@dutch-oven said:

Phil Dawson went 8-12 his rookie season (1999).

Of his ten field goal attempts between 30-49 yards, he only made six. He attempted no 50+yard kicks.

this ^^

and the Bagels, higher drafted kicker Evan McPherson was far better in his 2nd season.. lets see how far/where Cade's kicks travel in the cold ️ 

@ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:

In the beginning I thought they kicked with the inside of their foot. I still really don't get it.

I believe they kick with the inside part of the top of the foot, closer to the beginning of the big finger (idk its name). 

Kicking with the top of the foot means you can accompany better the movement of the ball upwards, while kicking with the inside adds accuracy, and allows you to kick with your body sideways thus using your hips full range of motion, which is the key difference. When you kick with straight hips you are using almost exclusively your leg. Football kicking lets you use not only your hip but also the back and the rest of the body to create inertia. 

I'm no expert, but I hope I could explain the phenomenon. 

Of his ten field goal attempts between 30-49 yards, he only made six. He attempted no 50+yard kicks.

@ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:

Larry, it is indeed amazing. I still to this day do not understand how a soccer style kick is done. 

As a Spaniard, I find this interesting, since it is a common technique here. 

But don't you ask me to throw a baseball or a football, I have no freaking clue

@ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:

He needs to be "coached" as to how to kick a fucking field goal? Ah yes, I can hear that conversation now. "Ah, try.to kick the ball between those yellow thingys."

True, but there's some technique to do so. Damn, you just made me take a crash refresher course in high school geometry.  @ 54 yards away those 18.5' wide goal posts substend an angle of about 6.5 degrees. It doesn't take much to miss at that distance.  

FWIW, York wasn't drafted just for his accuracy in college, he also has a cannon leg. That missed field goal had 60+ yard distance. It wasn't so long ago kicks from that far out were in NFL record range. 

MHO? Kickers are getting too good. Get to the 40 and you're now in field goal range. LOL, can't move the goalposts back any farther, they may have to start shrinking them down to area ball width.

@ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:

He needs to be "coached" as to how to kick a fucking field goal? Ah yes, I can hear that conversation now. "Ah, try.to kick the ball between those yellow thingys."

"How To Pinch A Loaf" For dummies:

I remember hearing Pat McAfee, who was a kicker in College and punter/holder in the pros, giving his opinion on wind etc to Vinatieri whenever he had to kick for the Colts. 

@dutch-oven said:

How many special teams coaches are ex-kickers? 

Good question, so I looked it up.

I only saw 2 former place kickers listed as special team assistant.

Tampa Bay has Chris Boniol & LA Chargers has Chris Gould.

@mddawg said:

I would put his missed 54 yarder to coaching, distance wasn't the issue. After missing the 48 yarder Pfeiffer should've advised him how to correct it in case he kicked from that side of the field again.

Here's a secret to special teams:

Special teams coaches know a lot regarding the entirety of special teams, with the exception of kicking the football.

Most kickers in the NFL get next to no instruction on how to kick field goals from their special teams coaches. How many special teams coaches are ex-kickers? 

@orion said:

Yeah, but 30 something yarders are a lot easier than 40's and 50's gumby.  

Yeah!... might be the reason why I posted what I did 

We also gave them 3 points by going for a long developing, stunting run play instead of a QB sneak or power dive on 4th down from our 30ish.

We do have the looks of having a Pro Bowl Punter ?(hike!)

what had happened was?

Cade York missed from 45 & 54 yards away..

A LAC walk on kicker to PS Thursday, goes 3 for 3 from 25/27/28 yards away

small details matter in a 2 point game

@neo said:

I'll just leave this here.

there was a article with york and he said cheers can easily turn to  boo's if you miss a kick  The dumb ass jinxed himself

@neo said:

But can we agree that until he makes a pressure kick at home in those swirling winds we shouldn't get too ahead of ourselves? First Energy is probably one of the hardest places to kick.

I'll just leave this here.

@unsympathetic said:

Until proven otherwise, everything on facebook is fatuous posturing masquerading as cogent commentary

But can we agree that until he makes a pressure kick at home in those swirling winds we shouldn't get too ahead of ourselves? First Energy is probably one of the hardest places to kick.

@neo said:

I read posts on facebook and people seem to think he is already a Browns legend

Don't worry.  They'll want the January 6th mob to hang him once he misses a couple.

@hoorta said:

LOL!!! Let's not get ahead of ourselves folks.  Too early to put Cade in the HOF after one game.    Keep it up guy. I've heard he's listening to and absorbing what Phil Dawson is telling him about kicking in bad weather..  

That will be interesting to see, how he deals with a sloppy field and swirling winds on the lakefront in November and December. 

@korsou-dawg said:

Had to be done. We are only one game in, and I just love this kid to death. I also expect to feel the need to express that more often.

Game winner aside, did anyone else hear the commentary team say he put one of the kick-offs between the uprights? It was following one of our TDs, I think. The kid was literally practicing long field goals in-game. How friggin alpha can a kicker get?!

An elite kicker is so complementary to a defense and running-oriented team like the Browns too. If coach 'Fancy' Stefanski keeps his urges under control, especially on fourth down, Cade could be one of our leading scorers this year. 

Yes.  He changed the football wood factor in Cleveland from balsa to sequoia.

@orion said:

On The Fan this morning they were saying that he struggled in the morning warmups.  But he came though with a great performance!  It's a bit early in his career to anoint him...but it doesn't get more pressure packed than your first NFL regular season game....with 13 seconds left...down by 1...and you've gotta kick a 58 yarder.  (and an NFL record maker 'to boot')  -  When that thing first took off it looked like it was gonna miss to the right, but he drew that 3-wood right down the middle of the fairway.  Way to go Yorkie!

LOL!!! Let's not get ahead of ourselves folks.  Too early to put Cade in the HOF after one game.    Keep it up guy. I've heard he's listening to and absorbing what Phil Dawson is telling him about kicking in bad weather..