@westside-steve said:

And just for the record American Jews and Israelis are among the best educated hardest-working brightest and most successful people in the world and while they remember the Holocaust it doesn't seem that they use it as an excuse to underperform on the world stage.

As someone who is 1 percent Jewish, I demand reparations.

@mld-woody said:

Not engaging your constant need to call everyone you disagree with a Nazi, not enabling that, doesn't mean I "don't take the Holocaust seriously". You call liberals Nazis all of the time. Me ignoring that, or calling it out for the nonsense it is, doesn't mean I'm not taking the Holocaust seriously. 

Do you have any intention to apologize and take back what you said? Or are you going up in a ball of flames swinging like normal?

I can't speak for Cal but I've never assumed you are a holocaust denier. I do not like the Democrats new anti-israel position but that's kind of a different thing. On the other hand I have never heard you apologize for your constant accusations of racism white supremacy blah blah blah blah blah.

And just for the record American Jews and Israelis are among the best educated hardest-working brightest and most successful people in the world and while they remember the Holocaust it doesn't seem that they use it as an excuse to underperform on the world stage.

WSS 

Actually the only out-of-the-closet anti-semite we had here was your buddy cleve.

@calfoxwc said:

I'm no victim. and your past of ridiculing what other folks believe in is pretty obvious.

I/We can only go by your posts. If you ever took the Holocaust seriously, perhaps I missed it.

Perhaps we all did.

And I have never, ever been angry with you. I sneeze in your virtual direction.

If you want to be taken seriously, try being serious.

Not engaging your constant need to call everyone you disagree with a Nazi, not enabling that, doesn't mean I "don't take the Holocaust seriously". You call liberals Nazis all of the time. Me ignoring that, or calling it out for the nonsense it is, doesn't mean I'm not taking the Holocaust seriously. 

Do you have any intention to apologize and take back what you said? Or are you going up in a ball of flames swinging like normal?

I/We can only go by your posts. If you ever took the Holocaust seriously, perhaps I missed it.

Perhaps we all did.

And I have never, ever been angry with you. I sneeze in your virtual direction.

If you want to be taken seriously, try being serious.

@calfoxwc said:

nobody else ridicules nearly every legit concern or belief on this board like you do.

You smart off to people during a serious subject, you don't take that subject seriously - doesn't that make

sense? If you do take it seriously, why not a comment during the discussion saying so?

   Like I said, you apparently thrive on NOT believing. just sad.

This isn't anything like you getting your panties in a bunch when any post in a thread doesn't agree with you. And you're the guy flooding threads with woodpecker pictures when you're angry with me. It's weird and creepy. Completely unrelated threads I've posted in, and there you are. So for you to put up this victim card is fucking hilarious, pathetic, and predictable. It perfectly highlights your lack of self awareness. 

But, back to the point, none of that amounts to calling someone a Holocaust denier you stupid senile old man. Do you not understand? You may be no better than a 2nd grader throwing a tantrum but you're not throwing around recess insults. 

So don't play this victim card bullshit. Don't try to change the subject. None of that. 

You don't call other people Holocaust deniers dipshit. End of story. 

@mld-woody said:

Again, fuck off. You don't say other people are holocaust deniers. That's fucked up. Fuck you cal. 

nobody else ridicules nearly every legit concern or belief on this board like you do.

You smart off to people during a serious subject, you don't take that subject seriously - doesn't that make

sense? If you do take it seriously, why not a comment during the discussion saying so?

   Like I said, you apparently thrive on NOT believing. just sad.

@mld-woody said:

Again, fuck off. You don't say other people are holocaust deniers. That's fucked up. Fuck you cal. 

Price changed 2 cents Democrats declare victory!

@calfoxwc said:

I think I remember a long while ago, that the subject was the Holocaust, and still, you smarted off to someone who had make a legit comment. I took it as a denial - you do it so often. A deliberate diversion from addressing the subject. Your constant ignorant smartassness doesn't let people know what you actually do believe in.

