@syd said:

you know something gumby I think were gonna win on sunday but then you have to bring in the numbers and players (sigh sad but true) has schwartz only been thrown to like a hand full of times this season ? and why is he still even on the team ?

Winning the division is the only way I see us getting into it now.. Hope your right..W

imo, Schwartz could have gone to PS weeks ago. Berry's phone would have never rang..Rookie WR's Woods/Bell saw snaps with Schwartz last week..  The Schwart's has 1 catch for 19 yards on 6 targets including 4 drops of the 6... We've sat Felton 3 games watching this guy do nothing

@canton-dawg said:

Because it would mean Berry fucked up by drafting him.

He has too big of an ego to ever to admit to it.

combine that, along with Berry's roster player age limitations..?

@canton-dawg said:

Because it would mean Berry fucked up by drafting him.

He has too big of an ego to ever to admit to it.

while i agree that you need to give draft picks time to develop so that they can contribute to your team  they really just do not use him at all and it's time to open up a roster spot for someone else

@syd said:

 and why is he still even on the team ?

Because it would mean Berry fucked up by drafting him.

He has too big of an ego to ever to admit to it.

@gumby73 said:

can't even get to game day without somebody confused   

Andrew Berry won't take my calls ?(hold please) maybe Syd should try from a Washington area code

this anal lick it play call sheet ain't winning games & JJ3 needs some veteran defensive help..

Here's what the Ravens do, in under a month ..

Signed free agent OLB Jason Pierre-Paul

Signed free agent ILB A.J. Klein off the Giants' practice squad.

Designated OLB David Ojabo for return from the Non-Football Injury (NFI) list.

Signed WR DeSean Jackson ...      (yeah! I can't wait to watch more of Stonehand's Schwartz ? )

you know something gumby I think were gonna win on sunday but then you have to bring in the numbers and players (sigh sad but true) has schwartz only been thrown to like a hand full of times this season ? and why is he still even on the team ?

@syd said:

it's not very nice of you to confuse some people here with numbers

can't even get to game day without somebody confused   

Andrew Berry won't take my calls ?(hold please) maybe Syd should try from a Washington area code

this anal lick it play call sheet ain't winning games & JJ3 needs some veteran defensive help..

Here's what the Ravens do, in under a month ..

Signed free agent OLB Jason Pierre-Paul

Signed free agent ILB A.J. Klein off the Giants' practice squad.

Designated OLB David Ojabo for return from the Non-Football Injury (NFI) list.

Signed WR DeSean Jackson ...      (yeah! I can't wait to watch more of Stonehand's Schwartz ? )

@gumby73 said:

continuing to question Andrew Berry's 2022 upgraded roster moves .. 

Your QB spending will go up next season..

and, Ya might want to think about lower your RB & OL expenses?

While adding to your weak as$ middle of your defense... 28th ranked WR group ? 

https://247sports.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/LongFormArticle/Four-Lessons-For-Cleveland-Browns-GM-Andrew-Berry-195339470/#195339470_1

it's not very nice of you to confuse some people here with numbers

@mjp28 said:

Nice chart and   OL 16.97%  QB 7.28 % =  24.25 %  and the   DL 12.71%  DBs 10.97% = 23.94%.  So all the rest are les,  kind of puts some things in perspective. 

A total of  48.19%  of the team's 5 groups (1.67% to 6.09% each) cap is right there in roughly even amounts. 

Now back to the Guardians game in Cleveland, Ohio.  Another close game.   ?

Another fantastic finish- depending on your POV of course.    

A total of  48.19%  of the team's 5 groups (1.67% to 6.09% each) cap is right there in roughly even amounts. 

Now back to the Guardians game in Cleveland, Ohio.  Another close game.   ?

Your QB spending will go up next season..

and, Ya might want to think about lower your RB & OL expenses?

While adding to your weak as$ middle of your defense... 28th ranked WR group ? 

https://247sports.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/LongFormArticle/Four-Lessons-For-Cleveland-Browns-GM-Andrew-Berry-195339470/#195339470_1

@calfoxwc said:

Accurate and fair enough. Analysis is easier - you can adopt other experts' analyses.

     Mock drafts are very, very tough - near impossible to do. Experts are lucky to get a few correct, unless it's a #1 pick and you follow leads in the media and from the team.

   Doing mock drafts is hard if someone is afraid to be wrong. I just have fun with it.

