@flugel said:

This getting lighter/leaner LBs idea would be fine - if our FO gave the DTs/IDL in front of them

exactly why jok didnt look at his best this year

@hish747 said:

Exactly. I don't know how we chose FatBoy as head coach over Williams. Oh wait, I know how...we let a child run the team.

Well said. Unfortunately, a lot of what our owner decides isn't much different than the criteria some of our wives used picking teams to win in the weekly football pool based on how their uniforms looked.  For example, if analytics works extremely well for some teams in a completely different professional sport (MLB) - Jimmy's all over it like a Great Dane on a fire hydrant.    This getting lighter/leaner LBs idea would be fine - if our FO gave the DTs/IDL in front of them a much bigger priority than they have.  Today, we have 4 LBers on IR because this team is getting what the FO was willing to pay for on the IDL. 

@nickers said:

Do you always have to be an ass?... It just seems to come natural you and Dutch.. I think you two should have a non-binary relationship

well it was back handed

and nice reply so witty

@nickers said:

Shitpantski just doesn't come across as a guy I want to slam my body into the wall for. Shitpantski comes of more as a funeral director. Where Gregg Williams inspires guys with his father figure, evangelical presence and street mentality.. A guy I could easily respect...

It is kind of weird how he's just out of the league now. People said his act wears thin in the locker room, plus Bountygate. 

When he replaced Hue, all of a sudden there were basically no more stupid pre snap penalties, and the team had toughness & discipline. It didn't sound like he was ever given a shot at the Browns' permanent head coaching job.

He goes to the NY Jets, single covers the Raiders on a game winning bomb....poof, he's out of the NFL. 

@ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:

As you suggested different players will have different motivations. Sadly, even when "motivated" this team has a lot of lackadaisical mental committment.

This group has never struck me as having a savage, killer instinct to begin with so while there will be some players who give it their all, I think a damaging proportion of players will indeed be complacent.

The stupid thing and also the cool thing about sports/football, is emotion. The most complacent player can in an instant be triggered by something like a dirty hit, or making a big play and getting pumped up by the crowd, so you never know what will happen.

ShitMyPantski is not a leader or motivator. My bet is they come out ready to play but if they get behind a couple scores, then they will cash put for the year.

Shitpantski just doesn't come across as a guy I want to slam my body into the wall for. Shitpantski comes off more as a funeral director. Where Gregg Williams inspires guys with his father figure, evangelical presence and street mentality.. A guy I could easily respect...

@nickers said:

Do you always have to be an ass?... It just seems to come natural you and Dutch.. I think you two should have a non-binary relationship

You are a nearly 60 year old man living with your mom.

Perhaps you of all people shouldn't be telling people how to live.

@syd said:

seemed sorta back handed of nickers But hey what to  do  expect from him

Do you always have to be an ass?... It just seems to come natural you and Dutch.. I think you two should have a non-binary relationship

@mjp28 said:

Right on Pops !?  Well I guess that just might fly when you're 70+.  But my brain doesn't act 70+ at least 50% of the time.  

seemed sorta back handed of nickers But hey what to  do  expect from him

@korsou-dawg said:

Fully agree on the coaching, but while your argument about DW is plausible in theory, last game showed something quite different. I saw him putting himself in harms way, diving head-first past the sticks more than once. Doing anything and everything to get first downs and scores, more so than most others on the team. Looked highly motivated to me. 

Yeah... By the same token... I don't want him to be Kyler Murray/Lamar Jackson stupid...

@nickers said:

At this point?.. It really does not matter... I mean if they could win out.. They could still sneak in but , highly unlikely... As far as anyone impressing anyone... I find the coaching unimpressive so why would these athletes care?... I mean hell Watson alone has $230,000,000 reasons not to care...

Fully agree on the coaching, but while your argument about DW is plausible in theory, last game showed something quite different. I saw him putting himself in harms way, diving head-first past the sticks more than once. Doing anything and everything to get first downs and scores, more so than most others on the team. Looked highly motivated to me. 

@bob806 said:

Glad to see somebody else does this lol.

I find myself watching YouTube highlights of Browns yesteryear a lot. Love watching the games from the 70s when I was a kid. 

26 teams. Seemed every team had a QB & a defense. 

Until expansion and parody came along and diluted the talent pool...

@dutch-oven said:

Lets go back to happier Browns days...

On this date in 1947 the Browns won their second AAFC Championship, besting the New York Yankees (yes, that was their name) 14-3.

Glad to see somebody else does this lol.

I find myself watching YouTube highlights of Browns yesteryear a lot. Love watching the games from the 70s when I was a kid. 

26 teams. Seemed every team had a QB & a defense. 

On this date in 1947 the Browns won their second AAFC Championship, besting the New York Yankees (yes, that was their name) 14-3.

@nickers said:

Right on Pops!

Right on Pops !?  Well I guess that just might fly when you're 70+.  But my brain doesn't act 70+ at least 50% of the time.  

@syd said:

just another shoulda woulda coulda type of year

x3 or 4 ?  Oh yeah the oh so close Cleveland BROWNS v2022.   

@mjp28 said:

Just think about all those early close winnable games ..... geeezzz.

just another shoulda woulda coulda type of year

@nickers said:

I wonder what Daltons record against the Browns is...

Answer: 12-5...

I'll give the edge to him and Landry...

different team there skippy and  of course as per normal any chance you get to slam the Browns you will 

you suck dude

dammit.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/browns-place-lb-jeremiah-owusu-koramoah-on-injured-reserve/ar-AA15eOkX

@mjp28 said:

Yes I figured the 1 loss between vs NO and probably at WAS.   But that's why they play the game(s) !   Hey win out and go 9-8.  

Just think about all those early close winnable games ..... geeezzz.

Right on Pops!

@nickers said:

The Commanders aren't an easy out either and Andy Dalton is 12-5 against the Browns...

Yes I figured the 1 loss between vs NO and probably at WAS.   But that's why they play the game(s) !   Hey win out and go 9-8.  

Just think about all those early close winnable games ..... geeezzz.

@mjp28 said:

Well I had Cincinnati winning the division but this might be difficult:

1. Browns record? (8-9)  9-7-1 ......     but why not, they finish 3-1 and go  8-9.   

The Commanders aren't an easy out either and Andy Dalton is 12-5 against the Browns...