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Brady's the one: Quinn wins Cleveland Browns QB competition, will start vs. Vikings

by Mary Kay Cabot, The Plain Dealer

Wednesday September 09, 2009, 7:44 PM

(UPDATED: 7:44 p.m.)

BEREA, Ohio -- Brady Quinn beat out Derek Anderson for the Browns' starting quarterback job and will start Sunday's opener against the Vikings, an NFL source told The Plain Dealer on Wednesday.

Quinn, who went 1-2 as a starter last season before succumbing to a broken right index finger, was told Tuesday night by Browns coach Eric Mangini that he won the job, but continued to go along with the charade when he met with reporters on Wednesday.

"He hasn't said anything to us yet," Quinn said straight-faced. "He talked to us about it, but hasn't told us anything about a final decision for us."

Anderson, who wasn't as chipper Wednesday as he's been during preseason, may have inadvertently tipped his hand during his interview session when asked if it would be hard to keep the secret the rest of the week.

"No. Because after this next two minutes are over I'm not going to be talking to you guys. It's pretty easy," he said. "Obviously, the rest of us have to go about our regular preparations and continue to do what we always do and just not talk to our families."

The last time Anderson lost a quarterback competition -- to Charlie Frye in 2007 -- he won it back by the second quarter of the opener against Pittsburgh, went 10-5, threw 29 touchdown passes and made the Pro Bowl.

"I'll continue to prepare," said Anderson. "Obviously I got in the first game. The guy who's not playing has got to be ready."

He also said he didn't think the news would divide the locker room.

"Guys respect both of us," he said. "We all have a lot of friends on the team. Guys want to win games. That's what it's about. I don't think guys in here are fighting amongst each other."

Anderson's 2007 season also dispelled the notion that splitting reps in preseason is bad for the starter's timing.

"All of our guys were in there together and we worked at it," said Anderson. "We all continue to get better. I don't think there was an issue of lack of throwing to one guy or lack of throwing to another guy."

Quinn said he didn't think the starter would be looking over his shoulder.

"I hope not," he said. "I don't think that's in the spirit of our team and how we want to do things. We're going to be supportive of each other whoever gets the job and continue to keep working on it."

Brady Quinn dismissed suggestions of lingering conflict after winning the QB competition with Derek Anderson (right). "We're going to be supportive of each other whoever gets the job and continue to keep working on it," Quinn said.Mangini informed the quarterbacks in separate conversations Tuesday night, explaining why and how the decision was made. "They both took it exactly the way that I'd expect them to take it, as pros, as good teammates," said Mangini. "Based on the way that they've competed and handled this whole situation, it's really not surprising."

He let the rest of the players find out when the 11:30 a.m. practice was closed to the media after the first 30 minutes and the team lined up for 11-on-11 drills. By 3 p.m. Bills receiver Terrell Owens tweeted "Congrats 2 Brady Quinn for starting job with Cleveland Browns."

As for asking the quarterbacks to keep it under wraps the rest of the week, Mangini said, "I don't think anybody is in an awkward spot trying to maintain a competitive advantage. We all do that. That's all of our goals.

"We're trying to do everything that we can do to win the game on Sunday. I think everybody's excited about doing that."

But if Vikings coach Brad Childress has been losing sleep over the uncertainty, he didn't let on.

"I think the big thing is that we're getting ready for a scheme," Childress said. "I can't imagine they're going to get rid of all their plays and their system. They're both bigger guys, taller in stature, one's a little faster than the other, one's got a little more experience than the other. I think it's basically getting ready for all those other people in the schemes and seeing what kind of individual skills those guys have."

Quinn admitted he'd be excited to go against Brett Favre, who's started 269 games to Quinn's three.

"A legendary quarterback like that, it would be awesome," Quinn said. "He's someone as a kid you watch growing up playing in the backyard trying to emulate. He's an unbelievable quarterback so it would be fun to go up against him if indeed that is the case."

He'll also have his hands full with the Vikings' formidable defense, one that finished fourth in the NFL in 2008 with 45 sacks.

