@orion said:

I'm looking at these numbers and I'm trying to figure out how the Steelers are 6-3.  They rank in the bottom 10 in every category.....except takeaways.  So....I guess teams GIVE them wins.  

This is where our running game and passing game ranked in Mid November.  Running game ranked 3rd passing game ranked 29th.  Before this, I reposted the Mid-October Tale of the Tape that showed the Browns running game only ranked 16th while the passing game ranked 32nd at the time.  

Why all that?  Because our running game eventually got itself all the way up to a #2 ranking between November 15th and today.  I say that because I think there's a lot of unfair criticism aimed at the RBs trying to make the best of an interior offensive line that only had 1 starter remaining in the lineup last week and just 2 starters left the 2-3 games before that.  Do they make mistakes?  Of course.  That said, the numbers reflect the running game has been more reliable than the passing game for much of the season.  The record shows we CAN win with the Backs we have while Chubb has been out.  Our biggest concern on offense is the health of the OL right now.  I'm hoping we can get Pocic and Bitonio back out there soon. 

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It's hard to have much confidence when you have to start a rookie 5th round pick at QB against the Steelers.

Pittsburgh Steelers
Player                                   Injury    Wed 11/15    Thu 11/16    Fri 11/17    Game Status
Montravius Adams, DT    Ankle    DNP    DNP    DNP    (11/17) Out @ Cle
Minkah Fitzpatrick, DB    Hamstring    DNP    DNP    DNP    (11/17) Out @ Cle
Pat Freiermuth, TE    Hamstring    Limited    Full    Full    (11/17) Questionable @ Cle
Cameron Heyward, DT    Groin    DNP    Limited    Limited    --
Diontae Johnson, WR    Thumb    DNP    Full    Full    --
Keanu Neal, DB    Rib    DNP    DNP    DNP    (11/17) Out @ Cle
Patrick Peterson, DB    Not Injury Related - Resting Player    DNP    --    --    --
Isaac Seumalo, OG    Not Injury Related - Resting Player    DNP    --    --    --

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Standings - Detailed View
AFC NORTH    W    L    T    PCT      PF      PA   Net Pts  Home      Road           Div            Pct        Conf          Pct       Non-Conf    Strk    Last 5

Baltimore Ravens
                         8    3    0    0.727    304    177    127    4 - 2 - 0    4 - 1 - 0     3 - 2 - 0    0.600    5 - 3 - 0    0.625    3 - 0 - 0    1W    4 - 1 - 0

Pittsburgh Steelers
                        6    3    0    0.667    156    182    -26     4 - 2 - 0    2 - 1 - 0     2 - 0 - 0    1.000    4 - 2 - 0    0.667    2 - 1 - 0    2W    4 - 1 - 0

Cleveland Browns
                        6    3    0    0.667    214    170     44     4 - 1 - 0     2 - 2 - 0     2 - 2 - 0    0.500    4 - 2 - 0    0.667    2 - 1 - 0    2W    4 - 1 - 0

So, we're 2-2 in the division.  The Steelers are 2-0.   And the Ravens  3-2.   We have to feed the Steelers a division loss.  

@dick-mellon said:

I would rather see Watson, who is 0-3 against PIT.

Steelers are a bad team.  They pull wins out of their ass and get help from the officials.

I expect CLE to win this one.

Well, Mr. Mellon, I expect the Browns to win also. But whenever I get a strong feeling about a Browns game one way or the other, I'm usually dead wrong.  

Now regarding your Steelers, I agree they're doing it with smoke and mirrors- and turnovers at exactly the right time. Watson throwing a pick six on the first play is a good example, as well as last week Love tossing an ill advised pass into the end zone for an interception when they were driving for the winning score.  

As to our Browns, I commend Stefanski for starting DTR over PJ Walker- who is one inaccurate, 1 td to 5 interceptions gawdawful qb. Tries hard, but what would you expect from an XFL practice squad quarterback? Dorian had a horrendous game against the Ravens, but he had 2 hours to get ready for that game after running the scout team all week.  He was impressive enough in preseason to convince Andrew Berry that Josh Dobbs was expendable. The good news on our side is Dawand Jones says he's healthy enough to play RT, he's on an upswing getting tutelage from the best OL coach in the business Callahan. We certainly won't miss not seeing Minkah Fitzpatrick out there either.    

