and there's no illegality about it.

The old days, they smoked with corncob pipes.

kids nowadays don't know how to solve problems.

WSS 

@jax said:

I'm 100% against the legalization, but if it is going to be legal then I absolutely think being able to grow your own few plants is how it should be.

Should we stop people from growing tomato’s indoors, or flowers? 

I know a person, who lives in suburban Cleveland, and he has a very big grow room. He doesn’t grow pot, he grows flowers and vegetables that he then transplants into his yard over the spring and summer. He’s been doing this for decades

Should he be stopped? Plants and vegetables are legal, just like pot is now

@calfoxwc said:

Just my opinion, I don't want it legalized at all, so I'm biased, yes?

You betcha, lol.

But voting on a bill doesn't take into consideration the complications that the left wants to be kept quiet, and there isn't enough money to put it all in a bunch of tv ads.

The implementation of the law requires complexity - it isn't a simple "yes" vote for pot.

No problem with a "yes" or "no" vote at all, that's what we do.

My point is the will of the people, educated or uneducated on the issue(s) voted, voted on the issue/proposed language. Our state "representatives" have no right to alter the will of the people, regardless of where we stand. 

You betcha, lol.

But voting on a bill doesn't take into consideration the complications that the left wants to be kept quiet, and there isn't enough money to put it all in a bunch of tv ads.

The implementation of the law requires complexity - it isn't a simple "yes" vote for pot.

but voting to grow at home - this stuff isn't in the bill - but it is seriously relevant:

• https://drthurstone.com › health-hazards-of-indoor-pot-grows

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• https://www.bustmold.com › blog › the-risks-of-marijuana-grow-houses

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@bob806 said:

Cal, just my opinion here.

The main reason it passed was the simple provision that people could grow their own, up to 6 plants. The new tweaks on this eliminate that. Why? 

Me thinks it's so the state gets it's hand$ on ALL the dough. 

Secondly, they want to up the taxed sales. That's not what the public voted on. 

It isn't a good look. 

The Browns go up 21-17 at the end of the 3rd Quarter, and tell the NFL "we won, no need to play the 4th Quarter." Change the rules in the middle of the game. Is that ok?

Govt BS at its finest.

“We didn’t want this, but the voters did, so let’s change it and piss people off”

@calfoxwc said:

actually, when I voted against it, it just said generally what the bill was about.

NOT all the provisions, if I recall correctly. So, all the intricacies were not

"voted on" by Ohioans.

But that is the left -

If you read the serious problems in Colorado, of course the Reps are doing the

RESPONSIBLE thing by adjusting the IMPLEMENTATION of the law that was approved.

You think anyone who is just a regular citizen that voted to approve the pot law read the entire document? come on.

Cal, just my opinion here.

The main reason it passed was the simple provision that people could grow their own, up to 6 plants. The new tweaks on this eliminate that. Why? 

Me thinks it's so the state gets it's hand$ on ALL the dough. 

Secondly, they want to up the taxed sales. That's not what the public voted on. 

It isn't a good look. 

The Browns go up 21-17 at the end of the 3rd Quarter, and tell the NFL "we won, no need to play the 4th Quarter." Change the rules in the middle of the game. Is that ok?

https://www.ohiosos.gov/globalassets/elections/2023/gen/issuesreport.pdf

@calfoxwc said:

actually, when I voted against it, it just said generally what the bill was about.

NOT all the provisions, if I recall correctly. So, all the intricacies were not

"voted on" by Ohioans.

But that is the left -

If you read the serious problems in Colorado, of course the Reps are doing the

RESPONSIBLE thing by adjusting the IMPLEMENTATION of the law that was approved.

You think anyone who is just a regular citizen that voted to approve the pot law read the entire document? come on.

All the intricacies were in the bill that passed. They just weren’t on the ballot. If they put all the details,  for every bill, on the ballot, the ballot would be 500 pages 

An informed voter, which is what both sides DO NOT WANT, is supposed to read the bill, then go vote on it. But I would guess 99.9% of people just vote on what they see in TV ads or the internet 

https://www.10tv.com/amp/article/news/politics/elections/ohio-issue-2-marijuana-legalization-2023-november-election/530-0e02c315-10a9-4a16-b6f3-e7c30808de26

@bob806 said:

Issue 2 potential changes

Ignoring the voters. Not a good look Ohio Rs.

