@sdbacker80 said:

Alright!!!  Now we are going have some up and down play on Sunday especially with Walker and this might be a game where the defense isn’t its stellar self.  Hang with them

What a difference a day makes! Based on the lobs Watson was throwing Thursday, virtually everyone said Watson had no chance to play this weekend, and probably not for a few MORE weeks. Well guess what? Watson was apparently throwing with gas yesterday and ramped it up nicely, so pending any setbacks, it's effing GO TIME. 

So what's that mean for the game? Honestly it means everything. I really don't like to hammer a Browns player, but like I've said before, people aren't truly understanding how badly PJ Walker played. For example, he made ONE pass to the middle and it got picked off early. He didn't LOOK to the middle until the very last drive where he bounced two passes to a wide open Moore who had miles of separation. He literally couldn't and wouldn't throw to the middle, which means 49's never really tried to defend it. Defense gets really easy when you just defend the sidelines, and that's when you get desperate and throw awful back shoulder fades that get picked off. 

Back to Watson. There will be no rust. There will be no "easing him into the game". Watson would NOT be playing unless he was healthy, which is why it took so long for him to come back. This game is in a dome, and not only that, but a dome where Watson averages 300 yards and 2 tds a game. Expect an overemphasized approach to getting Moore the ball in space, and not gadget runs, as well as force-feeding Njoku. Additionally, the Colts best run stuffing NT is now suspended for 6 games, and that's HUGE for us.

Lastly, Colts starting RT is out and their worst OL is starting. Colts have gods at LG and Center, but everyone else is DEPLORABLE. Gardner is worst in the league at dealing with Pressure. It's the NFL, weird shit happens on the road which keeps it close, but Browns pull away late after Colts are forced to go for a 4th down and fail to convert. 

Browns - 31

Colts - 13

@nickers said:

That's about it CD

ah you and gorka

@sdbacker80 said:

Alright!!!  Now we are going have some up and down play on Sunday especially with Walker and this might be a game where the defense isn’t its stellar self.  Hang with them. 

Colts have lost their best DT, so I expect a lot of running by Ford, Hunt and occasionally by PJ (hopefully with slide built in and not passes late over the middle like he tried last game).

@jiggins7919 said:

You're damn right. It's so frustrating because if Watson was healthy, or even SEMI healthy and playing, I'd literally pick the Browns to win by double digits! That being said, I can't see a way he plays. He's close, but there's no way in my mind you can throw Watson out there if he's just now really throwing. No way. 

Soooooooo...here's what I'll say. We're a better team, even with PJ starting. If PJ actually uses his legs, avoids multiple INT's (he's definitely getting one, get that right), and doesn't fumble...we'll win. We HAVE to win the turnover battle and we'll win the game. So far we're 0-5 in turnovers, but I expect that to change and for Browns to win a gut-wrenching, down to the wire, heart attack special. 

Colts move the ball and score more than we're used to, as I like their coach and SOMEONE will devise a plan against us, it's just bound to happen. However...we get either a special teams or defensive score. I feel it. Browns rally late to win! Hows THAT for half full? LFG! 

Browns - 26

Colts - 23

Alright!!!  Now we are going have some up and down play on Sunday especially with Walker and this might be a game where the defense isn’t its stellar self.  Hang with them. 

@hoorta said:

Hey, what do you expect from a program that was 25 cents? OK, that's $3.50 in 2023 dollars.  ?

But regarding the elf- it's you either love him, or hate him. He adorned the old Muni Stadium for years. As much a part of the Browns as Otto Graham or Jim Brown.  I happen to be in the former camp. Have several pieces of elf apparel.  

There were even rumblings about putting him on the helmets- that would have been a bad Idea. (Not having a logo on our helmets makes them unique) Though I did really like the Buccaneers wearing those orange throwback uniforms yesterday. 

~           I don't care if it was 25 cents  -or-  $25  it's just an   -UGLY-  little  elf.  Not even a  "nice"  NFL mascot.   Take a good look at it !   Now I sure hope that they   NEVER  are serious about putting it on a Cleveland BROWNS  football helmet. 

 Hopefully this will somehow just  ..... move on.    

@canton-dawg said:

AWESOME  DEFENSIVE JOB !  

@sdbacker80 said:

Yeah I didn’t mind the boot action run pass option…maybe Stef trusted the decision making a little better. 

I was wrong I said two hours after the first scoring drive.  We Need to see some more glass half full from you next week 

You're damn right. It's so frustrating because if Watson was healthy, or even SEMI healthy and playing, I'd literally pick the Browns to win by double digits! That being said, I can't see a way he plays. He's close, but there's no way in my mind you can throw Watson out there if he's just now really throwing. No way. 

