@fairhooker11 said:

I did a dive into the post (from 2019) of OBF's last ones I think...

and yes you were not in there, neither was CCCp 

I think its interesting how one can pick out writing styles of insults and vitriol from past postards who have been banned

or "reinvented" themselves that come back here and spew their s*#t?

sorry  the point was lost on you though  

OBF was a good guy. As far as I can tell closer to my idea of what a Christian would be than anyone else on the board.

WSS

@neo said:

I think your Alzheimer's may be acting up because I have no clue what you're talking about. Please elaborate or post a quote. 

I did a dive into the post (from 2019) of OBF's last ones I think...

and yes you were not in there, neither was CCCp 

I think its interesting how one can pick out writing styles of insults and vitriol from past postards who have been banned

or "reinvented" themselves that come back here and spew their s*#t?

sorry  the point was lost on you though  

@neo said:

That's what I mean, there is no brand. Not say for an example "60's classic car garage" that some person started and a bunch of people with 60's cars joined and they help each other with their builds, or hold car shows for that specific generation of cars. Do you know how many times I go to car shows and I pass by a group of people talking about some political bullshit. There is a time and place for that, not at a car show, it ruins the whole thing for me. I just want to connect with people and I don't care about thier beliefs. Here, it's just the idea we could all get along because of one common thing, the Cleveland Browns. And the political non-sense does spill over. 

I'm just trying to give another perspective and some people don't want to hear it.

Okay I get where you are going. I was on a board for a long long time, actually a Yahoo mailing list, that was dedicated to the Roland series of digital recording systems. Of course it also branched out into other areas of Music related equipment etc. But it seems like the main topic of conversation eventually became politics, Bush Cheney Rumsfeld Iraq Etc. Being a group of musicians most of the posters were between left and hard left. It wound up falling apart but mostly because the last version of that Roland system, the 2480 was discontinued without a possibility of upgrade a long long time ago. The original AOL Sports board we used to post on where most of us old guys met had a fairly strict moderator. (booyankees)  Members would get warned have posts deleted for infractions such as posting what kind of Game Day recipes they liked. The moderator I replaced here was a guy named Mr T who was further to the right than anybody here and freely passed out warning points suspensions deletions bans etc. We also had some very intelligent left Wingers. It was actually fun to spar with them.

But again this page is the political page and I think everybody left and right pretty much sticks to politics. No surprises. And it's definitely the second most read Forum of all of them here.

And yes there are some forums I stop by on occasion that are very strictly regulated to the operation of whatever recording software they cover. Which is great because the reason to go there is to have somebody more experienced figure out what's going on with whatever you're doing. They have kind of replaced customer service.

WSS

@neo said:

Doesn't matter anymore. Our society is fucked and I'm just going to sit back and watch it burn. 

I can say one thing I'll be 72 this month and have been interested in politics my whole life.  And I  used to be active in politics for a few decades but I've never seen it this bad.

I'm hoping somehow we can get both sides to stop this nasty bitter fighting and get back to running this fine democracy......not ruin it.

It will be up to the 20 and 30 somethings to get involved and make a good difference.   I'm so glad that my wife and I are retired,  good luck to you young people now.

And VOTE it matters, get involved with your local politics it's where it starts

@mjp28 said:

You kind of lost me a bit on your 60s car show and political chit-chat mixed in.

Doesn't matter anymore. Our society is fucked and I'm just going to sit back and watch it burn. 

@neo said:

? coming from the biggest bunch of cry babies the world has ever known. Conservatives. ??

Now, now liberals can be crybabies too.  

@neo said:

That's what I mean, there is no brand. Not say for an example "60's classic car garage" that some person started and a bunch of people with 60's cars joined and they help each other with their builds, or hold car shows for that specific generation of cars. Do you know how many times I go to car shows and I pass by a group of people talking about some political bullshit. There is a time and place for that, not at a car show, it ruins the whole thing for me. I just want to connect with people and I don't care about thier beliefs. Here, it's just the idea we could all get along because of one common thing, the Cleveland Browns. And the political non-sense does spill over. 

I'm just trying to give another perspective and some people don't want to hear it.

You kind of lost me a bit on your 60s car show and political chit-chat mixed in.  We happen to be in a very involved and sometimes intense political atmospheric now. Just like here I don't mind a little cross talk on subjects as long as it doesn't get really out of hand as we have discussed before.   When that happens here, for example, we have our set of rules or whatever that can step in and say "cool it"......if necessary. 

One more thing  for those who believe in free speech and 1st Ammendment and all of that it does not necessarily apply here !    That's right this is a private forum with our own set of rules and regulations  -or-  simply put  our do's and don'ts.  (and I use bold type just for emphasis, its just my style....like it or not  )  same for using the little faces or memes or cartoons it's what people do online to get a point across.

And private forums like Twitter and Facebook and other similar online sites have the same rules and regulations.

And these points are a mix of rules of the road and "JMO"  of course.  Ok....l  I'm off the soapbox now. (No applause please, lol,)

@fairhooker11 said:

tender sensabilities

? coming from the biggest bunch of cry babies the world has ever known. Conservatives. ??

