@kvoethe said:

Christ...it is like we are turning into Cincy.

Didn't they get rid of all their criminals?

The only left with a tainted past is Mixon I believe.

@d-bone said:

It's possible.

Lol...or was it your reply that went over mine? .

Or maybe you were not aware of this derogatory name for the Browns which I fuckin hate.

OK, Ill be point blank. 

@gorka said:

 AB along with Watson and Hunt, can't imagine what name for the Browns the haters will come up with next. This team is stained.

Oh wait, they won't need to.

The Stains.

@neo said:

The way I see it, it you live on planet earth, you're probably guilty of something. Funny thing is that all the people criticizing these athletes have skeletons in their own closet. It's just sports........... 

Right it's just sports. Sports that create instant millionaires .. who now they think they're entitled to do whatever the fuck they please.

Did you ever realize that in most cases these "chosen ones" troubles start after they become members of the rich elite? Big Ben is a primary example.

I don't fault the average Joe with skeletons in his closet for expecting those earning millions to play a game to be held at a higher standard.

@gorka said:

I have a strong suspicion that my comment went over your head?

It's possible.

@d-bone said:

Umm, it's called the NFL. 

I have a strong suspicion that my comment went over your head?

@mjp28 said:

Yes the ben-gals or Cincinnati chili-dogs or perennial AFCN cellar dwellers have stunned the football world ?  by driving their team and fans all the way to SB 56.

Better than the favored BROWNS or Ravens or even Steelers to the top, sure surprised me  !

Now for Act II, no automatic wins x 6 for the AFCN teams now.  Can they pull it off again  ?

Bengals seriously upgraded their glaring weakness their 0-line.  don't bet against them to repeat.  

@mjp28 said:

But does character matter anymore in professional sports

The way I see it, it you live on planet earth, you're probably guilty of something. Funny thing is that all the people criticizing these athletes have skeletons in their own closet. It's just sports........... 

@neo said:

As long as these players do what they are paid to do then I don't care who they bring in. As long as they are on the field and produce according to the player they are I am willing to give players like Watson a chance. I know one thing, we have Watson and the Steelers have Trubisky. Things will definitely be interesting this fall.

You've got that right about winning covers up a lot of things like heavy makeup.  

But does character matter anymore in professional sports    -or-   even collegiate sports or for that matter Olympic sports which used to be the pinnacle of character in sports and civic pride.

Or is it all just something to bet on with your computer and cell phones ?  Even college athletes can get paid now and Olympic athletes can have a nice payday after the gamesareover.....if they're good and popular enough. 

Sports in the 21st century. 

@kvoethe said:

I was thinking of several years ago..the burfict years etc.

Yes the ben-gals or Cincinnati chili-dogs or perennial AFCN cellar dwellers have stunned the football world ?  by driving their team and fans all the way to SB 56.

Better than the favored BROWNS or Ravens or even Steelers to the top, sure surprised me  !

Now for Act II, no automatic wins x 6 for the AFCN teams now.  Can they pull it off again  ?

@mjp28 said:

So far Cincinnati has turned out to be a an exciting team with their young quarterback.......unlike Cleveland. 

Just comparing apples ? to apples ?. 

And Mayfield doesn't exactly have the quarterback hungry NFL ringing his or Cleveland's phone.   Just sayin'.  Surprised  ?  I am a bit.

So far Cleveland has a high priced quarterback with baggage,  he better produce on the field if and when he gets there.  Just sayin ' again. 

I think that there is just a bit of apprehension in the air among BROWNS fans. 

GO BROWNS,  we are hoping all turns out fan-tastic this fall, we always do !

I was thinking of several years ago..the burfict years etc.

@mjp28 said:

And Mayfield doesn't exactly have the quarterback hungry NFL ringing his or Cleveland's phone.   Just sayin'.  Surprised  ?  I am a bit.

As am I. I thought there would be a couple of teams that viewed our ex-starter as their savior much like Wentz, but man, I was so wrong. It's kind of embarrassing - to me at least, how other teams view our former franchise QB. 

@kvoethe said:

Christ...it is like we are turning into Cincy.

So far Cincinnati has turned out to be a an exciting team with their young quarterback.......unlike Cleveland. 

Just comparing apples ? to apples ?. 

And Mayfield doesn't exactly have the quarterback hungry NFL ringing his or Cleveland's phone.   Just sayin'.  Surprised  ?  I am a bit.

So far Cleveland has a high priced quarterback with baggage,  he better produce on the field if and when he gets there.  Just sayin ' again. 

I think that there is just a bit of apprehension in the air among BROWNS fans. 

GO BROWNS,  we are hoping all turns out fan-tastic this fall, we always do !

@gorka said:

 AB along with Watson and Hunt, can't imagine what name for the Browns the haters will come up with next. This team is stained.

Oh wait, they won't need to.

Umm, it's called the NFL. 

Oh wait, they won't need to.

@icecube said:

With his sexual assault history, he'll fit right in. Bring in all the dirty, dirty foul mother f----s.

We have one problem child in Watson.. I hardly want AB on the roster too.. Wonder if he's falling behind on those mortgage payments on the palace he's living in...  

@kvoethe said:

Christ...it is like we are turning into Cincy.

Without the Super Bowl appearances...

@icecube said:

With his sexual assault history, he'll fit right in. Bring in all the dirty, dirty foul mother f----s.

Christ...it is like we are turning into Cincy.

@orion said:

Thanks for responding...but do me a favor, don't bother responding to anything I type again.  Deal?  Good!

Definitely a waste of time on my part...

@lodilobo said:

Yeah...that dumbass, Baker is responsible for everything wrong here. Let's blame him for the move to Baltimore, the Drive the Fumble, Hell...I'll bet he's the one who made Lebron leave twice.

Thanks for responding...but do me a favor, don't bother responding to anything I type again.  Deal?  Good!

@orion said:

...but is he thinking that the situation in Cleveland just got better because Baker will be out of the picture?   That's the root of my thought...

Yeah...that dumbass, Baker is responsible for everything wrong here. Let's blame him for the move to Baltimore, the Drive the Fumble, Hell...I'll bet he's the one who made Lebron leave twice.

@mjp28 said:

Amazing how that works the rich do indeed get richer.....players want to go to a winners IF they have the opportunity. 

I was reading a long article on NFL news the other day and not ONE mention of the BROWNS  not even Mayfield,   how about that  !

Well of course... The Rams are the NFL's flagship team they want to cram down everyone's asshole

@mjp28 said:

Amazing how that works the rich do indeed get richer.....players want to go to a winners IF they have the opportunity. 

I was reading a long article on NFL news the other day and not ONE mention of the BROWNS  not even Mayfield,   how about that  !

but you did see the odd's after the trade went from +4000 to +1600 to go to the super bowl and are also the odd's on favorite to win the North