Would Kevin Stefanski's, season ending play calling ranking fall above Pat Shurmur's ? 

@browns-fan-1977 said:

The Raid UHS game was the worse play calling there was.

Packers game was about the worse for myself... Use Chubb to run us between the 30's... poof! Run gone.. Chubb gone to sidelines..

I much prefer a fresh start every season...the exciting chatter...the speculation...having the same coach every year with the same results is just boring...bring in a new guy!!

I also want that famous Browns qb jersey with 25 names to hit 50

Also, I’m curious to know how many times the empty backfield Stefanski insisted on running at random awkward times in games actually worked this year? You have one of the best run games in the league, a patchwork OL, an injured QB, average WR’s and NICHOLAS FUCKING CHUBB and you run empty backfield??? l feel like they were putting these games on Baker to see if he was “the guy”, instead of  playing to the strengths of our football team. 
 
 

I guess when you have a coach who was basically like a brain dead coma patient in  Hue Jackson, it's easy to fall in love with a guy like Stefanski.

@neo said:

The conservative playcalling when we have the lead is also cringe worthy and has shades of the same old Browns crap we have witnessed for many years. 

That's odd considering that this team didn't have leads for many years.  Ya know, because we were awful?

@hx214 said:

Meh.  OBJ has Cupp doing all the heavy lifting while he plays second fiddle and eats the scraps.  He was suppose to be WR1 here.

I'm past Beckham. WR and RT should be areas of focus in the draft. I say RT because nobody knows if Conklin will ever be back or if he'll be the same player if he does.

@orion said:

Nah, we don't want the reigning coach of the year.  Let's get Hue Jackson back.  Or one of the other idiots we've had this century.  Jeezuz, Joseph and Mary!!

That's not what he said and he has some very valid points. Just look at all the costly penalties we've been getting the past few games, that's ALL COACHING. The conservative playcalling when we have the lead is also cringe worthy and has shades of the same old Browns crap we have witnessed for many years. Stefanski has issues and needs to get it sorted out before our season slips away. I am not one of those people who are miserable after a win like someone has suggested, just being real and don't want to see our season go down the drain.The Browns have very little room for error from here on out. 

@hoorta said:

FYI, that guy we couldn't run out of town fast enough had six catches on seven targets for 70+ yards  and a TD tonight.   

Meh.  OBJ has Cupp doing all the heavy lifting while he plays second fiddle and eats the scraps.  He was suppose to be WR1 here.

@hoorta said:

Plenty..  Just stop with our WRs are sub standard mantra, it's getting really old. 

FYI, that guy we couldn't run out of town fast enough had six catches on seven targets for 70+ yards  and a TD tonight.   

yet:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/browns-poor-return-on-investment-at-wide-receiver-impossible-to-ignore-after-loss-to-steelers/ar-AAQav7y

Browns Poor Return on Investment at Wide Receiver Impossible to Ignore After Loss to Steelers

Browns takeaways: Jekyll and Hyde act threatening to kill ...

https://news.yahoo.com › browns-takeaways-jekyll-hyde-act-104027568.html

Browns wide receivers have least productive game in five years. Whether the Browns laying an egg can be attributed to the players being emotionally drained after wide receiver Odell Beckham Jr. forced his way out of Cleveland and the team rallied to play lights out against the Bengals is impossible to know for sure.

***************************************************************

   BTW, do you know who their top receiver is, Hoorta? TE ANDREWS.

Guess what?

 

Their top three wide receivers were 1st round draft picks ! That is Brown, Bateman and Watkins ! and their top receiver is ANDREWS.

 

@hoorta said:

Plenty..  Just stop with our WRs are sub standard mantra, it's getting really old. 

FYI, that guy we couldn't run out of town fast enough had six catches on seven targets for 70+ yards  and a TD tonight.   

yet, he was "injured" for weeks with the Browns, then all of a sudden he was "healed" with the rams? right.

Meanwhile......................

********************************************************************

Jersey number reportedly was an issue in OBJ to Rams ...

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com › 2021 › 11 › 14 › number-issues-reportedly-slowed-deal-for-obj-to-rams

Nov 14, 2021Jersey number reportedly was an issue in OBJ to Rams. Of all the various factors that Odell Beckham Jr. had to consider this week in picking his next team, an apparently important one became a ...

