@gumby73 said:

Breathe easy!

This Browns front office was not going to pay what Tennessee is rumored to do for D-Hop !

https://www.tennessean.com/story/sports/nfl/titans/2023/07/16/deandre-hopkins-contract-tennessee-titans-salary-details-wide-receivers/70418421007/

Can't find a team with 5 opening games like the 2023 Browns schedule..

Bengals / at Pitt. / Tenn. / Ravens / BYE / 49'ers 

Come Ready Week 1 !

That'll help Aggie QB Ryan Tannehill get new life breathed into the offense. Also helps take the target off Derrick Henry's back too. I can see a lot of play action off Henry for sure.

This Browns front office was not going to pay what Tennessee is rumored to do for D-Hop !

https://www.tennessean.com/story/sports/nfl/titans/2023/07/16/deandre-hopkins-contract-tennessee-titans-salary-details-wide-receivers/70418421007/

Can't find a team with 5 opening games like the 2023 Browns schedule..

Bengals / at Pitt. / Tenn. / Ravens / BYE / 49'ers 

Come Ready Week 1 !

106 catches

1,200 yards

6-7 TDS.

The catches and yards are both roughly top 10 stats at the position for 2022, and TD's are of course a much bigger wild card. That's all on a team with less than ideal situations all around as well

I don't think it makes logical sense to sign the guy, but it's interesting to say the least. I'd be much more worried about injury risk than potential drop off skill wise. If anything, having 6 games off last year may be good for whomever signs the dude.

Interesting match.  

@neo said:

Hopkins just turned 31 two days ago, I wouldn't call that the twilight of his career, he still has a few years left. I would take him only if we didn't pay top dollar for him. He woould still be a nice veteran piece on a team that's contending and needs help at WR. Considering he wants paid, would not make him a good fit here.

Yes 31 is just a number he "might" have a few good years left.  Most good/great  WRs peak around 30 (see J. Rice among others)  but I like to look at other variables like 1. injury history (NOT BAD) 2. comparable comparisons with other players, and so on.   FROM SPOTEC.

2. STATISTICAL COMPARISONS ... he did tail down there.

Now we'll compare our variables and Hopkins statistically over the TWO seasons prior to their signing. In this case we're analyzing: Games Played %, Receiving Targets, Receptions, Receiving Yards, Receiving Touchdowns, Yards After Catch, Dropped Passes, Rating

@nickers said:

And we don't need to be giving some dude in his twilight a payday...

No, there is no reason, unless they think adding him would get a ring.

@orion said:

Did you save a pic of yours?  Sounds like you had one.

LOL....lord no.  I was just talking about the wheel well covers.  You had to take them off to change the tire.  My car in question was a 1966 Pontic wagon.  An older beater with thin tires, so I had to change more than a few flats!  LOL

It did run well, so there is that.  Not much for style, but it did the job.

@ballpeen said:

That push out and up, then back and down on the lever in synch with the up down and in on the actual well was frustrating, especially as rust and road grim had accumulated.

Did you save a pic of yours?  Sounds like you had one.

@nickers said:

And maybe one day you'll find courage and quit drinking..

@syd said:

@texasag1969 said:

Apparently "spare time" is quite the thing around here. LOL!?

Apparently this is what happens on page 3, waiting on D-Hop team news goes into week 2 ? 

Sunday ?  hobby entry,

That push out and up, then back and down on the lever in synch with the up down and in on the actual well was frustrating, especially as rust and road grim had accumulated.

@mjp28 said:

Yeah ......  and dust off my old '65 Ford Mustang for the SB 58 parade.    

........  oh right I sold it in 1971,  got tired of waiting.    

Here's a nice 55 T-Bird that was parked in our neighbors drive way a year ago!

@orion said:

hmm....might need to get that superbowl victory this year then.

Yeah ......  and dust off my old '65 Ford Mustang for the SB 58 parade.    

........  oh right I sold it in 1971,  got tired of waiting.    

Look at the dead values for ZDS for a post-June 1 cut vs the pre-June 1 cut.

In short, if ZDS isn't resigned, he'll be listed as a post June1 cut next season.. resulting in a total of 1.8 dead in each of 2024, 2025, 2026, and 2027 because why not.  Big upfront value leading to scare quotes, sprinkles in reality.

Same analysis for the rest of the list, just different values for each player

@gumby73 said:

I've seen projections that the Browns will start over the cap, by over -61 million $ in 2024.. 31st of 32 teams                    

Is that bad? ?

@bob806 said:

but the salary cap stuff worries me.

i believe the money would be well spent on defensive line depth

@gumby73 said:

I've seen projections that the Browns will start over the cap, by over -61 million $ in 2024.. 31st of 32 teams

Deal Andrew Berry ?

ALL IN ...... baby !

@orion said:

I was kinda' thinking that we're done with big player signings....but we'll see if the money is burning a hole in someone's pocket.

I've seen projections that the Browns will start over the cap, by over -61 million $ in 2024.. 31st of 32 teams

Deal Andrew Berry ?

edit---- 

 click 2024 FA's https://overthecap.com/free-agency/cleveland-brown

 click 2024 team cap https://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space

@gumby73 said:

The Browns will also wake-up with over 13M in cap space.

I was kinda' thinking that we're done with big player signings....but we'll see if the money is burning a hole in someone's pocket.

@nickers said:

And maybe one day you'll find courage and quit drinking... But somehow.. I doubt it

@orion said:

I bet he doesn't want to contend with TC.....and waits a while.  ( IOW, he's gonna sign with someone tomorrow )  

I can see this... ^^ but,

the sun will rise on a Friday where the Nfl likes to steal the weekend headlines..

The Browns will also wake-up with over 13M in cap space.. I'd still like to fill 2 bigger needs...

a) The Chargers told veteran LB/DE Kyle Van Noy to stop the run as a FA with a new team..

b) Jim Schwartz knows  FA DT N. Suh or* Panthers DT FA Matt Ioannidis is age 29

I'm thinking Suh & Van Noy improves 2 bigger needs getting both under 13M..  have at it..here's a FA list

https://overthecap.com/free-agency

@orion said:

Training Camp

Lol, well that went way over my head. I was trying to think of a player with those initials...