@axe said:

@mld-woody said:

You said "even take the first step towards them being standard"

Pipe Down

@mld-woody said:

Better not take any steps then

Is that what he implied? This is how you get yourself into trouble.

What I got out of his statement was that more steps need to be taken before making the electric car the standard. But you chose the snarky route.

@mld-woody said:

You're right, it currently won't work for you so we better not bother with it

Sigh. There you go again.

@the-cysko-kid said:

Speaking of a strawman how about this?

"We don't to have the technology or Infrastructure in place for electric cars to be standard"

"Well I guess we'll just give up forever then!"

You said "even take the first step towards them being standard"

@hammertime said:

@westside-steve said:

This is the new cash cow.  Global warming crap isn’t enough anymore.

People need to step out of that bubble and join the human race.

@westside-steve said:

@mld-woody said:

The strawman is someone here saying "it's time to give up on fossil fuels"

Yes, going cold turkey is a bad idea. You win that argument, but no one is making that point. 

Maybe I took your first post too strongly, but it sounded pretty anti EV. Ultimately, it is the direction we should go and need to go. I believe we shouldn't leave that transition up to the "free" market either. We may just disagree in how strongly we should push towards that future. 

"We don't to have the technology or Infrastructure in place for electric cars to be standard"

"Well I guess we'll just give up forever then!"

@mld-woody said:

Thanks internet tough guy. From telling everyone how muscular you are. To telling everyone how much money you make.

Congrats. I'm sure you do well for yourself.

As for me, to use your words, you don't know what you don't know....

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@axe said:

Congrats?? Are you fucking kidding??

Do you hear yourself??

You have no clue do you..

Once again grasshopper.. You don't know what you don't know..

Thanks internet tough guy. From telling everyone how muscular you are. To telling everyone how much money you make.

Congrats. I'm sure you do well for yourself.

As for me, to use your words, you don't know what you don't know....

@mld-woody said:

That would be a lot of taxes, but if so, congrats. 

Congrats?? Are you fucking kidding??

Do you hear yourself??

You have no clue do you..

Once again grasshopper.. You don't know what you don't know..

@axe said:

I'm pretty sure I will pay more in taxes this 2021 yr than you will make..

That would be a lot of taxes, but if so, congrats. 

@mld-woody said:

Yep. Too bad we have to spend as much on defense spending as the next 9 countries combined. And too bad we can't tax the extremely wealthy any more or our entire economy would collapse. Otherwise we could maybe progress with some of these ideas 

I'm pretty sure I will pay more in taxes this 2021 yr than you will make..

But tell me again about your perceived injustices..

@axe said:

This..

They are supposedly working on a concept of charging lanes as you drive on our interstates but given the present condition of our state and interstate infrastructures who sees this happening in our lifetimes?

Yep. Too bad we have to spend as much on defense spending as the next 9 countries combined. And too bad we can't tax the extremely wealthy any more or our entire economy would collapse. Otherwise we could maybe progress with some of these ideas 

@the-cysko-kid said:

What, pray tell, was the strawman here? If you reread my first post which you seemed to take issue with you will see that I didn't say "fuck electric cars". In theory I like electric cars. In practice though we are not set up for immediate adoption, or even quick adoption. Also until they can get those mileage numbers up there's going to be a whole lot of people that won't work for. 

The strawman is someone here saying "it's time to give up on fossil fuels"

Yes, going cold turkey is a bad idea. You win that argument, but no one is making that point. 

Maybe I took your first post too strongly, but it sounded pretty anti EV. Ultimately, it is the direction we should go and need to go. I believe we shouldn't leave that transition up to the "free" market either. We may just disagree in how strongly we should push towards that future. 

@mld-woody said:

I believe you've confused what the strawman is in this case 

And I think you've confused one of the biggest reasons that electric vehicles aren't anywhere near viable at this point. Maybe that's intentional.

WSS 

@the-cysko-kid said:

Do you even live in America? We have vast rural tracts it's not one big city. Our public transportation is hot garbage. They'd need to put up millions of charging stations before a 10th of people could realistically depend on electric vehicles. No one's in here saying they should not work on the technology and infrastructure for the future but please, for the love of god, spare me the"it's time to give up on fossil fuels" nonsense. 

This..

They are supposedly working on a concept of charging lanes as you drive on our interstates but given the present condition of our state and interstate infrastructures who sees this happening in our lifetimes?

@mld-woody said:

I believe you've confused what the strawman is in this case 

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This illustrates what I've tried to tell you all along..

You don't know, what you don't know.

Let me help you out.. Biden is the Strawman.. Tho Kerry is a very close second..

Yer welcome..

@mld-woody said:

I believe you've confused what the strawman is in this case 

John is the walrus.