@syd said:

Dawand Jones did not practice again today

That's unfortunate. 

@syd said:

oh I just meant in general . If we have to joel can slide to tackle (was it in 21 when he played 2 games there ?) and nick can hold his own at guard

Yeah, I liked that you brought him up Syd.  I wasn't trying to put words in your mouth as much as I was thinking out loud in how many different ways he can help us. We can also line him outside of the Left Tackle further away from the QB (as either blocking TE/or extra linemen in an unbalanced line. I say this because some teams like to also blitz a LBer to the outside of their edge rusher.  We can also continue to line Nick up as a FB to chip the edge.  These are ways the Browns/Nick can help the backup LT position if he needs it.

@flugel said:

Nick Harris is only 6'1" so I'm guessing we won't see him filling in at Left Tackle

oh I just meant in general . If we have to joel can slide to tackle (was it in 21 when he played 2 games there ?) and nick can hold his own at guard

@syd said:

I looked for a article about the 9ers wanting to keep him. couldnt find it. thank god we still have nick harris and I forgot about leatherwood  (is he just a break glass if needed ?)

Nick Harris is only 6'1" so I'm guessing we won't see him filling in at Left Tackle. Where I could see him helping is lining up at FB even more frequently to chip the edge rusher across from the LT filling in. 

Another option the Browns have that we haven't seen them do yet this year - is to go with an unbalanced line where they can line up any offensive lineman they want to the left of the guy filling in at LT.  This could be a spot where they would consider using Harris unless they would still prefer a longer wing span to the left of the LT.  Last year, the Browns did an unbalanced line when Conklin got hurt early on at RT - I think they used Hance and Dunn as the 2 OL to the right of Wyatt Teller.  As short term as it was, it was an efficient formation for the Browns' situation at the time.

It'll be interesting to see what they do.

@gumby73 said:

kind of the same thing I was thinking on why AB would grab Leroy Watson from the 49'er PS..

Watson has Zero NFL snaps.... but gets 3 weeks on roster ahead of Alex Leatherwood?

Looks bigger than 260 lbs, if that's on a 6'5" frame

I looked for a article about the 9ers wanting to keep him. couldnt find it. thank god we still have nick harris and I forgot about leatherwood  (is he just a break glass if needed ?)

@syd said:

I dunno

kind of the same thing I was thinking on why AB would grab Leroy Watson from the 49'er PS..

Watson has Zero NFL snaps.... but gets 3 weeks on roster ahead of Alex Leatherwood?

Looks bigger than 260 lbs, if that's on a 6'5" frame

@gumby73 said:

any hope on getting Micheal Dunn back from IR ?

we lost him week 6 so maybe for the steeler game ? I dunno

@gumby73 said:

260 lbs playing Tackle ?  (re-weigh him ) 

 T Leroy Wilson coming from other teams PS gets 3 games on 53 man roster. (still could go gameday inactive)  

Another former Bill Callahan coached draftee at Washington.. T Geron Christian was also brought up today from PS

    https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2023/11/7/23950855/browns-roster-jed-wills-geron-christian

right on right on right on

Thanks Gumby  Man

@syd said:

anyone know about this guy ?

260 lbs playing Tackle ?  (re-weigh him ) 

 T Leroy Watson coming from other teams PS gets 3 games on 53 man roster. (still could go gameday inactive)  

Another former Bill Callahan coached draftee at Washington.. T Geron Christian was also brought up today from PS

    https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2023/11/7/23950855/browns-roster-jed-wills-geron-christian

any hope on getting Micheal Dunn back from IR ?

@dutch-oven said:

I won't lie, I'm not overly optimistic about this upcoming game in Baltimore.

Bad time to lose your starting LT, even if he was overwhelmingly mediocre. 

Coming off the home Zona shutout win.

You'd almost wish the schedule makers would have had Pittsburgh coming to our house this Week..

than, Travel to Baltimore the following week..

Hate these 2 opponents, somehow fell back to back in the middle of the Browns schedule only.. 

Huge 2 weeks, to hopefully split series  

@dutch-oven said:

I won't lie, I'm not overly optimistic about this upcoming game in Baltimore.

Bad time to lose your starting LT, even if he was overwhelmingly mediocre. 

Seattle was optimistic about playing Baltimore until after opening kickoff.  Right now, Baltimore and Kansas City have dominating defenses nobody is talking about.  That sucks; because that fuels their "we're not getting any respect" unit-wide performance incentive.  Patience and a lack of carelessness can go a long way to staying in the game too long for Baltimore's comfort.  The Offensive Line has to bring their A game. All that said, Baltimore's OL has allowed them to be balanced.  Pittsburgh beat them without their offense playing Santa Claus to Baltimore's Defense. Something as little as ball security should be getting attention all week in practice.  Don't say we need it - practice the fundamentals.  Actions speak louder than words up against a team that has 1 guy in every gang tackle attempting to pry the football loose.

