@tiamat63 said:

Yeah that's not what drafting DTR was.  You're way off the mark here. 

I could be. Wouldn't be the first time. But if Watson is going to run then the backup quarterback will be seeing some action. One would hope they have incentive to play well. Anyway it's a fifth rounder, kind of like playing the quarter slots.

WSS

@westside-steve said:

And the main reason a team would bring in another quarterback is to light a fire under under an achieving starter. Not drafting a bum to challenge another bum. Too late to challenge the starter who has no reason to do anything for at least the next three or so years.

WSS

Yeah that's not what drafting DTR was.  You're way off the mark here. 

@ballpeen said:

LOl....no kidding.   Like Mond was just kicking back acting like making the team was a lock.

And the main reason a team would bring in another quarterback is to light a fire under under an achieving starter. Not drafting a bum to challenge another bum. Too late to challenge the starter who has no reason to do anything for at least the next three or so years.

WSS

@westside-steve said:

https://heavy.com/sports/cleveland-browns/dorian-thompson-robinson-kellen-mond-notice/

On notice? That's some funny shit right there.

WSS

LOl....no kidding.   Like Mond was just kicking back acting like making the team was a lock.

@westside-steve said:

https://heavy.com/sports/cleveland-browns/dorian-thompson-robinson-kellen-mond-notice/

On notice? That's some funny shit right there.

WSS

What's funny about Dorian Thompson-Robinson putting Kellen Mond on notice? 

@westside-steve said:

https://heavy.com/sports/cleveland-browns/dorian-thompson-robinson-kellen-mond-notice/

On notice? That's some funny shit right there.

WSS

he is gone so what

the chemistry in the qb room with dobbs watson  and robinson should be a strong one

On notice? That's some funny shit right there.

WSS

@nickers said:

Quit drinking you drunken goober!

wtf doe's drinking have to do with anything ?  you said that Tillman had a injury problem and he only missed 4 game's with a ankle sprain, so step off with your bullshit

@syd said:

quit making shit up

Quit drinking you drunken goober!

@nickers said:

hey dumbass.. No one asked you...

quit making shit up

@syd said:

hey dumbass he only missed 4 games 

hey dumbass.. No one asked you...

@nickers said:

thats the guy I wanted... not injury riddled Tillweed...

hey dumbass he only missed 4 games 

@calfoxwc said:

https://dawgpounddaily.com/2022/07/16/browns-wide-receivers-separation/

Cleveland Browns: Just how bad was the wide receiver play in 2021?

Which teams were ranked lower than the Cleveland Browns?

Cleveland came in at No. 30 with just the New York Giants and Tennessee Titans faring worse than their wideouts.

@tiamat63 said:

I don't think you actually understand what you posted. 

I don't think you understand what a wimpy change of subject you posted.

tiam: "i'm not wrong, not ever, because uh....because.... the uniforms teams wear are pretty but sometimes they are not"

that kind of cya. LOL (it's called an analogy)

@dutch-oven said:

Why do I have a nagging feeling that genius has no idea who the OP was talking about? 

I just assumed maybe he was saying that was guy he wanted drafted back then but you may be right

@calfoxwc said:

https://twitter.com/BradCongelio/status/1620147289611468800/photo/1

look at the image in new private window - that's how I have to see it:

(average time to throw vs average receiver separation - the Browns were the WORST)

That's average completion probability - NOT separation. 

Hilariously enough, this chart is SO strangely similar to poor throws under pressure...

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/2022-worst-qb-rating-under-pressure#:~:text=Zach Wilson had the worst,2022%2C with a 72.8 rating.

And overall passer rating for full time starters... 

https://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/advanced-stats-qb.php

For good measure, also aligns right up there with bad value throw percentage.

https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/player-stat/completion-percentage

I don't think you actually understand what you posted. 

@bjh2130 said:

That is based only on receivers that were targeted so its very possible to assume that maybe the qb was just throwing to the wrong guy..... i can think of quite a few times guys were running wide open but weren't seen and targeted by the qb

that has happened to a lot of teams - depends on the defense closing in, no time left to throw the ball, running the wrong routes.

I don't know, just sayin. I've seen it happen to the best teams at times.

@nickers said:

thats the guy I wanted... not injury riddled Tillweed...

Why do I have a nagging feeling that genius has no idea who the OP was talking about? 

@calfoxwc said:

https://dawgpounddaily.com/2022/07/16/browns-wide-receivers-separation/

Cleveland Browns: Just how bad was the wide receiver play in 2021?

Which teams were ranked lower than the Cleveland Browns?

Cleveland came in at No. 30 with just the New York Giants and Tennessee Titans faring worse than their wideouts.

That is based only on receivers that were targeted so its very possible to assume that maybe the qb was just throwing to the wrong guy..... i can think of quite a few times guys were running wide open but weren't seen and targeted by the qb

@bjh2130 said:

My guess is a lot of buckeye fans will know that 2nd guy.  He was drafted a round ahead of mr. Tillman though

thats the guy I wanted... not injury riddled Tillweed...

Cleveland Browns: Just how bad was the wide receiver play in 2021?

Which teams were ranked lower than the Cleveland Browns?

Cleveland came in at No. 30 with just the New York Giants and Tennessee Titans faring worse than their wideouts.

@calfoxwc said:

https://twitter.com/BradCongelio/status/1620147289611468800/photo/1

look at the image in new private window - that's how I have to see it:

(average time to throw vs average receiver separation - the Browns were the WORST)

That's obviously a great chart that shows without doubt how good wrs are because when i think elite pass offenses with great wrs that get seperation i think of the chicago bears

@bjh2130 said:

So are you saying they didn't give baker mayfield weapons? Im pretty sure it was said by many pundits leading into the second baker season that the browns had the best weapons with landry obj njoku bryant chubb and hunt. 

Everything concerning the Browns when it comes to calfox has to do with his unending love for Baker Mayfield, and his inability to ever admit that he's not a franchise QB.

Don't let him bullshit you that the nonsense he spews isn't exactly that.