I'd rather take a look at the 10 or so players the Browns might actually draft in the first round, instead of looking at marginal prospects. You're right even the draft "experts" like Daniel Jeremiah and the others just rate players, then start guessing. 

Can't remember exactly, but I believe they had an open contest a few years back for a million bucks if for anyone to exactly predict just the first round of the draft- and there wasn't a winner.     

@hoorta said:

I'll help you along... I have never done a mock draft, it's a waste of my time (and I don't have the time) trying to do a deep dive on prospects who might get drafted on day three. But I've frequently done a thumbs up thumbs down analysis on the very top prospects. Go look up my pre draft comments about Brady Quinn, Johnny Football, and Deshone Kiser- among others. 

And your hero Josh Allen?  My scouting report... Can throw the ball in the air a reported 90+ yards, also can't hit the broadside of a barn at 20 yards 1\2 of the time... Pass...  He's one of the very rare quarterback birds (like maybe one out of 100) who has managed to fix his accuracy issues in the pros.  BTW, one of the reasons I liked Baker pre draft, he was extremely accurate on his long throws. 

Accurate and fair enough. Analysis is easier - you can adopt other experts' analyses.

     Mock drafts are very, very tough - near impossible to do. Experts are lucky to get a few correct, unless it's a #1 pick and you follow leads in the media and from the team.

   Doing mock drafts is hard if someone is afraid to be wrong. I just have fun with it.

@hoorta said:

Hehe... who says you have to ride on roads? I try to avoid it whenever possible...  We're blessed here in SW Ohio with the longest off road trail network in the country. 8\10th of a mile on a residential street, and I'm on it.     I can ride to Cincinnati or Columbus from Dayton and it's less than a mile on city streets.  https://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/2022/04/americas-largest-paved-bike-trail-network-miami-valley-trails-is-in-southwest-ohio.html

Oh, over the course of a few years, I completed the 300+ Mile Ohio (River) to (Lake) Erie trail.  90%+ of it is paved trail, and the parts that aren't are zero traffic Amish Hill Country.  Because it's already there, the Great American Rail-Trail (East Coast to West Coast) is using almost all of it through Ohio. 

PS- imitating RAGBRAI the week long ride across Iowa, put your wheel in the Ohio and then Lake Erie when you finish. I now know why MTB guys use SPD cleats, and not my SPD-L cleats. Seems like getting wet sand in them at Edgewater Beach on the lakeshore is the equivalent of super gluing your cleats to the pedals.  Yeah, I took a zero mph crash there...   

^ Loved that link!! It's so cool to see areas embrace cycling and actually put money towards it. If you watched the 2nd video I posted, I ended up on the CA Aqueduct and we can ride it 37 miles, point-to-point, one way. It's a mix of asphalt and dirt and most people use a road or gravel bike. 

It's a cool thing for us to have for people who don't want to ride trails like I ride, but also don't want to ride on the road with autos piloted by morons. I have a few MTB buddies that do both and they make a whole day out of the 74 miles.

Maybe one day I'll borrow a gravel bike and see what it's like. 

@d-bone said:

It's so funny because roadies think we MTBers are crazy, but we think you are for riding on the road with all of the idiot texting drivers! 

One thing is for sure though, bikes will prolong our lives and give us a fighting shot at having a great final phase...... Keep on pedaling brother!! ?

What the hell, here's one more. It's my favorite trail and a glimpse of where I've spent all 54yrs of my life (it's much steeper than it looks on GoPro)...

Hehe... who says you have to ride on roads? I try to avoid it whenever possible...  We're blessed here in SW Ohio with the longest off road trail network in the country. 8\10th of a mile on a residential street, and I'm on it.     I can ride to Cincinnati or Columbus from Dayton and it's less than a mile on city streets.  https://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/2022/04/americas-largest-paved-bike-trail-network-miami-valley-trails-is-in-southwest-ohio.html

Oh, over the course of a few years, I completed the 300+ Mile Ohio (River) to (Lake) Erie trail.  90%+ of it is paved trail, and the parts that aren't are zero traffic Amish Hill Country.  Because it's already there, the Great American Rail-Trail (East Coast to West Coast) is using almost all of it through Ohio. 

PS- imitating RAGBRAI the week long ride across Iowa, put your wheel in the Ohio and then Lake Erie when you finish. I now know why MTB guys use SPD cleats, and not my SPD-L cleats. Seems like getting wet sand in them at Edgewater Beach on the lakeshore is the equivalent of super gluing your cleats to the pedals.  Yeah, I took a zero mph crash there...   

