Good luck young man!

@syd said:

denver got  fleeced 

I hope the Browns didn’t get fleeced.

@dutch-oven said:

Sweet 8lb, 6oz baby Jesus, Russell Wilson has gone off the cliff without even attempting to pump the breaks. 

denver got  fleeced 

@bob806 said:

That's fine IF they address their flaws/look in the mirror.

If they're so smart they'll revisit philosophy/game plans, adjust and turn it around.

If they remain stubborn,well they chop their own heads off.

If they go into training camp with a new DC and special teams coach, and a significant overhaul on the DLine, I might feel a little more optimistic that they were able to assess their weaknesses. 

As of today, I believe the latter. 

@mjp28 said:

Definitely a keeper !  #24 the best since the original BROWNS  #32, the best  of all time.   

Growing up, Earnest Byner was my favorite player.

I feel like Nick Chubb is ALL OF OUR favorite player. I also have the home brown Chubb jersey too. 

@dutch-oven said:

Look what Santa left for me!

It's been another disappointing Browns season, but at least we have Nick Chubb. 

Definitely a keeper !  #24 the best since the original BROWNS  #32, the best  of all time.   

@dutch-oven said:

Look what Santa left for me!

It's been another disappointing Browns season, but at least we have Nick Chubb. 

Santa went Old School for Me.  Early 90s Starter Jacket 

@dutch-oven said:

I fully expect the entire front office and coaching staff to return next year intact.

That's fine IF they address their flaws/look in the mirror.

If they're so smart they'll revisit philosophy/game plans, adjust and turn it around.

If they remain stubborn,well they chop their own heads off.

@browns149 said:

The whole analytical thing isn’t working. They keep saying the Browns are the most analytics driven team in the NFL. AND WE KEEP LOSING

Time to go back to football 101. 
 

And who ever came up with the plan of playing lbs that are the size of safeties should be fired YESTERDAY. Same with the person who decided interior DL isn’t important 

Because of the type of IDL/DTs this FO prefers - the LBers on the field were 3rd on the depth chart (or they became recent additions within the last 2 months).  The FO wisdom that DTs aren't worth prioritizing at all is 1 gigantic reason the Browns won't be making the playoffs once again.  You put that plan in front of an RPO offense like the Saints (when Hill comes in at QB) and it's a forfeit.  The Browns defense was temporarily looking good until the Saints decided to start putting Hill in.  

The chosen personnel failed us big time.  When you have the worst owner in football - he'll continue to blame the wrong guy.  People will get fired; and their replacements will also get sentenced to "Body by Depodesta and Berry."

On the offensive side of the ball - they're overpaying the crap out of Kareem Hunt and David Njoku. Hunt isn't the same guy he was the 1st year or 2 here at all.  The quickness is gone as well as the yardage after contact.  On top of that, the WRs didn't look very focused or inspired throughout the game.  

Oh well, 2 more weeks of preseason football left...

It's been another disappointing Browns season, but at least we have Nick Chubb. 

@bob806 said:

I hope T Bay loses, then three 6-9 teams will be tied for 1st lol. That's insane....almost as insane as DePodesta still being employed.

WTF Haslam, it's clearly not working. Can his a$$ & let Berry dig out of this by himself.

I fully expect the entire front office and coaching staff to return next year intact.

I also expect that their days will be numbered come this time, next year, and that we will be arguing over who should be the new head coach. 

@mjp28 said:

The SNF game normally follows the regular games which happens to be on Saturday this week.   

And I did mention that the NFLN  game WAS  on tonight.    Easy enough  ?  

.....  oh BTW  if you want SNF,   Sunday Night: Tampa Bay @ Arizona (NBC)  

But no IAWF on Sunday.    

I hope T Bay loses, then three 6-9 teams will be tied for 1st lol. That's insane....almost as insane as DePodesta still being employed.

WTF Haslam, it's clearly not working. Can his a$$ & let Berry dig out of this by himself.

@diehardbrownsfan1 said:

That's because it's Saturday......  Yes we know.

The SNF game normally follows the regular games which happens to be on Saturday this week.   