"All around, they're a solid defense, from the D-line to their backers to their secondary," Quinn said. "They do a great job of getting pressure on the quarterback, whether just from the front four or any dogs or blitzes. Their linebackers are athletic, they're able to play the run but they also play the pass.

"Their secondary is solid all around. You've got Pro Bowlers and guys who are able to break on the ball well but also play the run well in the secondary. All around they are a solid, solid defense."

Statistically, Quinn fared better in preseason, completing 21 of 31 attempts for 225 yards with one touchdown and one interception for a 86.1 rating. Anderson completed 15 of 26 attempts with no touchdowns and two interceptions for a 51.3 rating.

"I thought we both played well in the preseason, did some good things," Quinn said. "We both got better. Both of us learned a lot through the whole process."

In the end, both think the competition was good for the team, especially if they need both QBs this season.

"We'll be able to adjust to times of adversity and it helped prepare everyone on our team," said Quinn

Here's her original article:

BEREA, Ohio -- Brady Quinn has won the quarterback competition and will start Sunday's game against the Vikings, a league source told The Plain Dealer today.

Browns coach Eric Mangini told the quarterbacks Tuesday night and Quinn took the first-team reps in practice Wednesday afternoon.

Quinn acted Wednesday as though he didn't know. "We're just out there continuing to battle with one another to get everything better for our team,'' he said.

Quinn went 1-2 in his three starts last season. Details to come.

3:25 update:

The website profootballtalk.com reported that Buffalo wide receiver Terrell Owens has posted a congratulatory message to Quinn on his Twitter page

4:25 update:

Here is the complete text of what Browns coach Eric Mangini had to say about the Browns quarterback derby, according to the transcript provided by the Browns:

* On when he informed the quarterbacks who the starter would be.

"I talked to them (Tuesday) night."

* On if one quarterback took it harder than the other.

"They both took it exactly the way that I'd expect them to take it, as pros, as good teammates. Based on the way that they've competed and handled this whole situation, it's really not surprising."

* On if he told the rest of the team who the starter would be.

"I think they'll be able to figure it out."

* On if there was one announcement to the entire team concerning the starting quarterback.

"No."

* On if the quarterbacks are put in an awkward spot trying to keep the secret.

"I don't think anybody is in an awkward spot trying to maintain a competitive advantage. We all do that. That's all of our goals. We're trying to do everything that we can do to win the game on Sunday. I think everybody's excited about doing that."

Quinn appears to be winner in QB competition

- by CBS Sports

ESPN's interview with James Walker late this afternoon: http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/post?id=2757

TO's tweet (the thought is they have the same agent):

Congrats 2 Brady Quinn 4 starting job w/Cleveland Browns!!

about 2 hours ago from UberTwitter

http://twitter.com/terrellowens

]]>https://brownsboard.com/topic/6594/brady-quinn-wins-the-qb-competitionRSS for NodeThu, 01 Oct 2026 10:26:28 GMTWed, 09 Sep 2009 19:12:12 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to Brady Quinn wins the QB competition on Fri, 11 Sep 2009 15:22:30 GMT]]>Email from Terry Pluto this a.m.

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I have not been hung up on the starting QB biz because I have believed (and have wrote and said) for months it was Quinn. Just fits Mangini's approach, and I believe they have been getting him ready.

take care,

terry

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Interesting how his feel is its been Quinn all long and his prep is fine.

(I posted it on another thread too, but felt it was relevant here).

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/105452https://brownsboard.com/post/105452Fri, 11 Sep 2009 15:22:30 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Brady Quinn wins the QB competition on Fri, 11 Sep 2009 04:45:34 GMT]]>If Quinn wins 10 games in his first full season of starts and ends the season with an 84 passer's rating, he's doing all right, and anyone who says he needs to go is an idiot.

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@riffer-x said:

Mik, the point is not to make fun of a guy who can't play football, it's simply that it was a stupid pick. Look what we have this year with our 6th rounders, two guys in Francies and Davis that are looking damn good. Plus, if they wouldn't have screwed up with Carey it could have been 3 contributors in round 6.

Phillip just outsmarted himself. The writing was on the wall the kid couldn't catch. That's another thing, I am beyond sick and tired of guys getting drafted by this team that can't catch and it was known coming in. Glue Hands had it written all over him from scouting reports. He was the last straw of shit draft picks on WR's for me. Now it looks like they got it right.