Troy Aikman Thinks Odell Beckham Jr. is Already Causing ...

https://www.thebiglead.com › posts › troy-aikman-odell-beckham-jr-rams-stafford-01fmmtjfmg9a

Troy Aikman Thinks Odell Beckham Jr. is Already Causing Problems For Rams. By Liam McKeone. Nov 16, 2021. Los Angeles Rams v San Francisco 49ers / Lachlan Cunningham/GettyImages. Last night, the ...

Plaschke: Rams adding Odell Beckham Jr. is a bad idea ...

https://www.latimes.com › sports › rams › story › 2021-11-11 › rams-adding-divisive-underproductive-odell-beckham-jr-is-a-bad-idea

Rams. Stockpiling for Super Bowl run, Rams add marquee receiver Odell Beckham Jr. The Rams added to their already deep receiving corps by making a one-year deal with free agent wide receiver Odell ...

A view from LA: Adding divisive, underproductive Odell ...

https://chippewa.com › sports › football › professional › a-view-from-la-adding-divisive-underproductive-odell-beckham-jr-a-bad-idea-for-rams › article_8f816599-ca45-574f-99fe-87ffa6e97384.html

The Rams didn't need OBJ. Photos: Packers' 2021 season in pictures Check out photo galleries from every game of 2021 from the preseason through the end of the regular season and the playoffs.

@hoorta said:

Plenty..  Just stop with our WRs are sub standard mantra, it's getting really old. 

FYI, that guy we couldn't run out of town fast enough had six catches on seven targets for 70+ yards  and a TD tonight.   

Whippy fizz... He's still a kunt...

@calfoxwc said:

I wonder how many qb's in the NFL would love to have the wr group the Browns have...instead of their own......

Plenty..  Just stop with our WRs are sub standard mantra, it's getting really old. 

FYI, that guy we couldn't run out of town fast enough had six catches on seven targets for 70+ yards  and a TD tonight.   

@atom said:

we have been outscored 105-52 in the 4th quarter and 170-103 in the second half and have only scored  7 points combined  in the last 8 4th quarters

IIRC, that's dead last in the league.  

@sdbacker80 said:

Throwing to Kareem and Chubb out of the backfield and a veteran like Jarvis Landry…and this TE group…you could certainly do worse.  DPJ doesn’t look bad toe tapping either.

What else does he need? 

granted, except the wr group only Landry and Peoples-Jones have made any significant impact.

Higgins - nope. Schwartz, nope. Switzer (IR)- nope. that's it. There is LawrenceCager, the big guy, nope. I think he was an UDFA, must be on the practice squad?

@calfoxwc said:

I wonder how many qb's in the NFL would love to have the wr group the Browns have...instead of their own......

Throwing to Kareem and Chubb out of the backfield and a veteran like Jarvis Landry…and this TE group…you could certainly do worse.  DPJ doesn’t look bad toe tapping either.

What else does he need? 

@sdbacker80 said:

It absolutely is.

Yet Baker holds the ball and doesn’t have the confidence (it seems) to push the ball downfield.
 

and There are 31 starting QBs in the league that would love to have the time he has to stare down his first read.  

I wonder how many qb's in the NFL would love to have the wr group the Browns have...instead of their own......

@nickers said:

That pick looked to me like a communication misread by both the passer and intended WR..

Yep.  Ball was deliberately thrown for an inside turn.  Receiver made an outside turn.  Who screwed up??   Baker gets the INT.  Team gives up the ball.  But the D held it to a 3 point wound. 

@sdbacker80 said:

It absolutely is.

Yet Baker holds the ball and doesn’t have the confidence (it seems) to push the ball downfield.
 

and There are 31 starting QBs in the league that would love to have the time he has to stare down his first read.  

we have been outscored 105-52 in the 4th quarter and 170-103 in the second half and have only scored  7 points combined  in the last 8 4th quarters

@atom said:

in bakers presser he said that we got conservative in the 2nd half and the game never should have been that close

so was that a shot across the bow at Stefanski ?

It absolutely is.

Yet Baker holds the ball and doesn’t have the confidence (it seems) to push the ball downfield.
 

and There are 31 starting QBs in the league that would love to have the time he has to stare down his first read.  

@atom said:

in bakers presser he said that we got conservative in the 2nd half and the game never should have been that close

so was that a shot across the bow at Stefanski ?

Yep.

so was that a shot across the bow at Stefanski ?