Edit...the Pack lost. Roger G. crying somewhere, as they join his beloved Steelers & Patriots as playoff outsiders.

Maybe someday we can enjoy a Browns playoff run.

@mjp28 said:

I had some really good advice on KC but ignored it ..... mistake.      

..... edit add,   DAL, PHI and SF all B-I-G.    

Well .....  so much for the   *NFL LOCKS* 1-2    .      PHI 22-16 L final.   DAL 6-26 L  SF W 38-13.        I'm sticking to college.   

@dutch-oven said:

Once again, this is NOT the Browns game thread.

That the other thread that has a title that looks like this. 

Correct.   This is for everything else.

That the other thread that has a title that looks like this. 

talking shadow knee is not down.. knee down..proper spot.. 

@gumby73 said:

In your opinion?

a) Was it a fumble?

or

b) It's Josh Dobbs.. and his arm was making a forward motion ?

Titans twitter has blown=up..

(the 2nd, was a fumble that Dobbs caught..clearly) 

I thought it was a fumble.  Barely. 

I've been posting on the wrong thread. 

@dutch-oven said:

I just can't see a Kevin Stefanski led team going into Pittsburgh with nothing riding on the game with the exception of knocking the Steelers off and actually doing it. 

pm ya on this...  damn I miss the tavern

@gumby73 said:

1) Yeah i think so... to many player signs.. emotionless

2) Pickett's not my bother today .. getting them to 3rd & longs & any of their RB's could be 

It's Showtime Time D. Watson ! ! GET OPEN !

I just can't see a Kevin Stefanski led team going into Pittsburgh with nothing riding on the game with the exception of knocking the Steelers off and actually doing it. 

@dutch-oven said:

1) The end of the Joe Woods Era? 

2) I can't say I'm really optimistic today, hope I'm wrong.

1) Yeah i think so... to many player signs.. emotionless

2) Pickett's not my bother today .. getting them to 3rd & longs & any of their RB's could be 

It's Showtime Time D. Watson ! ! GET OPEN !

I can't say I'm really optimistic today, hope I'm wrong.

@bob806 said:

Attitude? Low budget interior D line? 

In the case of Clowney, it appears to be a large dose of the former and the latter. 

@bob806 said:

@bob806 said:

Good points here. SAME

As fans we just scratch our heads. 23 seasons since the return and really only 3 have been good. A few "near .500" seasons recently.

1) It's almost impossible to be this bad in a league that's parity driven through drafts & free agency.

2.) Damn I'm frustrated. Can't give up on 'em, but holy hell this is horrible.

Your on to something that Andrew Berry won't directly answer...

IMHO..

the league drug out D. Watson getting 11 games 

Berry was left, trusting on his youth player development hopes.. Over meaningful player additions into camp..

Once our season record/ met / the trade deadline? ?  was too late(our record)... and cost him a good roster year & maybe meaningful FA's additions

@gumby73 said:

agree.. the game review call took under a minute..

I would have offered the Titans a 6th round pick, after our Jets game..

1.) This defense needs a player leadership type, such as we saw in Washington's Chase Young on field/sidelines

2. The 6th rounder to Titans  was for Jim Schwartz back to Cleveland as DC  

Good points here.

Kind of a tangent with me here, but a guy like Clowney could have been that kind of leader, but he chose a different path. In his defense, the dynamic duo dream of he & Garrett never materialized. 

Why? -Scheme? Coaching? Attitude? Low budget interior D line? 

As fans we just scratch our heads. 23 seasons since the return and really only 3 have been good. A few "near .500" seasons recently. It's almost impossible to be this bad in a league that's parity driven through drafts & free agency.

Damn I'm frustrated. Can't give up on 'em, but holy hell this is horrible.

@bob806 said:

I didn't think it was a fumble. If that's Brady, Rodgers, the new darling Herbert, it's reversed. 

I feel bad for Vrabel. I wonder if changes are coming to Tennessee, in light of the GM firing.

agree.. the game review call took under a minute..

I would have offered the Titans a 6th round pick, after our Jets game..

1.) This defense needs a player leadership type, such as we saw in Washington's Chase Young on field/sidelines

2. The 6th rounder to Titans  was for Jim Schwartz back to Cleveland as DC  

@gumby73 said:

In your opinion?

a) Was it a fumble?

or

b) It's Josh Dobbs.. and his arm was making a forward motion ?

Titans twitter has blown=up..

(the 2nd, was a fumble that Dobbs caught..clearly) 

I didn't think it was a fumble. If that's Brady, Rodgers, the new darling Herbert, it's reversed. 

I feel bad for Vrabel. I wonder if changes are coming to Tennessee, in light of the GM firing.

@sdbacker80 said:

Bringing Pressure.  See there it works

In your opinion?

a) Was it a fumble?

or

b) It's Josh Dobbs.. and his arm was making a forward motion ?

Titans twitter has blown=up..

(the 2nd, was a fumble that Dobbs caught..clearly) 

@mjp28 said:

I had some really good advice on KC but ignored it ..... mistake.      

..... edit add,   DAL, PHI and SF all B-I-G.    

Now those 3 I feel good about Sunday.   Well see what happens. 

@mjp28 said:

TEN 16 - 13, with 9 minutes left .... I've been surfing this game.

JAX 20 -16 with 2+ minutes left.

JAX 20. TEN 16 final.   How about that  .....