@fairhooker11 said:

I think it was you and CCCp and another who ganged up on OldBrowns fan for his Christianity (who BTW held his faith and defended it with dignity)

I think your Alzheimer's may be acting up because I have no clue what you're talking about. Please elaborate or post a quote. 

@neo said:

That's what I mean, there is no brand. Not say for an example "60's classic car garage" that some person started and a bunch of people with 60's cars joined and they help each other with their builds, or hold car shows for that specific generation of cars. Do you know how many times I go to car shows and I pass by a group of people talking about some political bullshit. There is a time and place for that, not at a car show, it ruins the whole thing for me. I just want to connect with people and I don't care about thier beliefs. Here, it's just the idea we could all get along because of one common thing, the Cleveland Browns. And the political non-sense does spill over. 

I'm just trying to give another perspective and some people don't want to hear it.

I think everyone here knows when the vitriol gets heavy

I think it was you and CCCp and another who ganged up on OldBrowns fan for his Christianity (who BTW held his faith and defended it with dignity)

so spare us the sanctimonious BS and quit crying about the "poli board" as some evil domain that violates your tender sensabilities

You heard (read) WSS - dont like it? and like DH said LEAVE

@mjp28 said:

The Cleveland freakin Guardians.....oh God it kills me to even type that. 

You meant "Tardians"... There!.. I FIFY!

@westside-steve said:

I'm not positive what particular brand you think I am or should be pushing

That's what I mean, there is no brand. Not say for an example "60's classic car garage" that some person started and a bunch of people with 60's cars joined and they help each other with their builds, or hold car shows for that specific generation of cars. Do you know how many times I go to car shows and I pass by a group of people talking about some political bullshit. There is a time and place for that, not at a car show, it ruins the whole thing for me. I just want to connect with people and I don't care about thier beliefs. Here, it's just the idea we could all get along because of one common thing, the Cleveland Browns. And the political non-sense does spill over. 

I'm just trying to give another perspective and some people don't want to hear it.

@neo said:

JMO, If your trying to push a brand or an idea, politics is BAD for the brand. Not really pushing a brand here but the idea that all people from all walks of life can gather to talk about football. All the groups that I am a part of on facebook ban you without fucking around if you start bringing in politics, race, religion, etc. They are some of the best groups with really tight communities that just want to help each other.

I'm not positive what particular brand you think I am or should be pushing. I'm not being a contrarian I just don't know if you mean the Cleveland Browns or my own personal brad as an entertainer. But I think I probably agree with you. On Facebook my focus is just to chat with people I know and promote upcoming shows and records and things like that. I almost never talk politics and when I do it's in the blandest of terms. Many if not most of the dozens of entertainers I count among my friends talk very harshly and frequently about politics, most from the hard left, for what it's worth. I have been on a number of forums but politics seems to creep into all of them. For the guys that don't like it this particular page is included.

WSS

@canton-dawg said:

Ghoulardians! 

You guys missed a fantastic game tonight,  the Ghoulardians beat MIN again to take the series,  increase their lead in the ALC and Kwan had a WEB GEM HR STEALING  catch in the 8th.   UP 6-0  in the 9th won 6-4....GO see the TRIBE FORUM.   There guys are amazing. 

@vambo said:

Cool It With Da Boom Booms

Hey there....oh wait we're on the poli pit.....that's allowed.    

@canton-dawg said:

Ghoulardians! 

Cool It With Da Boom Booms

@axe said:

Who the fuck are the Guardians?

Go tribe.

The Cleveland freakin Guardians.....oh God it kills me to even type that. 

@neo said:

Steve made a post and highlighted a problem. I respond with an opinion and it highlighted another problem, I get attacked for simply speaking my mind. Your opinion isn't valued here unless you play for the right team.  Which is why I kind of laughed to myself when I read the original post in this garbage thread?

I do understand and basically agree with you.  I still see a use for this after hours bar as long as it doesn't get too devisive and out-in-out mean.....or nobody gets shot or stabbed.   Computer bravado is tolerated to a point  that's my main idea here.

And we should be careful that it doesn't become a lightning rod for weirdos and deep right or left wingers come just to hear themselves BLAB over and over.  You must   be a Browns fan or at least an interest in being here. (Steelers fan to debate football,  etc.)

That again is up to administration to delete those undesirables and send them to hell.....or back to wherever they came from.   Moderators can keep an eye out for and delete repeat offenders.    Easy, huh ?

@mjp28 said:

Hey Guardians 6 Twins 0 bottom 7 .....oh shit that doesn't belong here.   

Who the fuck are the Guardians?

Go tribe.

@mjp28 said:

Ah, and we're back to the poli board

Steve made a post and highlighted a problem. I respond with an opinion and it highlighted another problem, I get attacked for simply speaking my mind. Your opinion isn't valued here unless you play for the right team.  Which is why I kind of laughed to myself when I read the original post in this garbage thread?

As long as there are some reasonable guidelines so it doesn't get way, too way obscene,  vulgar,  whatever as determined by the administration.   The moderators job is then to help carryout the rules of the road....not to rewrite anything. 

This is how most all FORUMS and groups that ive been on over the last 20+ years have run.  Especially the successful ones.

Did I put anyone to sleep yet ?   .     mjp.