And I did mention that the NFLN  game WAS  on tonight.    Easy enough  ?  

.....  oh BTW  if you want SNF,   Sunday Night: Tampa Bay @ Arizona (NBC)  

But no IAWF on Sunday.    

- 22 Passes
- 15 Runs
- Chubb only touched the ball 10 times
 

And people want to keep this fool

@mjp28 said:

 NO  NBC  Sunday Night Football  tonight.

That's because it's Saturday......

8 - 11 pm on NBC  -  ITS A WONDERFUL LIFE   

How about that,  I always watch it once a year, why not tonight ?     I've seen enough football today, how many of you are going to watch  IAWL  tonight with me ?

Good evening everyone.       

...... edit add,  and for you sick football junkies on  NFLN. there's  :   

@jiggins7919 said:

they REALLY need a dome with a retractable roof. I'm guessing this game was a crap show to watch. Who wants that?! 

Yup.  The weather wasn't conducive to playing football.  And a lot of people were smart enough not to venture into that environment.

@ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:

I don't want to stir shit up but it has been my opinion that Haslam is an imbecile and only hires who The NFL execs send to him. It is not his lack of football experience that sucks, it is his overall lack of any detectable value set that he sees are a foundation.

I personally believe DePodesta is the head coach and GM. 

The reason ShitMyPantski is not a good coach is because he does not have the balls or desire to right this team.

He is taking a free ride. When he is released or moves on he can easily.say his hands were tied and be believed. His refusal to make waves makes him the perfect candidate for other effeminate owners whose egos cannot withstand a challenge.

The Browns are Haslam's personal toy and he not going to let pressure to win make him do something of an individual choice.

This team was fucked with Lerner, and this cocksucker Haslam is no different

Kind of talking in circles there. I agree on some of your takes.

Stefanski has flaws but his offense was generally fine with #7, averaging 24 points/g. His 4th down gambles have been maddening.

Today, I lost faith in Stefanski. Played " not to lose."

If I'm Haslam I can DePodesta after the Steelers game & let Berry make all the decisions. No need for a "chief strategy officer" as long as the coach & GM can work together.

Too many Chiefs & not enough Indians.

Parcels, Walsh, Gibbs, Noll, Shula. Belichick...I don't think they had a middle man between the owner & GM like the Browns have now.

Nice accuracy on the dump-off passes, especially the ones for zero gain.

Yes, there were a few drops - it was cold. I'll bet by now watson realizes the browns don't have a domed stadium.....

230 million guaranteed. 3 FIRST ROUND DRAFT PICKS.

The rest of the team deserves far better. Baker would have won that game.

Meanwhile - Greg Joseph, kicker for the Vikigns, kicked a 61 yard field goal for the Vikings' win, with two seconds left.

Yes, he used to be with the Browns.

both defenses had some trouble - it has to be tough reacting to what the offense does, with a slick iced up field.

When Baker got sacked - it was "can't get through his progressions fast enought".

watson had all day and the next to throw a few times. sacked.

230 million. wow.

Merry Christmas to everyone anyways !

@jiggins7919 said:

I saw us drop 2 touchdown passes.

Actually three. I know Cooper slipped but he had his hands on it and game changing players make those plays. DPJ and Njoku both dropped perfectly thrown passes considering the conditions. I'm also not dogging on Cooper for the same reason, just saying.

While Watson did have some moments today, can we just appreciate what the hell he has done since missing all that time. I seen him make grown man passes today in the bitter cold, passes I don't think Mayfield or Brissett could make. Not bad for someone who played in a dome. You can see he clearly loves the game of football.

@browns149 said:

The whole analytical thing isn’t working. They keep saying the Browns are the most analytics driven team in the NFL. AND WE KEEP LOSING

Time to go back to football 101. 
 

And who ever came up with the plan of playing lbs that are the size of safeties should be fired YESTERDAY. Same with the person who decided interior DL isn’t important 

Yep, it's the chicken & the egg theory. 

The successful D has a beefy interior usually. The Browns ignored that by choice.

The lighter, faster LBs are all on IR because they got run over. Broms secondary continues to be the leader i team tackles.... a tradition for 30 years ugh.