   Apparently, you do actually believe the Holocaust happened, that is one feather in your nest. you ridicule pretty much anything and everything, it's not everybody else's fault that you are known as the forum's woodpecker.

  The friend from Germany was telling the truth. The German people went with grand speeches and rallied for great things. But, they found out too late that the nazi's goal was absolute, devastating power and control. I was simply paraphrasing what she told me in our conversation.

Again, fuck off. You don't say other people are holocaust deniers. That's fucked up. Fuck you cal. 

@mld-woody said:

When in the absolute fuck have I ever denied the Holocaust took place? That's a serious allegation. Don't ever claim I did any sort of thing you completely delusional piece of shit. Go fuck yourself. 

I think I remember a long while ago, that the subject was the Holocaust, and still, you smarted off to someone who had make a legit comment. I took it as a denial - you do it so often. A deliberate diversion from addressing the subject. Your constant ignorant smartassness doesn't let people know what you actually do believe in.

   Apparently, you do actually believe the Holocaust happened, that is one feather in your nest. you ridicule pretty much anything and everything, it's not everybody else's fault that you are known as the forum's woodpecker.

  The friend from Germany was telling the truth. The German people went with grand speeches and rallied for great things. But, they found out too late that the nazi's goal was absolute, devastating power and control. I was simply paraphrasing what she told me in our conversation.

@calfoxwc said:

You're a moron. I wasn't praising Germany, I was relating what the person from Germany told me. It was really interesting.Are you back to denying that the Holocaust took place ?

When in the absolute fuck have I ever denied the Holocaust took place? That's a serious allegation. 

Don't ever claim I did any sort of thing you completely delusional piece of shit. Go fuck yourself. 

@mld-woody said:

But Columbus was a hero, the Civil War was about state's rights, and we have no history of systemic racism...Maybe take your comments praising Germany and think how that might apply to your own country's history 

You're a moron. I wasn't praising Germany, I was relating what the person from Germany told me. It was really interesting.Are you back to denying that the Holocaust took place ?

@canton-dawg said:

Let’s not forget $3 billion so prisons can upgrade to high speed internet.

After all, watching porn on a dial up connection is just cruel and unusual punishment.

Or scamming credit card numbers

no bigger money sinkhole than rail ( brewsters trillions )

and bill nye is a knob

@westside-steve said:

we?  Not my claim. Like I said precious little documentation on any of this shit.

WSS 

Fair enough. You weren't in the group going on about this claim. 

@mld-woody said:

so we're making progress

we?  Not my claim. Like I said precious little documentation on any of this shit.

WSS 

@calfoxwc said:

Having posted that, over Thanksgiving, I ended up talking to our friends friend from Germany.

She explained that Germany is different - for instance, all 7th graders have to go learn about the Holocaust. See the pictures.

Know the history, to NEVER repeat anything like it.

But Columbus was a hero, the Civil War was about state's rights, and we have no history of systemic racism...

Maybe take your comments praising Germany and think how that might apply to your own country's history 

@westside-steve said:

 I couldn't find any actual specifics on that 1 particular number.  

so we're making progress

did

they talk about there lockdowns?

She explained that Germany is different - for instance, all 7th graders have to go learn about the Holocaust. See the pictures.

Know the history, to NEVER repeat anything like it.

She explained that Germans tend to not fly their country's flag on holidays. It's something like - they are ashamed of their history - and aren't wanting to look extremely oblivious to their past.

    She said they learn that so many people were going through tough times, they rallied and believed everything hitler promised.

He promised them just about everything. and some things he did - he did as promised...but far too late the German people found out that the good things he did , like putting 80% of the people back to work - would be a nightmare like the rest of the nazi occupation.

and "day care" - a promise that was really - a mass indoctrination program... to create a subculture of children into becoming nazis.

   The nazis only did things to help them accrue unlimited, devastating power. And still today, our military bases around Germany remind them of the price that had to be paid for them to get away from the hell they ended up in.

