@mjp28 said:

who is underappreciated from the Browns history?

Eric Turner and Michael Dean Perry. Eric Turner was not only a ball hawk but a head hunter. I like Delpit but he's not Eric Turner. Can you imagine Michael Dean Perry lined up next to Myles Garrett and Za'Darius Smith with Eric Turner roaming center field in Jim Schwartz' defense? Good luck with that?

1942-2023.

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Browns history: Most underappreciated player in the team’s history?

Jim Brown, pictured, (below) is one of the greatest players of all time but who is underappreciated from the Browns history?

• By Jared Mueller    ︎.  on October 4, 2023 7:53 am

On Tuesday, we discussed that being a fan of the Cleveland Browns just doesn’t make sense. The team has been terrible for most of our lives, continually since the return.  

︎ The Browns have tried basically everything you can think of from different styles of coaching, different forms of front offices and even a new owner since 1999. None have worked.

The reasons for failure are as long as the years since 1999. Injuries, bad luck, horrible draft selections, overpaid free agents and many more issues have led to the team’s struggles.

︎  Cleveland’s football team has also had a lot of talented players since long before Art Modell ripped the team away. RB Jim Brown, pictured above, is considered one of the best players of all time in professional football. QB Bernie Kosar left a huge legacy, TE Ozzie Newsome was great as a player and then as a GM, OL Joe Thomas just went into the Pro Football Hall of Fame and RB Nick Chubb seems/seemed on the way towards joining him.

.              Thank you,   The management.             

●  After further thought this thread is UNLOCKED for further discussion.        

                    Carry on about  #32 the greatest Jim Brown. 

@mjp28 said:

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From ESPN  and a panel of 50 experts the  G.O.A.T.  of all time in professional football both on offense and defense. 

Well we know who was the #1 NFL RB  G.O.A.T.  -  #32  Jim Brown.      And now the details. 

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*   Editor's note: This article was originally published Aug. 2, 2022. Hall of Fame Cleveland Browns running back Jim Brown, who was judged by a panel of 50 experts, reporters and analysts as the greatest running back of all time, died Friday at age 87.

Quarterback Tom Brady was retired during the 2022 NFL offseason for just 40 days before opting to return for a 23rd season that could (maybe?) be his last, tight end Rob Gronkowski recently decided to hang them up, and defensive tackle Aaron Donald inked a massive contract extension this summer to make him the game's highest-paid non-QB after also considering retirement. It all got us thinking about where these legends of the game stack up all time at their respective positions.

We asked 50 experts, reporters and analysts to name the NFL's greatest player of all time at every position. The goal was to narrow the field to just one GOAT at quarterback, wide receiver, edge rusher, cornerback and even kicker. We're starting here with seven offensive positions, and check out who made it for defense and special teams.

After we tallied the ballots and crowned each offensive position's best player of all time, our voters weighed in and explained their decisions. Plus, Jeff Legwold broke down why each GOAT was chosen, and ESPN Stats & Information dove into the numbers to pick out key stats to know. Let's start at quarterback, which shouldn't surprise many.

Jump to:
QB | RB | WR | TE | OT | G | C

See: GOAT at every defensive position

@syd said:

im sure Jim's wife will have some input on the going's on

I get goose bumps thinking about it!

@nickers said:

Well.. probably not , but.. It would be the class thing to do...

im sure Jim's wife will have some input on the going's on

@syd said:

I do you think the haslems would give up all that money for naming rights ?

Well.. probably not , but.. It would be the class thing to do...

@orion said:

How about just for this year?

that would be real cool being that we are back to  Cleveland Brown stadium for the year

@syd said:

I do you think the haslems would give up all that money for naming rights ?

How about just for this year?

@nickers said:

The Stadium should be named Jim Brown Stadium

I do you think the haslems would give up all that money for naming rights ?

@orion said:

renamed 

The Stadium should be named Jim Brown Stadium

@dutch-oven said:

I suggest the team be named in honor of him. 

renamed 

And you can pass it on to your family and friends.    Here they are The  1964 Championship  Roster :

Pro Football Reference 

On 15 September 1963,  BTW is was 13 days before my 13th birthday Jim Brown had an unbelievable football game.   I believe in this game #32 was going for a TD both rushing and receiving record.  ALSO the line was CLE -7,  the bettors loved  ?  Jim Brown too.   FINAL SCORE:  CLEVELAND  37   Washington. 14.   (And NO I didn't bet it, lol.)

︎. So did you want to try and stop #32 ?   11 versus  1 or not ?  Good luck,he was that good.  162 yards in only 15 carries = 10.8 YPC  I think this might be the " ejection game"  or the only was to stop Jim Brown with only 15 carries....... get him ejected.    I do remember the basics of watching this game with my dad in 1963.   I will check Washington feeds, later.

 

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@coyote said:

One of my best friends who passed about 15 years ago raved about Jim Brown.   Told stories of watching him.    Then when I saw the film, I understood.   He was dominance personified.     I really, really wish I coulda seen him play.........

Oh yeah Coyote  .......  #32 the Jim Brown was like a video pro football RB game  before  there was a video game.  I was 14 when the Cleveland BROWNS won the 1964 NFL Championship  he was unreal and at the top of his game.

AND the defenses back then were simple it was 11 vs 1 everybody try to stop #32.   Which left Gary Collins WIDE OPEN for Frank Ryan to pop him a big TD.  OR Warren Ohio's Paul Warfield and everyone else open while #32 was getting all of the attention.  They also tried uvery Dirty trick, punch, spit, poke his eyes to get him out of the game ..... didn't work just made him more determined. 

I remember one game (from memory,  I will check it)  verses Washington when Jim Brown was going for another record when their LB I believe named Robb was on Jim punching his groin, spitting,  grabbing his face mask, the n*****  stuff finally JB had it and BOTH. of them got thrown out early 4th quarter  ..... I will try and look it up.  He put up with a lot of that,  later in life I understood why JB the man knew why he was a rights fighter too.

NOBODY leads the NFL in rushing 8 of 9 years in rushing,  never ever will again.   And his 12,312 career rushing yards was done in 12 qnd 14 game seasons.

You can see how absolutely crushed I was when Jim Brown at the top of his game with a fantastic pulling OL decided to retire while on the set of the Dirty Dozen .....WHAT ?  WHY ? How can he ?   Oh well I got over it, sorta in maybe 40 or 50 years ...... lol.

Yes he was the GOAT,  and a Cleveland BROWNS player.        

@texasag1969 said:

Whenever I have thought "football" I have always thought "Jim Brown". ??

Oh yes !   And if you ever want or need some more nice Cleveland BROWNS  ?  memories check out the thread below.