@hoorta said:

As a long term street cyclist--  You're NUTS!!!!    At my age, staying out of hospital emergency rooms is one of my high priorities when I hop on my bike.  

I ride the Towpath from Canal Fulton either north as far as Akron or south to Massillon (It is shut down in Massillon due to an Army Corps project) and I tell you what, my least favorite part of the ride is the mile to and from the Towpath on the streets of town. I don't like riding with traffic at all. 

@hoorta said:

As a long term street cyclist--  You're NUTS!!!!    At my age, staying out of hospital emergency rooms is one of my high priorities when I hop on my bike.  

It's so funny because roadies think we MTBers are crazy, but we think you are for riding on the road with all of the idiot texting drivers! 

One thing is for sure though, bikes will prolong our lives and give us a fighting shot at having a great final phase...... Keep on pedaling brother!! ?

What the hell, here's one more. It's my favorite trail and a glimpse of where I've spent all 54yrs of my life (it's much steeper than it looks on GoPro)...

@d-bone said:

My 1st POV of what I do during most Browns games these days (yes, it is gratuitous and nope, I don't care) 

As a long term street cyclist--  You're NUTS!!!!    At my age, staying out of hospital emergency rooms is one of my high priorities when I hop on my bike.  

@calfoxwc said:

Well, my inquiring mind went and searched to see if you ever did a mock draft... got 0 results. I don't remember you doing a mock draft - maybe in 2018? I'd like to see it. Can't find it. Can't find a first round prediction...but I'm no experte' at searching. I would welcome you gracious assistance in this matter.

I'll help you along... I have never done a mock draft, it's a waste of my time (and I don't have the time) trying to do a deep dive on prospects who might get drafted on day three. But I've frequently done a thumbs up thumbs down analysis on the very top prospects. Go look up my pre draft comments about Brady Quinn, Johnny Football, and Deshone Kiser- among others. 

And your hero Josh Allen?  My scouting report... Can throw the ball in the air a reported 90+ yards, also can't hit the broadside of a barn at 20 yards 1\2 of the time... Pass...  He's one of the very rare quarterback birds (like maybe one out of 100) who has managed to fix his accuracy issues in the pros.  BTW, one of the reasons I liked Baker pre draft, he was extremely accurate on his long throws. 

@flugel said:

This isn't aimed at you personally - it's just an ideal spot to vent.  Maybe you're onto something above.  Many of the key players that are giving this team a lead/chance to win - weren't drafted by this FO such as Nick Chubb, Joel Bitonio, Wyatt Teller, Kareem Hunt.   Other guys that are supposed to be important/significant this year like Myles Garrett, Denzel Ward and David Njoku (per new contract right?) were drafted by a previous FO.  

When you have to turn to veteran FAs - they cost more to your cap than drafting the right guys you develop as keepers.  Obviously at QB I have to come to grips with this franchise just can't draft the right QB; and keep the staff and FO around that drafted him long enough to see it past inevitable growing pains.  If it weren't for the lone exception to the rule with Bernie Kosar via Supplemental Draft in the mid 80s - how many decades do you suppose we go back in support of what I just said?    

So, this year the answer to all our problems is now a suspended QB that our Owner didn't want to draft or have his 2017 FO/staff waste any time researching.  Then in 2022, Haslam whips out the press conference statement that he and his organization have never done a better job of researching a QB more thorough than he did with Watson this year?  Are ya kidding me Jimmy?   The last time Watson played on a mismanaged team like Haslam has THIS YEAR - he had one of his best years statistically while his team went 4-12.  What was the excuse?  Crappy Coach, Owner and FO.  Hmmmmm...  Is this REALLY the place Watson wanted to be at or is it the only place that wanted Watson?  Watson has 1 playoff win playing for an owner and FO like this one regardless of how well he played.  

We only have 6 games left with the backup QB filling in on an offense that has been scoring about 28 points per week.  Let's hope Watson really is the answer to the cumulative effect of bad ownership and musical chairs with Head Coaches, Coaching Staffs and Front Offices.  I hope it's finally this simple.  I'm running out decades here so please excuse my patience level with it all.  

great post!!! Going to rattle off some things quickly as I’m traveling

This Current FO has done well in spots.