We'll have a good time talking shit over this Saturday if you're still coming BTW.

I fully agree a bad pick by Phil.

I am still going to try and come down to that bar Saturday night. Got to get the little ladies buy off ๐Ÿ™‚

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Masters said:

Like I said Riffer, I am not saying the guy will ever develope. I just don't see the need to bash the guy for fundementals he started learning a lot later than most. It's not really fair to expect from Hubbard what one would expect from a college WR coming out who has been playing football since he was 10 years old.

Personally I think he should not have been drafted by anyone and is a guy that should have been grabbed as a UDFA, then given the realistic time to develope. CLE was probably not the right place for that.

Mik, the point is not to make fun of a guy who can't play football, it's simply that it was a stupid pick. Look what we have this year with our 6th rounders, two guys in Francies and Davis that are looking damn good. Plus, if they wouldn't have screwed up with Carey it could have been 3 contributors in round 6.

Phillip just outsmarted himself. The writing was on the wall the kid couldn't catch. That's another thing, I am beyond sick and tired of guys getting drafted by this team that can't catch and it was known coming in. Glue Hands had it written all over him from scouting reports. He was the last straw of shit draft picks on WR's for me. Now it looks like they got it right.

We'll have a good time talking shit over this Saturday if you're still coming BTW.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/105162https://brownsboard.com/post/105162Thu, 10 Sep 2009 19:47:37 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Brady Quinn wins the QB competition on Thu, 10 Sep 2009 19:35:55 GMT]]>Like I said Riffer, I am not saying the guy will ever develope. I just don't see the need to bash the guy for fundementals he started learning a lot later than most. It's not really fair to expect from Hubbard what one would expect from a college WR coming out who has been playing football since he was 10 years old.

Personally I think he should not have been drafted by anyone and is a guy that should have been grabbed as a UDFA, then given the realistic time to develope. CLE was probably not the right place for that.

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Masters said:

I'd say that is true for any guy who has been playing since HS. But in the case of Hubbard, the guy never played football until he was in college.

I can also think of a guy who couldn't run routes or catch that both played for the Browns at one time, Keenan McCardell.

Now I am not saying Hubbard will ever develope, but it has to be kept in perspective that he was a track guy who was turned into a football player at the age of 18/19. So it's not like this guy has been drilled on the fundementals for the last 10 years.

We've had this discussion before, but how many years do you plan on waiting for the kid to see if he can ever figure out how to walk and chew gum at the same time?

It's the NFL, you need to be ready to play or at least just in need of ironing out some rough edges. The fact that he was still eligible for one more PS year and they chose Leggett says a lot. Basically, he may have beat out one WR in camp and that was Norwood. Dude is just a suckass football player, period. I'll never forget the time he he jumped for a ball at his waste, and then promptly whiffed at the ball with his arms. The worst part was that it was a Dorster soft toss from about ten yards away, just hanging there.

I'll give the dude one thing, he brought some good laughs to me and a buddy of mine. I kinda have an idea what Usain Bolt would look like now.

BTW, I don't ever remotely recall McCardell being in the same universe as Glue Hands as far as general suckitude.

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@inspecta said:

I'll admit I was hoping that Hubbard would "get it" this year, the guy is a physical freak with all the gifts you would want in a WR. He just couldn't put it all together.

Probably played soccer as a kid....

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@riffer-x said:

if you can't catch a football, run a route or know the game at all by the age of 20, you never will.

I'd say that is true for any guy who has been playing since HS. But in the case of Hubbard, the guy never played football until he was in college.

I can also think of a guy who couldn't run routes or catch that both played for the Browns at one time, Keenan McCardell.

Now I am not saying Hubbard will ever develope, but it has to be kept in perspective that he was a track guy who was turned into a football player at the age of 18/19. So it's not like this guy has been drilled on the fundementals for the last 10 years.

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@inspecta said:

Playground legend, for God's sake take down that half of your sig. Hubbard is gone and Rucker is 3rd string and Robiskie is nowhere near starting....oh yeah and Tucker is gone.

