@vagitron said:

Grossi is a moron.

Not gonna get much of an argument round here bout dat...

Now let's talk OL...   MG gonna hat trick BIg Ben... but no oiledriveing,

They know their offensive line isn't playing well. They won't protect rapistbooger very long, expect quick throws. The Browns

miss the playmaking of Owusu-Kamorah. and his speed and explosiveness.

They know they can't stop the Browns running game.

Watch for a flagrant violent unsportsmanlike conduct penalty on the squealers, especially if they are losing.
it's what they do when they have to win.

  dirtbag stinking cheapshot sombeitches.........

https://brownswire.usatoday.com/2021/10/30/steelers-offensive-line-struggles-are-real/

@calfoxwc said:

LOL. Najee is a very, very good running back. Big, fast, tough, durable. But it still depends on his offensive line.

Vag can dress as Pitts. 6th blocker ?

Non factor- Najee, still won't get to 68.5 yards rushing

https://brownswire.usatoday.com/2021/10/30/steelers-offensive-line-struggles-are-real/

@hoorta said:

And he's already got Najee Harris up on the level of Franco Harris.    

LOL. Najee is a very, very good running back. Big, fast, tough, durable. But it still depends on his offensive line.

Advantage: Browns rbs. He isn't an elusive runner, but a tough one. First game - vs Buffalo - Harris had 16 carries for 45 yards.

Against Denver - he had 23 carries for 122 yards and a td.  D'Ernest JOhnson had 22 carries and 146 yards, with Hance at RT, and Wills playing despite being questionable. Just interesting. Doesn't make Najee another Franco Harris, for goodness sakes.

Zombo said:

1. I want my quarterbacks arrogant.

2. Stef has huge balls.

3. I have no doubts he'll be sharp.

Z

If that’s his message he better show up and hit open WRs 

@sdbacker80 said:

This is the best offensive line in the league and the Steelers know that after the last meeting.

Good Luck to you

Watt is a GREAT player but it’s hard to do what you do best (rush the passer) when we are running 20 times in the 4th Quarter. 
 

Watt isn't the only one wrecking shop. Heyward has been unstoppable. However you aren't wrong. Our run d has to be better. 

Zombo said:

They sound like pussies.

QBs are always one hit from getting fucked up ... it's part of the game.

If he gets hit on the left shoulder again, and gets re-injured, then Case comes in and finishes off the win, and Bake goes back on watch.

It's not like a left shoulder injury will end his career. He says he's ready, Stef says he's ready, doctors say he's ready ... but some mamby pamby fans think "he's nuts". Oh well, just some more proving folks wrong for Bake.

Z

And Baker sounded borderline arrogant earlier.  Or you forget him Saying "I'll make the decision if I play or not." He backtracked on that- but I'll bet the ranch he's still thinking it. I doubt Stef will have the balls to pull him if he comes out and starts throwing passes into different area codes his receivers are located in against the Steelers. 

Then prove us cautious guys wrong Sunday Baker. We're pulling for you. 

@vagitron said:

Guess we are gonna find out. Heyward and watt lead the league in several rush categories. Good luck. 

This is the best offensive line in the league and the Steelers know that after the last meeting.

Good Luck to you

Watt is a GREAT player but it’s hard to do what you do best (rush the passer) when we are running 20 times in the 4th Quarter. 
 

Zombo said:

Oh you Mofos are so dramatic. 

Half crippled? Stef says he's essentially 100%

Z

Something Stef is obligated to say- when Baker told him... ""Full speed ahead, and damn the torpedoes!!"   

1) Z, I'll say this in all honesty. You'd have to be goddamn blind to not notice (and I'm far from a QB mechanics expert) that harness is seriously affecting on how he's able to throw the ball. Orlovski (former NFL QB) thinks differently? Whatever. Obviously compensating- because he sure as hell doesn't have normal range of motion in his left arm wearing that harness. 

From that article... "We don’t know exactly what will happen with Mayfield the rest of the season. He doesn’t know either. Mayfield is a competitor and wants to play; that is obvious." No shit. He can't "protect" himself from a blindside hit. AFAIK, Baker doesn't have eyes in the back of his head.  

2) In my Friday Evening wanderings I was able to have chats with some serious fans of other teams... Green Bay, Jets, and Bengals... Mif is a Bengals season ticket holder.  FWIW, they unanimously agree- Baker is fucking nuts for wanting to play on Sunday.  

https://www.brownsnation.com/nfl-insider-says-he-likes-what-he-sees-at-mayfields-practice/

@gumby73 said:

OL's you've played...Bills / LVR  / Cinn   / GB   / Den  / Sea....... Who's at the Browns level with Wills & Conklin back rested? GB? Bills?

D'ernest Johnson proved well in pass pro vs. Denver.. We're not seeing a huge Hunt loss here..

