@syd said:

who would have said this ? if Hamlin had gotten hurt at a 1 p.m start would if have brought this much attention ? kinda like Garrett when he tried to kill rudouph on national t.v  ? I doubt it 

it would have been quite  "different ".

  The balance/scale can tip so easily, oh, how close Hamlin came to losing his life.

   Still, surviving changes you. Getting a second chance at life - you tend to be valuing life - everything around you - so much more than some things and people you took for granted before. The changes are good changes - and they tend to last a lifetime with most folks.

   You realize every day is a gift - every special moment is never to be forgotten. People you love dearly - being with them again and again every day - impact your life far more than it would have.

    Hamlin nearly lost his life on TV - that will impact so many folks. Not as much as it will Hamlin, his family and friends.

    Wyatt Teller played with the Bills - he has some great perspective on Hamlin surviving, talking with family and teammates again:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/pro/browns/2023/01/07/wyatt-teller-buffalo-bills-damar-hamlin-relationship-football-cleveland-browns-nfl-injuries-weather/69777583007/

@5150k9 said:

it's football wtf can you say

@d-bone said:

But what do I know. 

I'm pulling for you D Bone.   

But what do I know. 

@dutch-oven said:

Yes, things that are real actually take time to master.

Unlike the God fallacy, that has been tied up with a pretty little bow thousands of years ago. 

...it doesn't have to cost anything to believe in an afterlife, and an all-knowing entity.  There have been a great many people that have experienced Near Death Experiences (NDE's)...going all the way back to a Roman soldier who came back while on his funeral pyre.  And it has happened to disbelieving scientists.  I don't personally know anyone who had one...and I work with scientists.  I do however fall in the Mandela Effect category as I remember the news reports in the 80's of Nelson Mandela dying while in prison.  I distinctly remember thinking, Geeze, there goes an honest-to-God good guy who was trying to do the right thing for civilization.  LOTS of people remember that.  But it didn't happen.  This goes to the Many Worlds theory where time lines branch off.  How we all got back on THIS timeline I don't know.  I'm also one that used to (not anymore) encounter an occasional Deja vu.....which a theory suggests that a Deja vu is a timeline correction.   

Religion has been a bad thing in causing much strife and war...as well as denouncing scientific truths throughout history.  However, I maintain, what's wrong with the Ten Commandments?  

Sorry to be so way off topic.   Go Browns!

@orion said:

In this case, medical science.  Which still has a very long way to go.

Yes, things that are real actually take time to master.

Unlike the God fallacy, that has been tied up with a pretty little bow thousands of years ago. 

@dutch-oven said:

Praise Science! 

In this case, medical science.  Which still has a very long way to go.

Praise Science! 

@orion said:

Man, this news is soo good to read.   Keep healing up!     Thanks in advance God!

looks like you may win the day

@syd said:

i  think it's fairly new but isn't there a machine that can do cpr ? 

Yes, the LUCAS machine. It does the compressions once it's set up (which takes some time), freeing personnel to get the IVs, oxygen, intubation, heart monitor, & IV drugs in order. If there isn't one available, it's ok you just have to rotate personnel to do compressions,as you can get fatigued. I think it's only about 15 years old.

@hoorta said:

Regarding the red well, um- no shit Sherlock.  I've seen plenty of instances firsthand where medics had to do CPR on someone, and they're not exactly gentle when doing it. Have your chest pounded on for 10 minutes and envision what the results can be. Patients have sustained cracked ribs, if they've survived.  

Second very believable thing (per a cardiologist) is if you have cardiac failure, your lungs can start filling up with fluid, but that wouldn't explain blood in his lungs.  

i  think it's fairly new but isn't there a machine that can do cpr ? 

@hoorta said:

  I've seen plenty of instances firsthand where medics had to do CPR on someone, and they're not exactly gentle when doing it. Have your chest pounded on for 10 minutes and envision what the results can be. Patients have sustained cracked ribs, if they've survived.  

Second very believable thing (per a cardiologist) is if you have cardiac failure, your lungs can start filling up with fluid, but that wouldn't explain blood in his lungs.  

Yeah, it's all sad. 

I worked 30+ years as a fireman/paramedic, estimating I was involved with CPR around 500-600 times. It's not pretty but it does give the patient a chance. 

The good news for Hamlin is the paramedics were right there, began CPR with an AED inside two minutes, so obviously that quick response gives him a way better chance than say a 5 minute response to asystole. Hence, the reason he improved overnight.  The ultimate outcome is still in doubt, let's hope he pulls through & can live a good life.

@diehardbrownsfan1 said:

Being given CPR for so long, and then again when he reached the hospital he may have suffered some brain or organ damage.

Chances are he never plays again... I feel for the kid...