Oh come on, leave ole Glue Hands up there, that shit was highsterical.

Gotta admit, I doubted my instincts for a day or two when everyone was proclaiming Hubbard the next Al Toon the first day of camp, but then I went to camp and promptly watched him drop two off the bat.

PL was funny too when he came in proclaiming " I told you guys, there was a reason I have Hubsy in my sig, he's gonna be a bitch."

LMAO, if you can't catch a football, run a route or know the game at all by the age of 20, you never will.

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@roethlisbergerfumbles said:

I favor the 2nd one! It looks like Rogers is going to toss his head now.

Rogers drops back, looks deep!, has a man open!, he fires!, Brett Favre finally goes away!

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@roethlisbergerfumbles said:

It looks like Rogers is going to toss his head now.

Or eat it.

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@dan-in-florida said:

hwa3hy.jpg or 2jb6wk6.jpg

Is the second one too gruesome? Should I stick with the stretched neck?

I favor the 2nd one! It looks like Rogers is going to toss his head now.

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@playgroundlegend said:

I think we are keeping Ratliff as our 3rd because he is more of a physical specimine and has a higher ceiling than Bartel. Plus he has shown that he has been better than he played this summer, plus he was part of a draft trade so we need to attempt to develop him

With consistant coaching and mentoring anything is possible but i honestly failed to see more upside in ratty than bartel quite the reverse actually...ratty seems to be just another undisciplined inconsistant gunner with no real pedigree to offer an argument other than a coach that perhaps likes to take on underdog projects hopefully with a reason....๐Ÿ˜‰

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/105047https://brownsboard.com/post/105047Thu, 10 Sep 2009 15:34:54 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Brady Quinn wins the QB competition on Thu, 10 Sep 2009 15:18:20 GMT]]>I think we are keeping Ratliff as our 3rd because he is more of a physical specimine and has a higher ceiling than Bartel. Plus he has shown that he has been better than he played this summer, plus he was part of a draft trade so we need to attempt to develop him

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@diehardbrownsfan said:

Players are paid to play. If they don't want to perform or do what the coach says, then get the xxxx off the team and sell cars for a living.

easiest way to find your players......i dont give a damn how good you are, coach is the boss. dont like it, gtfo....

inmates have been running the asylum here for much too long. we haven't had a team, we have a bunch of marginal football players. at least he's willing to make those decisions that may paint him in a bad light, because not all good decisions are easy.

im impressed with his decision to withhold the name of the starter, despite the majority abhorring it. shows me who's boss, which surely isn't us. the fact every one got so spun about it.....is amusing, to say the least. im thinkin it was to mangini as well.....

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@timugen said:

That's the decision that really disturbs me.

Ratliff doesn't even belong on an NFL roster at this point. I could understand a QB-starved team stashing him on the PS.... but keeping him while cutting Bartel, who is clearly more "ready" at this point, just screams of Mangini being a stubborn asshole... to the detriment of the team.

And it wouldn't surprise me if a player or two saw it that way as well, and they just think "blah, blah, Blow it out your ass" whenever Mangini tries to give some motivational "do it for the team" bullshit to them.

All i can say is the 3rd guy is maybe here more for what his future holds v what he is doing right now.

I thought Bartel looked better as well, but am not going to sweat it much because if we are reduced to giving the 3rd guy significant snaps, the season is long gone.

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@timugen said:

That's the decision that really disturbs me.

Ratliff doesn't even belong on an NFL roster at this point. I could understand a QB-starved team stashing him on the PS.... but keeping him while cutting Bartel, who is clearly more "ready" at this point, just screams of Mangini being a stubborn asshole... to the detriment of the team.

And it wouldn't surprise me if a player or two saw it that way as well, and they just think "blah, blah, Blow it out your ass" whenever Mangini tries to give some motivational "do it for the team" bullshit to them.