Ethan Pocic.

James Hudson (appears to be a solid pick)

Martin Emmerson - early returns very solid 

DPJ a sixth rounder!!!

Greg Newsome the right pick 

Nick Harris Day 3 pick good enough to start at Center. 

Amari Cooper for a 5th!!!

You swing and miss but you need some hits and certainly enough provided here. 

We can’t pick a QB to save our lives but the owner and FO did what they could to bring one here. 

@canton-dawg said:

I’m not impressed with the job AB and his scouting department has done during his tenure in Berea.

When you have to scour the waiver wire and raid other teams practice squads for a position of need, it’s an indictment of your draft prowess….or lack thereof.

Remember back in the old days... We had Al "Bubba" Baker, Big Daddy (Carl Hairston). Veteran leadership that the younger guys leaned on to... Today we have shit and a woke driven franchise... That cares more about Diversity and Inclusion than actually running a Football driven program based on talent rather than numbers...

@flugel said:

When you have to turn to veteran FAs - they cost more to your cap than drafting the right guys you develop as keepers.

I’m not impressed with the job AB and his scouting department has done during his tenure in Berea.

When you have to scour the waiver wire and raid other teams practice squads for a position of need, it’s an indictment of your draft prowess….or lack thereof.

@sdbacker80 said:

The draft capital we gave up to get Watson is the same haul it would take to move up (maybe more) for Stroud or Young.  And before anyone says we were are headed for top 5 in the draft we are a few moronic brain farts on and off the field away from being 5-0. 
 

And I’d love to bat 1.000 with draft selections the choices we made are the same stupid choices other revered franchises make/miss out on

This isn't aimed at you personally - it's just an ideal spot to vent.  Maybe you're onto something above.  Many of the key players that are giving this team a lead/chance to win - weren't drafted by this FO such as Nick Chubb, Joel Bitonio, Wyatt Teller, Kareem Hunt.   Other guys that are supposed to be important/significant this year like Myles Garrett, Denzel Ward and David Njoku (per new contract right?) were drafted by a previous FO.  

When you have to turn to veteran FAs - they cost more to your cap than drafting the right guys you develop as keepers.  Obviously at QB I have to come to grips with this franchise just can't draft the right QB; and keep the staff and FO around that drafted him long enough to see it past inevitable growing pains.  If it weren't for the lone exception to the rule with Bernie Kosar via Supplemental Draft in the mid 80s - how many decades do you suppose we go back in support of what I just said?    

So, this year the answer to all our problems is now a suspended QB that our Owner didn't want to draft or have his 2017 FO/staff waste any time researching.  Then in 2022, Haslam whips out the press conference statement that he and his organization have never done a better job of researching a QB more thorough than he did with Watson this year?  Are ya kidding me Jimmy?   The last time Watson played on a mismanaged team like Haslam has THIS YEAR - he had one of his best years statistically while his team went 4-12.  What was the excuse?  Crappy Coach, Owner and FO.  Hmmmmm...  Is this REALLY the place Watson wanted to be at or is it the only place that wanted Watson?  Watson has 1 playoff win playing for an owner and FO like this one regardless of how well he played.  

We only have 6 games left with the backup QB filling in on an offense that has been scoring about 28 points per week.  Let's hope Watson really is the answer to the cumulative effect of bad ownership and musical chairs with Head Coaches, Coaching Staffs and Front Offices.  I hope it's finally this simple.  I'm running out decades here so please excuse my patience level with it all.  

@calfoxwc said:

Well, my inquiring mind went and searched to see if you ever did a mock draft... got 0 results. I don't remember you doing a mock draft - maybe in 2018? I'd like to see it. Can't find it. Can't find a first round prediction...but I'm no experte' at searching. I would welcome you gracious assistance in this matter.

My inquiring mind came up with a few hits regarding you saying that "it's going to be fun down in Carolina this year with Baker!" on here. How has THAT worked out for you?

Perhaps bringing up predictions is something you shouldn't be doing. 

@hoorta said:

FWIW, I don't have to continually remind the Board how many times I've been correct on my draft picks, so give it a rest already. 

Well, my inquiring mind went and searched to see if you ever did a mock draft... got 0 results. I don't remember you doing a mock draft - maybe in 2018? I'd like to see it. Can't find it. Can't find a first round prediction...but I'm no experte' at searching. I would welcome you gracious assistance in this matter.