<![CDATA[Denzel Ward the next Deion? No. Why not take Baker first and Josh Allen at 4. No franchise QB in 30 years!]]> No way you don't solidify the QB position after decades of garbage.  Two picks in the top 4 and you don't land a franchise QB.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/topic/63666/denzel-ward-the-next-deion-no.-why-not-take-baker-first-and-josh-allen-at-4.-no-franchise-qb-in-30-yearsRSS for NodeFri, 02 Oct 2026 19:56:27 GMTSat, 22 Jan 2022 05:08:12 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to Denzel Ward the next Deion? No. Why not take Baker first and Josh Allen at 4. No franchise QB in 30 years! on Wed, 26 Jan 2022 03:02:59 GMT]]> JaMarcus couldn't run.  He just played in a high profile conference and got hot at the right time.  Same as Baker.  Allen was a diamond in the rough.  Oozing potential.

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@skippinturtles said:

Josh Allen and Baker would have had a RG3-Kirk Cousins battle.  Allen's potential vs. a 5'10" DB in Ward.  Even if Allen busted, so what.  They can find a DB similar to Ward next year.  Allen had elite skills in the right system.  QB's don't grow on trees.  Anyone can run.

Allen couldn’t consistently put the ball where it needed to be against Mountain West competition where maybe San Diego State plays defense everyone else not so much.

Knowing what they knew at the time…I don’t blame them for not picking Josh Allen.

Big and could throw the ball a mile…sounds like Jamarcus Russell 

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@texasag1969 said:

Minus a CB.

C j Henderson  2020 first round pick acquired in Josh Allen trade.

I gotta give this regime more credit 

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@skippinturtles said:

Taking 2 QB's in the top 4 picks when you haven't had one since Otto Graham creates competition.  Bad QB=franchise failure.

So I'm confused, help me. 

The title of this thread refers to no franchise QB in 30 years, yet you mention now "since Otto Graham." 

Sipe & Kosar did well. Jury is still out on Mayfield. 

Did Tony Grossi just join the Browns Board? 

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/1032512https://brownsboard.com/post/1032512Tue, 25 Jan 2022 18:30:27 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Denzel Ward the next Deion? No. Why not take Baker first and Josh Allen at 4. No franchise QB in 30 years! on Tue, 25 Jan 2022 16:40:15 GMT]]> Josh Allen and Baker would have had a RG3-Kirk Cousins battle.  Allen's potential vs. a 5'10" DB in Ward.  Even if Allen busted, so what.  They can find a DB similar to Ward next year.  Allen had elite skills in the right system.  QB's don't grow on trees.  Anyone can run.

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@hx214 said:

Well, Josh Allen's first two seasons pretty much blew. 

So they would have seen Baker play and Josh play, most likely would have traded off Josh and they would be in the same situation they are now.... so...

Minus a CB.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/1032496https://brownsboard.com/post/1032496Tue, 25 Jan 2022 14:29:07 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Denzel Ward the next Deion? No. Why not take Baker first and Josh Allen at 4. No franchise QB in 30 years! on Tue, 25 Jan 2022 13:56:03 GMT]]> Well, Josh Allen's first two seasons pretty much blew. 

So they would have seen Baker play and Josh play, most likely would have traded off Josh and they would be in the same situation they are now.... so...

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/1032493https://brownsboard.com/post/1032493Tue, 25 Jan 2022 13:56:03 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Denzel Ward the next Deion? No. Why not take Baker first and Josh Allen at 4. No franchise QB in 30 years! on Tue, 25 Jan 2022 05:32:07 GMT]]> Taking 2 QB's in the top 4 picks when you haven't had one since Otto Graham creates competition.  Bad QB=franchise failure.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/1032474https://brownsboard.com/post/1032474Tue, 25 Jan 2022 05:32:07 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Denzel Ward the next Deion? No. Why not take Baker first and Josh Allen at 4. No franchise QB in 30 years! on Tue, 25 Jan 2022 05:27:09 GMT]]> Josh Allen> Baker, D.Ward.  Roll the dice on a throwaway pick.  You had the first pick.  Create competition at THE position of need in all of sports.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/1032473https://brownsboard.com/post/1032473Tue, 25 Jan 2022 05:27:09 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Denzel Ward the next Deion? No. Why not take Baker first and Josh Allen at 4. No franchise QB in 30 years! on Tue, 25 Jan 2022 01:35:19 GMT]]>

@pat-mahomo said:

Pat Mahomes > Myles Garrett

Reggie Camp > Todd Blackledge

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/1032461https://brownsboard.com/post/1032461Tue, 25 Jan 2022 01:35:19 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Denzel Ward the next Deion? No. Why not take Baker first and Josh Allen at 4. No franchise QB in 30 years! on Tue, 25 Jan 2022 01:09:20 GMT]]> Pat Mahomes > Myles Garrett

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/1032460https://brownsboard.com/post/1032460Tue, 25 Jan 2022 01:09:20 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Denzel Ward the next Deion? No. Why not take Baker first and Josh Allen at 4. No franchise QB in 30 years! on Sat, 22 Jan 2022 11:37:54 GMT]]> By the time you read this thread again, the liquor will have worn off.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/1032139https://brownsboard.com/post/1032139Sat, 22 Jan 2022 11:37:54 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Denzel Ward the next Deion? No. Why not take Baker first and Josh Allen at 4. No franchise QB in 30 years! on Sat, 22 Jan 2022 05:13:41 GMT]]> Hindsight my ass.

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