   Sadly, so many in America are doomed to support making the same mistake, all subsidized by $$$$$$$ oriented social media, and power hungry corrupt bureaucrats in our government that are out of control. But the dems roll in the money from global billionaires who want America to get out of their way to getting more and more and more power around the world.

and russia/china/nk/iran.... stoke the flames.

from what the dems say in their own site - isn't all that far from the nazis funding and giving uniforms to criminals in Germany back in the day.....and supporting the brownshirts.

glorifying smaller groups, and races, etc etc etc, gets them votes. With the prison system, they want those votes. because more and more, the polls indicate that the left's support is plummeting.

so they MUST make ballot harvesting legal and prevalent everywhere.

Then there is the prison system.

     More educational opportunities. get back all the rights after time served. Hasn't everyone heard "empty the jails" ? "shutdown the prisons" ?

  that is a lot of votes that could help them win future elections. OF course, add in giving the illegals votes, and there they go.

Look at the quotes. Poor illegals/criminals, poor prisoners. Give them a new start, new cars, education, internet, guaranteed wages,...

and the vote.

https://democrats.org/where-we-stand/party-platform/protecting-communities-and-building-trust-by-reforming-our-criminal-justice-system/

"Instead of making evidence-based investments in education, jobs, health care, and housing that are proven to keep communities safe and prevent crime from occurring in the first place, our system has criminalized poverty, overpoliced and underserved Black and Latino communities, and cut public services. Instead of offering the incarcerated the opportunity to turn their lives around, our prisons are overcrowded and continue to rely on inhumane methods of punishment. Instead of treating those who have served their time as full citizens upon their return to society, too many of our laws continue to punish the formerly incarcerated, erecting barriers to housing, employment, and voting rights for millions of Americans. "

So, the writing is on the wall. The left doesn't want it read as they intend to implement it.

" Democrats believe we must break the school-to-prison pipeline that too often relies on arrests and law enforcement to address misbehavior that ought to be handled and deescalated within the school. We support re-issuing federal guidance from the Department of Education and the Department of Justice to prevent the disparate disciplinary treatment of children of color and children with disabilities in school and educational settings. Democrats believe every school should have sufficient funding to employ guidance counselors, social workers, nurses, or school psychologists to help guarantee age-appropriate and racially equitable student disciplinary practices, rather than turning to police to resolve these issues. "

***********************************

   golly, they sure want to reach a LOT of future voters if they could just change everything.

Instead of rape, murder, etc etc etc etc by underage gang members, renegades etc being a crime....

it will be counseling and giving them all sorts of free stuff to entice them to vote democrat, I mean, not resort to crime.

   So, when they can find any bad policeman, any bad lawyer or judge, the entire system is an excuse

to get more votes.

@mld-woody said:

"the bill gives $3B to prisons for high speed internet!"

Where does it say that?

"Find it yourself! Do your own research!"

Look, if you guys don't have any source and you're just believe whatever you hear you can just admit that ...

 I couldn't find any actual specifics on that 1 particular number.   Frankly even in articles by the sunshine poppers I didn't see any specifics.

 I wouldn't be surprised if somewhere within the billions of dollars earmarked for Internet, prisons wouldn't be a part of that but I don't know. I would imagine that giving free Internet like they have in Japan  would be quite a blow to the companies who earn their living by selling it. Not that the Biden administration seems to give fuck number one about people who earn money but still….

 (As an aside I don't really trust government to spend wisely. Allegory:  Your kid actually does need a new car so you give the kid a credit card. Kid comes home with a car after having paid 5 times the sticker price explaining that they  hired a few school kids to write a research paper on the car, paid a friend a  thousand  bucks to drive them to  the most expensive car lot  in the state and the salesman talk them in to $5000 clear code and rust proofing.. Then they took it to their buddy's stereo shop and had him install at $8000 music system. Then there are other friends body shop for a custom color paint job.  Et cetera et cetera)

WSS

Where does it say that?

"Find it yourself! Do your own research!"

Look, if you guys don't have any source and you're just believe whatever you hear you can just admit that ...

if you had done research, then you wouldn't have had to ask the question, woodpecker.

You do it a lot. Trying to make yourself look superior to every and anybody else.

You're a moron birdbrain.