@tiamat63 said:

I use Vegas insider for spot analysis I'm on the fence about.  But at the same time some of their picks can be real head scratchers that I've gone against with reasonable success. 

Last night they had WSH -1.5 and to take Wilson because of how Pete Carroll has done historically coming off of a multi loss stretch.    Seattle is a team trending down with serious injury concerns.  I get they're the professionals, but it feels at times a good deal of 5hese Vegas sharps can be a bit too "by the numbers" in that sense. 

Yes pretty much data, stats, schedules all in one spot.  The lines in this 24/7 computer age don't vary much...... have you ever checked out the line ticks practically by the minute ?

Tons of stats.

@mjp28 said:

On our little pickem tonight it's WAS (-1)  15-8-6 .    Ive got WAS there.

I see where the odds have moved to WAS +1½ and higher.  O/U is about 46½. I'm off there.

........edit, I've used VI  https://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/odds/las-vegas/?s=373. for many, many years now for quick easy FREE data, stats. 

I use Vegas insider for spot analysis I'm on the fence about.  But at the same time some of their picks can be real head scratchers that I've gone against with reasonable success. 

Last night they had WSH -1.5 and to take Wilson because of how Pete Carroll has done historically coming off of a multi loss stretch.    Seattle is a team trending down with serious injury concerns.  I get they're the professionals, but it feels at times a good deal of 5hese Vegas sharps can be a bit too "by the numbers" in that sense. 

@dutch-oven said:

We prefer the term "Fun Sized QB", please and thank you. ?

Yes, and here he is with his OL. 

@tiamat63 said:

If anyone is watching SEA v WSH - took the U47.5 and WSH +3  (bought .5 point)

On our little pickem tonight it's WAS (-1)  15-8-6 .    Ive got WAS there.

I see where the odds have moved to WAS +1½ and higher.  O/U is about 46½. I'm off there.

........edit, I've used VI  https://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/odds/las-vegas/?s=373. for many, many years now for quick easy FREE data, stats. 

@texasag1969 said:

And the monster from Arlington who had a great game wasted on the other pint sized QB from Texas..

We prefer the term "Fun Sized QB", please and thank you. ?

And sit back and relax for a while.

GO BROWNS,  well in two weeks.   

LAC +3 in Cincinnati  at 1 pm

Baltimore -3 in Pittsburgh  at  4:25 pm 

CLEVELAND off getting healthy and ready for WEEK 14 versus Baltimore and beyond.

NE +3  in cold Buffalo  on MNF. 

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

It's going to be an interesting finish....... the BROWNS' now have nothing to lose !

WK	DATE	OPPONENT	TIME	TV	TICKETS
13	BYE WEEK
14	Sun, Dec 12	vsBaltimore	1:00 PM	CBS	Tickets as low as $46 ...........AFCN
15	Sat, Dec 18	vsLas Vegas	4:30 PM	NFL NET	Tickets as low as $32 ......... Saturday
16	Sat, Dec 25	@Green Bay	4:30 PM	FOX NFL NET	Tickets as low as $103 .......... Saturday Christmas ? Day
17	Mon, Jan 3	@Pittsburgh	8:15 PM		Tickets as low as $81 ...........AFCN
18	Sun, Jan 9	vsCincinnati	1:00 PM	CBS	Tickets as low as $60 ............AFCN

@texasag1969 said:

And the monster from Arlington who had a great game wasted on the other pint sized QB from Texas..

You’re forgetting the game when the pint sized QB hung 41 points on the opposing team, but still lost.

Who’s fault was that? Was it the monster from Arlington?

@canton-dawg said:

If I recall correctly, you were pimping that pint sized party animal from Tejas named Johnny Football.

Of course we all know how he panned out. 

And the monster from Arlington who had a great game wasted on the other pint sized QB from Texas..

@texasag1969 said:

FIFY

If I recall correctly, you were pimping that pint sized party animal from Tejas named Johnny Football.

Of course we all know how he panned out. 

@nickers said:

Baker wasn't the only problem ass!

FIFY

@texasag1969 said:

And a brilliant plan to stuff the run and trust that the pint sized mediocre QB could not beat them.

EDIT: We can count on this kind of defensive strategy against the Browns' O from this point on.

Baker wasn't the problem ass!

@nickers said:

Scared coaching and WR's that couldnt catch a fucking cold if its life depended on it...

And a brilliant plan to stuff the run and trust that the pint sized mediocre QB could not beat them.

EDIT: We can count on this kind of defensive strategy against the Browns' O from this point on.

@bammer said:

Just what the fuck was that last night??

Scared coaching and WR's that couldnt catch a fucking cold if its life depended on it...

@nickers said:

Thanx for your negative input... Don't call us... We 'might' call you!

And somehow my realism proved clairvoyant. Go figure.? Hint 2 + 2 = 4 (Very good defense + no offense = Loss).

@texasag1969 said:

Somehow I would think he had enough sense to review that game and apply it with our D. ?

But.........................OSU lost, A&M lost, Mich won, Bama in a 4 OT win........................therefore...............................Browns lose on National TV to top a truly shitty weekend.?

It's been a weird week or so of football around here... last Saturday Ohio State played Michigan State, followed by the Browns playing the Detroit Lions, followed by Ohio State playing that other team up north coached by Jim Harbaugh yesterday, with the Browns playing the Ravens tonight coached by John Harbaugh. 

@texasag1969 said:

Somehow I would think he had enough sense to review that game and apply it with our D. ?

But.........................OSU lost, A&M lost, Mich won, Bama in a 4 OT win........................therefore...............................Browns lose on National TV to top a truly shitty weekend.?

Thanx for your negative input... Don't call us... We 'might' call you!

@nickers said:

Somehow I just don't think Woods is bright enough... He's total dumbfuck!

Somehow I would think he had enough sense to review that game and apply it with our D. ?

But.........................OSU lost, A&M lost, Mich won, Bama in a 4 OT win........................therefore...............................Browns lose on National TV to top a truly shitty weekend.?

@nickers said:

I would lend you more creedence than that _______...

HeY Now ! Can we keep Creedence out of this ?

No easy choice when you'd have to consider Classic song Titles of....

Fortunate Son/ Bad Moon Risen/ Have you seen the Rain?/ Heard it through the Grapevine/ Run through the Jungle ?‍️/ Who'll stop the Rain?/ Someday never Comes/ and..........................

Before you Accuse Me ?/

But here's a Old Classic...

several more weeks until Black Monday, when can'd-a-dates arise  ... we've live'd this routine..

Or---- we just blow up our opponents and win this Division 

stay tuned & Go Browns !  

@kvoethe said:

If my stupid ass can figure it out..so can woods.

I would lend you more creedence than that dipwad...

@nickers said:

Somehow I just don't think Woods is bright enough... He's total dumbfuck!

If my stupid ass can figure it out..so can woods.

come on man ! slow moving Clock's get Moss'd ?

It feels like these rematch games will never get here ...

I'm to hype video's 4 years back....

Speaking of 4.......... I'm seeing a in Steeler hot start for the Browns... Keeping a lead above 4, late into the 4th.. Let's keep __ ucker's heroics out of this...

I'll be ready at 1 PM !

*4 up ! -2 Out !