About Wills.  After a decent rookie year, it's always been the lack of effort/focus that bothered me about Wills.  It started with a sprained ankle; so I cut him some slack when I wasn't seeing the same guy at first.  Unfortunately, I've never seen the same guy I saw as a rookie again.  Yeah, we can say we're missing a starter - but has he played like an irreplaceable Left Tackle or has he continued to start because he was a 10th overall pick?  Benching him means the FO failed for all to see; so there's been very little effort to get him competition IMO.  I could be wrong about that.  Even if just  a coincidence the Browns signed an OT last week.  If he's a Left Tackle, we could actually see a guy named Watson protecting Deshaun Watson's blind side. My guess is it will be someone that's been here like Hudson. Whoever it is, the Browns will probably use a TE to help the backup LT as well as RBs/Nick Harris to lead block inside or chip the edge.  Depending on the matchups, they've had to do this with/for Wills as well. 

@flugel said:

? Why you gotta kill my excitement with the bad opponent stuff?   I wasn't trying to be logical.  I was just trying to be the 1st syllable of fantastic.

All kidding aside, he's actually made plays in other games.  Unfortunately I do confess I haven't paid good enough attention to his consistency.   Prior to this year, I haven't seen this from him.

The Rats will battle-test him and the entire front 6 or 7 again this Sunday. 

I won't lie, I'm not overly optimistic about this upcoming game in Baltimore.

Bad time to lose your starting LT, even if he was overwhelmingly mediocre. 

@blitzz2 said:

Real test will be this week. Hopefully the D can ride this momentum into Baltimore. 

I rode the Browns in to the weekend win of my FFL, but I will not be dumb enough to attempt a repeat in Baltimore.

@tiamat63 said:

Don't get too ahead of yourselves on Jordan. Having a good game, against a shitty Oline, isn't anything to write home about.  He has still been very up and down against most of the teams we've faced this season. 

Would it be nice if he turned a corner and became the player the front office envisioned when they drafted him? Absolutely.  But he's also on a contract year, and that gives me some hesitation. 

? Why you gotta kill my excitement with the bad opponent stuff?   I wasn't trying to be logical.  I was just trying to be the 1st syllable of fantastic.

All kidding aside, he's actually made plays in other games.  Unfortunately I do confess I haven't paid good enough attention to his consistency.   Prior to this year, I haven't seen this from him.

The Rats will battle-test him and the entire front 6 or 7 again this Sunday. 

@neo said:

Just look at all the adversity Steph has had to deal with this year and we are still 5-3. Coaches deserve a ton of credit 

I'm totally with you. Loved the little things, like slowly working Watson into the game. We were all probably a bit shaky on him, then he takes a couple hits, fires that ball down the sidelines to Cooper, and then had a nice little drive before half to get that FG, and that sets us up for a double-up opportunity after half...the kind of things good teams do. 

Furthermore, how about the little fake - end around wrinkle that we ran twice for probably 30 yards? The crowded backfield on Hunt's td run was also cool. Nothing fancy, just putting Nick Harris in at FB and throwing a wall of beef at the defense. It worked. 

Lots of items to talk about, but I thought coach was excellent on nearly everything. Let's do it again next week against probably the best team in the league. Time to make a statement. 

@flugel said:

Absolutely Neo. It just jumps out at us how much DT position has been upgraded with Tomlinson, Harris and Hurst.  

If that's not enough, look at the game Jordan Elliott had to show us why Schwartz still has plans for him too.  I don't ever remember seeing Elliott perform at the level he played at yesterday.  

The Browns and us fans really needed a win like this.  Fun day!!!

Don't get too ahead of yourselves on Jordan. Having a good game, against a shitty Oline, isn't anything to write home about.  He has still been very up and down against most of the teams we've faced this season. 

Would it be nice if he turned a corner and became the player the front office envisioned when they drafted him? Absolutely.  But he's also on a contract year, and that gives me some hesitation. 

@neo said:

Dalvin Tomlinson is an animal, and the other guys aren't bad too.

Absolutely Neo. It just jumps out at us how much DT position has been upgraded with Tomlinson, Harris and Hurst.  

If that's not enough, look at the game Jordan Elliott had to show us why Schwartz still has plans for him too.  I don't ever remember seeing Elliott perform at the level he played at yesterday.  

The Browns and us fans really needed a win like this.  Fun day!!!

@mjp28 said:

27 to 0.   

I seem to remember back in 1964 the Browns also beat the Baltimore Colts by a score of 27-0.   

Not just pitching a shutout, but holding the Cardinals to under 100 total yards of offense.... 

But before we get all giddy... That (according to NFL.com) was the bottom of the barrel #32 team in the power rankings, and in the pole position for the #1 pick in the NFL draft. For good reason after that non performance.  The upcoming game on the road against the Ratbirds will be a sterner test. 

I was at the game too, so I haven't had time yet to watch the tape.  If Wills is done for the year, we're getting mighty thin on the o-line.  ? 

@syd said:

kinda funny that the loser fucks who hate D.W are not here. After a victory

He was pretty bad on the short throws but pretty good on the long ones. Everybody should be glad he’s back over walker or DTR, we need him to make a run