Opinion piece

actually, when I voted against it, it just said generally what the bill was about.

NOT all the provisions, if I recall correctly. So, all the intricacies were not

"voted on" by Ohioans.

But that is the left -

If you read the serious problems in Colorado, of course the Reps are doing the

RESPONSIBLE thing by adjusting the IMPLEMENTATION of the law that was approved.

You think anyone who is just a regular citizen that voted to approve the pot law read the entire document? come on.

@bob806 said:

Issue 2 potential changes

Ignoring the voters. Not a good look Ohio Rs.

Opinion piece

Of course they want to change it. It wasn’t their idea, so it must be bad

what pro pot folks don't consider is the reality - the damage to society:

• https://www.colorado.edu › today › 2022 › 11 › 04 › decade-after-legalizing-cannabis-colorado-heres-what-weve-learned

  A decade after legalizing cannabis in Colorado, here's what we've ...

  Nov 4, 2022Ten years ago this week, Colorado voters approved Amendment 64, making the state among the first two in the nation (along with Washington) to legalize the use and possession of cannabis, a.k.a. marijuana, for recreational purposes. Since then, 19 states and the District of Columbia have followed suit.
• https://dcj.colorado.gov › news-article › colorado-division-of-criminal-justice-publishes-report-on-impacts-of-marijuana

  Colorado Division of Criminal Justice Publishes Report on Impacts of ...

  (July 19, 2021) - The Colorado Division of Criminal Justice's Office of Research and Statistics has published the latest " Impacts on Marijuana Legalization in Colorado " report, which presents data on marijuana-related topics including crime, impaired driving, hospitalizations, ER visits, usage rates, effects on youth, and more.
• https://www.westword.com › news › colorados-drug-problem-among-usas-worst-study-says-9107629

  Colorado Has One of USA's Worst Drug Problems, Study Says - Denver Westword

  A new study maintains that Colorado has the third most serious drug problem of any state, with the highest percentage of both teenage and adult drug users in the country. However, the...
• https://www.uchealth.org › today › marijuana-related-er-visits-rising-dramatically-edibles-spraking-particular-concerns

  Marijuana edibles spark concerns as related ER visits rise ... - UCHealth

  ER visits tied to marijuana have risen dramatically in Colorado since legalization and people using edibles suffered toxic reactions - including cardiac and psychiatric problems - at much higher rates than those smoking marijuana, according to a groundbreaking new study from researchers at the University

Ignoring the voters. Not a good look Ohio Rs.

Opinion piece

@mld-woody said:

They're very much linked

But then why do you think weed should be illegal?

Yes linked. So, you believe because one drug has harmful effects on society and self that it constitutes legalizing yet another drug that has harmful effects?

The more the merrier is your argument?

Amsterdam and the effects of pot smoking:

As Amsterdam bows out, what will be the new capital of cannabis tourism? (nationalgeographic.com)

Amsterdam-Cannabis banned:

Amsterdam bans cannabis in its red light district - BBC News

@westside-steve said:

I'm pretty much on the same page. I don't care about weed I just don't like having to work with guys that smoke it merely because it makes them stupid and they forget their parts. Same thing if a guy is drunk at the entire practice. But yes, it's going to pass with or without my vote. That's without any convoluted moral angles. Are we better off as Society with more and more ways for people to stay fucked up more and more of the time? And in the case of cigarettes sure, they're dangerous, but look at the money we make. And if I can't judge somebody's reaction to chronic pain how can I tell him that I'm doing him a favor by not allowing to have all the oxy he wants? But I digress. ?

WSS

Weed or Alcohol has never affected my ability to perform on stage and I never once forgot my parts... However... everyone is physiologically different

@diehardbrownsfan1 said:

Not if you lie on your application.

Like Hunter Biden did?

@jbluhm86 said:

Again, this was based on a statute that was just recently ruled unconstitutional. Unless and until the Supreme Court decides otherwise, it's legal to own a gun and while in possession of marijuana. 

Not if you lie on your application.