Players are paid to play. If they don't want to perform or do what the coach says, then get the xxxx off the team and sell cars for a living.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/104947https://brownsboard.com/post/104947Thu, 10 Sep 2009 09:56:40 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Brady Quinn wins the QB competition on Thu, 10 Sep 2009 09:28:29 GMT]]>What about Ratliff or Bartel though? That was kind of bogus

The ratliff decision is the one tainting choice mangini made and was totally bogus bartel had far more discipline and made good what little time he recieved i honestly dont care for ratty he is like DA when he was in jr highschool..I suspect ratty is a relative of mangini's hehehehe.๐Ÿ˜‰

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/104945https://brownsboard.com/post/104945Thu, 10 Sep 2009 09:28:29 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Brady Quinn wins the QB competition on Thu, 10 Sep 2009 06:40:58 GMT]]>I rarely post here and lurked as a guest for a long time before ever joining, but I can say Shep definitely knows what he's talking about. Good post telling him off.

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@dtbh said:

I don't shit talk in the sense of acting like I'm tough... I just argue.

Sure, from a place of total ignorance. Per usual.

Let's take a stroll down memory lane, shall we, Mr. Bounty Hunter? "Kobe sucks," "Kobe was carried by his teammates," "Kobe can't win anything without Shaq." Those sound like the words of someone so basketball ignorant that he gets his modship of a basketball forum stripped. It was either for said ignorance, or maybe just because of your winning personality/people skills.

@dtbh said:

Speaking of who is still a registered user, nice job being a man sticking to your word.

I was wondering when this was coming.

Lums hasn't been out of control since, has he? Did you see the outpouring of plain old hatred for that fool in that thread I started? Nothing brings folks together like focusing upon a common enemy. We've been talking QB in many threads with minimal distraction pretty much ever since. The Quinn "announcement" went by with a slight, pathetic whimper from him...the dude has been systematically neutered.

Methinks it may have worked.

@dtbh said:

I guess I'll go ahead and show you what it's like to have the balls (and life outside of the internet) to leave if I'm the outcast.

Ah, the old "I have a life outside of the internet" argument. Kinda lame, right? You're pretty much saying "I'm cool and you're a loser!!! So it doesn't matter if I'm wrong here because I have a life and you don't!!!" Did I get the gist of your argument? So go ahead and PM me your social calendar, your resume and your bank statements if you care to measure cocks. If not, blow me.

And for your last thought, is that your farewell speech? Because, friend, if you weren't sure, you ARE the outcast.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/104935https://brownsboard.com/post/104935Thu, 10 Sep 2009 05:14:19 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Brady Quinn wins the QB competition on Thu, 10 Sep 2009 03:51:58 GMT]]>How it's possible for anybody to think that a guy like Shep doesn't know anything about football I have no idea.

The guy posts here ABOUT FOOTBALL year round. How the hell could he not know anything?

Get over the kid drama, the season is upon us.

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@riffer-x said:

What about Ratliff or Bartel though? That was kind of bogus.

That's the decision that really disturbs me.

Ratliff doesn't even belong on an NFL roster at this point. I could understand a QB-starved team stashing him on the PS.... but keeping him while cutting Bartel, who is clearly more "ready" at this point, just screams of Mangini being a stubborn asshole... to the detriment of the team.

And it wouldn't surprise me if a player or two saw it that way as well, and they just think "blah, blah, Blow it out your ass" whenever Mangini tries to give some motivational "do it for the team" bullshit to them.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/104915https://brownsboard.com/post/104915Thu, 10 Sep 2009 04:06:39 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Brady Quinn wins the QB competition on Thu, 10 Sep 2009 03:36:51 GMT]]>We knew this all along. DA would have had to outplay Quinn a ton to get the start.

What I'm hearing is that Mangie thinks the hardcore competition made both players better, which is the same with the rest of the team. Now the question is how much the lack of continuity will hurt early on. To be fair, the receiving corps and oline was unsettled too, so maybe the competition was for the best. I do think DA looked like he is getting better regardless of his low rating in limited reps.

What about Ratliff or Bartel though? That was kind of bogus.

I also expect Hadnot to start over Poke Chop as ASAP.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/104911https://brownsboard.com/post/104911Thu, 10 Sep 2009 03:36:51 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Brady Quinn wins the QB competition on Thu, 10 Sep 2009 03:34:12 GMT]]>Let me know which ones you guys think they should be

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