Bakes running legs are fine... If ya can catch him? Drop him softly   ... D.Ward not seeing J.Johnson nor Claypool is my real bother..Troy Hill & Greedy..huge factors   

Guess we are gonna find out. Heyward and watt lead the league in several rush categories. Good luck. 

@hoorta said:

Don't try telling that to Zombo. He's of the opinion a 1\2 crippled Mayfield is a better option than Keenum. The Browns may be smart, but MHO Mayfield is being pretty dumb wanting to get out there ASAP. There's several of us here who think Baker should sit this one out- and try to get as healthy as possible for the Bengals the following week.  

The Browns Fan Boys are ignoring (like Baker is) that the next shoulder dislocation will probably be the last one this year. Say HI to IR.     

His shoulder does not look good. Zombo is 100% wrong too. Keenum is a very solid backup. I'd say he's one of the best in the league. No way do I trot baker out there. No matter how good your line is right now they aren't likely to completely shutdown watt, Heyward and Highsmith as mentioned. I also agree that if he dislocates again he's probably shutdown for the season. 

Daniel Valente@StatsGuyDaniel

Baker’s shoulder looks like it’s one hit away from turning to dust. Tough QB but he’s got to be praying the Browns’ OL keeps Watt, Heyward, and Highsmith away from him.

Camryn Justice@camijustice#Browns Baker Mayfield back for his third straight day of practice. His left arm looked more comfortable today than it has in awhile.

Oct 29, 2021 79 4View on X

@nero said:

Seems like I will have to keep waiting if I want a half inteligent answer... 

You aren't going to get it from one of the big reasons the Poli-board is a cesspool of stupidity. 

@vagitron said:

I'm ready for any and all hits on baker to be labeled as dirty, let's just put that out there right now.

If the Browns were smart they would shut him down and get him healthy.   Bake Healthy? is 8 weeks or more.....65% of the league might* be healthy?

OL's you've played...Bills / LVR  / Cinn   / GB   / Den  / Sea....... Who's at the Browns level with Wills & Conklin back rested? GB? Bills?

D'ernest Johnson proved well in pass pro vs. Denver.. We're not seeing a huge Hunt loss here..

Bakes running legs are fine... If ya can catch him? Drop him softly   ... D.Ward not seeing J.Johnson nor Claypool is my real bother..Troy Hill & Greedy..huge factors   

@calfoxwc said:

Vag still thinks Troy Pollyfullapoopoo plays for his squealers defense this year.

And he's already got Najee Harris up on the level of Franco Harris.    

@vagitron said:

I'm ready for any and all hits on baker to be labeled as dirty, let's just put that out there right now.

you are still proud of this too? sick stuff.

@vagitron said:

His throwing motion is pretty noticibly off. I get it's steelers week but keenum is a capable backup. I saw some videos today of him at practice. What good is his arm if he dislocates his shoulder again? I'm ready for any and all hits on baker to be labeled as dirty, let's just put that out there right now. If the Browns were smart they would shut him down and get him healthy. I'd rather face hobbled Mayfield over healthy keenum. No bs. 

Don't try telling that to Zombo. He's of the opinion a 1\2 crippled Mayfield is a better option than Keenum. The Browns may be smart, but MHO Mayfield is being pretty dumb wanting to get out there ASAP. There's several of us here who think Baker should sit this one out- and try to get as healthy as possible for the Bengals the following week.  

The Browns Fan Boys are ignoring (like Baker is) that the next shoulder dislocation will probably be the last one this year. Say HI to IR.     

@gumby73 said:

His throwing motion is pretty noticibly off. I get it's steelers week but keenum is a capable backup. I saw some videos today of him at practice. What good is his arm if he dislocates his shoulder again? I'm ready for any and all hits on baker to be labeled as dirty, let's just put that out there right now. If the Browns were smart they would shut him down and get him healthy. I'd rather face hobbled Mayfield over healthy keenum. No bs. 

@hoorta said:

OMG- you are SO totally full of shit. Harris' best game was against the Broncos- and our 3rh stringer Johnson outgained him by 20 yards.  

In other words- he sucked- so we let him walk.  

Our offensive line was not good earlier in the year. It's still not great. You know this or at least should know this. I'd take Harris over chubb but I'm not implying it's by a mile. I AGAIN am not throwing shade at Chubb. 

Edit: Connor isn't sucking in Arizona. He couldn't stay healthy for the steelers. I'm glad it's working out for him in AZ. He's a classy dude. 

@vagitron said:

Did it hurt to share cnn articles? 

Yinz are new to being winners after being losers for so long, so it will take a while for you to adjust your attitude to a winner's attitude.  I never liked Big Ben when he was an asshole back when he set the all time Steelers QB record of getting banned from every bar and restaurant in PIT but he has matured and grown out of it.  I will always be a dick, but Ben? not so much anymore. 

Try to learn how to act like a winner.  Have a sense of quiet confidence.  Is yinz still a 10 point favorite without knowing who yinz's QB is yet? If so, then act like it.