So, from my POV the outcome is pretty clear... The team that wins the turnover battle will come out on top. 

PS- even should the Steelers lose, they're far from out of it making the playoffs. You still have two games on tap against the Bengals, minus Joe Burrow. For any of us MHO the division is out of reach, short of Lamar Jackson breaking his leg. 

But it’s a divisional game against the Steelers so, all bets are off.

@tiamat63 said:

I haven't seen an invite to go up the middle like that since I had the entire varsity cheerleadering squad over at our Halloween party. 

Starting DBs out. 

Adams out. 

Mini Iron Head with a groin strain. 

 I haven't seen an invite to go up the middle like that since I had the entire varsity cheerleadering squad over at our Halloween party. 

@korsou-dawg said:

Considering all the fouls Hudson commits, this improves our odds considerably:

Browns RT Dawand Jones: ‘I’m good to go’ vs. Steelers

I knew I could count on KD to bring us some good news!

Having said that, the last time the Browns played Pittsburgh it looked like he had so much to learn in pass pro.  On the other hand, Bill Callahan is our OL Coach and Jones was talented enough to be an All American (which means he was moldable clay for an elite OL Coach).

Steelers are a bad team.  They pull wins out of their ass and get help from the officials.

I expect CLE to win this one.

@dutch-oven said:

Ran into a guy who is a Steelers season ticket holder today and he mentioned that the Steelers have two linebackers and both safeties out for this game too. 

Callahan/ Stef & Van Pelt, need a better plan of moving DTR than they did vs the Rats.

DT Montravius Adams whom replaced Cam Hayward is now out. We won't be lucky to miss Cam Hayward (groin) playing in this game. Wisconsin Rookie K. Benton played more snaps than Adams did in week 3       

He's Correct..

No. 31 S Keanu Neal (Rib) - Out
No. 39 S Minkah Fitzpatrick (Hamstring) - Out
No. 57 DT Montravius Adams (Ankle) - Out
No. 88 TE Pat Freiermuth * (Hamstring) - Questionable

Browns RT Dawand Jones: ‘I’m good to go’ vs. Steelers

@syd said:

LOL.  I have no fucking idea 

I feel ya Syd syd bo byd

@ibleedbrown said:

I have absolutely no idea why this happens, but every time l see this guy’s name, Minkah, l get a wild compulsion to do the name game song.

Minkah minkah bo binkah, banana fana fo finkah…

It’s not as fun as Chuck, but few names are. 

LOL.  I have no fucking idea 

@syd said:

Minkah Fitzpatrick

Charles LeClaire-USA TODAY Sports

Did not practice (hamstring)

Game status: OUT

I have absolutely no idea why this happens, but every time l see this guy’s name, Minkah, l get a wild compulsion to do the name game song.

Minkah minkah bo binkah, banana fana fo finkah…

It’s not as fun as Chuck, but few names are. 

Did not practice (hamstring)

Game status: OUT

@texasag1969 said:

Is that Italian for the month of June??

 In Italian its "U know".. In Spanish its Juneau!

@ibleedbrown said:

Juneau that’s right! 

Is that Italian for the month of June??

@orion said:

Alaska will be watching.  Lets win one for the Alaskan Browns fans!

Juneau that’s right! 

@texasag1969 said:

Apparently the Gulf Coast no longer includes the Country of Texas in sea to shining sea. Should I stop paying US Income taxes or at least find a way to devalue my property like some unknown persons have done? LOL!?

Absolutely. Stick it to the man!

@ibleedbrown said:

Looks like we get the Browns v. Pittsburg game from sea to shining sea, as it should be.

Apparently the Gulf Coast no longer includes the Country of Texas in sea to shining sea. Should I stop paying US Income taxes or at least find a way to devalue my property like some unknown persons have done? LOL!?

https://506sports.com/nfl.php?yr=2023&wk=11

There are notable omissions in states where people ski a lot, states that grow a lotta citrus, that state where everything is bigger, and Tennessee. 

Bad pick up line: hey baby, you must be from Memphis, cuz you’re the only ten I see…

Most of New Mexico gets to see the Browns game. New Mexicans love the Browns. Some of the old ones do too.