Soooooooo...here's what I'll say. We're a better team, even with PJ starting. If PJ actually uses his legs, avoids multiple INT's (he's definitely getting one, get that right), and doesn't fumble...we'll win. We HAVE to win the turnover battle and we'll win the game. So far we're 0-5 in turnovers, but I expect that to change and for Browns to win a gut-wrenching, down to the wire, heart attack special. 

Colts move the ball and score more than we're used to, as I like their coach and SOMEONE will devise a plan against us, it's just bound to happen. However...we get either a special teams or defensive score. I feel it. Browns rally late to win! Hows THAT for half full? LFG! 

Browns - 26

Colts - 23

@canton-dawg said:

That's about it CD

@tiamat63 said:

Meh. CmC Anytime hit.  

I need one more carry from Jordan Mason

Browns cover is fine by me, never happier to lose money.

Just busting your balls man. You'd think I was intentionally picking the wrong things if you saw my sports bets.

@dutch-oven said:

Schwartz deserves the credit he's received, but he isn't producing the results if he had last year's DLine. 

Elliot played a lot yesterday he hasn’t been a liability.

We seem to do a better job covering the flats too.  We were seemingly schematically allergic to that last season 

edit: Let me add Alex Wright he looked pretty good yesterday too 

@neo said:

It's not being talked about enough, Tomlinson was a distrupter yesterday, a real difference maker. The Browns finally have a d-line that makes a difference. 

I know you guys love the Dline…

But We have dawgs (the good kind) back in the secondary that were born to sit in hip pockets and run and cover the best so we are now putting them in man coverage (71% of time Sunday).  No more soft cushions, deep thirds and pointing fingers and miscommunication. 

@dutch-oven said:

The Browns need to focus on the DLine this coming offseason too... three of the mainstays now are almost 30 or older. 

Yeah, I think we'll draft/sign more IDL.  I still can't wait to see how good Siaki Ika is once he's healed up and ready for reps.  Tomlinson looked like a pissed off grizzly Bear in pads the way kept getting in their backfield throughout the game.  He jumped off the screen.  That was the most impressive thing I think I've witnessed this year.

@flugel said:

Half of them squids still haven't finished their 40yard dashes from the 1st day of training camp LAST YEAR.  Rumor has it, they were pacing themselves...

The Browns need to focus on the DLine this coming offseason too... three of the mainstays now are almost 30 or older. 

@dutch-oven said:

Schwartz deserves the credit he's received, but he isn't producing the results if he had last year's DLine. 

Half of them squids still haven't finished their 40yard dashes from the 1st day of training camp LAST YEAR.  Rumor has it, they were pacing themselves...

@neo said:

It's not being talked about enough, Tomlinson was a distrupter yesterday, a real difference maker. The Browns finally have a d-line that makes a difference. 

Schwartz deserves the credit he's received, but he isn't producing the results if he had last year's DLine. 

@neo said:

The Browns finally have a d-line that makes a difference. 

@sdbacker80 said:

Tomlinson had himself a game…I think it’s really easy to just point to his addition and Zadrius but EVERY single guy on that side of the ball is playing better football this year.  

It's not being talked about enough, Tomlinson was a distrupter yesterday, a real difference maker. The Browns finally have a d-line that makes a difference. 

@mjp28 said:

~       One of the most   -UGLY-   football  programs  ever created ...... ever !     

And it would be a November 16, 1947  pre-Cleveland  in the   NFL  "real"  football league  club.  Kind of like a   USFL   football league club. ..... or something.   Oh well, an  "almost NFL football"  club ....... whatever. 

And just how did that little gremlin ever make it's way on the    2023 Cleveland BROWNS football field    what a farce. 

Oh God it's still ugly some  76   years later. 

Hey, what do you expect from a program that was 25 cents? OK, that's $3.50 in 2023 dollars.  ?

But regarding the elf- it's you either love him, or hate him. He adorned the old Muni Stadium for years. As much a part of the Browns as Otto Graham or Jim Brown.  I happen to be in the former camp. Have several pieces of elf apparel.  

There were even rumblings about putting him on the helmets- that would have been a bad Idea. (Not having a logo on our helmets makes them unique) Though I did really like the Buccaneers wearing those orange throwback uniforms yesterday. 

@gumby73 said:

When your victory Monday alarm clock music knows that kick/ending was bloody well right ?

Good Day Winners !

Yup, and I 100% agree with Kareem Hunt's statement.. "about f**king time we finally get a lucky break."   

@diehardbrownsfan1 said:

~       One of the most   -UGLY-   football  programs  ever created ...... ever !     

And it would be a November 16, 1947  pre-Cleveland  in the   NFL  "real"  football league  club.  Kind of like a   USFL   football league club. ..... or something.   Oh well, an  "almost NFL football"  club ....... whatever. 

And just how did that little gremlin ever make it's way on the    2023 Cleveland BROWNS football field    what a farce. 

Oh God it's still ugly some  76   years later.