@orion said:

So, what happened?

The Bears #2 ranked Defense in the league held us to 29 yards rushing.  This forced us to pass, which we did to the tune of 350ish yards.  Most of them very hard earned as their pass rush was successful against our offensive line of backups, backups to the backups, and Wyatt Teller.  

Our Defense held the Bears to 88 yards rushing and 148 passing.  Great job by the Defense, who was playing with more than their share of backups and backups to the backups.  

And, of course, in that final category...we fed them the ball.  Once resulting in a TD and another, 1 yard short of a TD.  

@bbedward said:

that TD to cooper was the tightest window imaginable with 3 guys closing in

A Thing of Beauty

Hope Bitonio and Pocic can be back next week.

Flacco was threading some stupid windows, that TD to cooper was the tightest window imaginable with 3 guys closing in. That man is fearless.

@orion said:

...he was just an instant late with the throw.

looked more like 2 or 3 or even 4 instant's to late

@syd said:

the only pic i didnt get was the one after the muffed punt,the other two were on the receivers

...he was just an instant late with the throw.

@ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:

The guy has game, the team has game. The injuries exposed that some of our bench players are rock stars.

THIS is a team to be proud of.

The real leaders on this team like Myles, Joel, Joe, Amari, etc. have these guys all believing they will play all world when their number comes up. So that's exactly what they do.

@ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:

The guy has game, the team has game. The injuries exposed that some of our bench players are rock stars.

THIS is a team to be proud of.

Fucking A Right They  Are

@ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:

Love the Browns. Flacco is the shit.

the only pic i didnt get was the one after the muffed punt,the other two were on the receivers

@orion said:

There'll be plenty of time for that.  But I'll say this about the draft...What position is off limits?    -  BPA

Honestly, none. 

There would be a lot of "in a perfect world" situations, but BPA never is a bad idea. 

@dutch-oven said:

makes me want to start to "lightly" talk draft

There'll be plenty of time for that.  But I'll say this about the draft...What position is off limits?    -  BPA

@bbedward said:

Let the FO worry about the scouting, Flacco has a revenge tour Super Bowl to win.

I think it was important Dutch brought it up considering the 1 thing that could possibly intercept Flacco's Revenge Tour.  It's a great story we all like; but we're only 1 or 2 more injuries up front from Flacco feeling like he's playing for the Jets again.

@dutch-oven said:

That list makes me want to start to "lightly" talk draft, and how we need to invest in the OLine and DLine, and add another RB. 

Think about how many of the players of those groups are getting up there in years. 

I hear ya Dutch!  Since we're heading into Bowl Season - it's pretty good timing to be thinking like that.  It's a good way to stay indoors and avoid the snow flakes except for the few that trickle in here for reasons unknown...  

I agree with your needs assessment. 1 piggyback here - I'd ADORE a game changing Safety like Ratville always seems to have.  Sometimes Ed Reed and Kyle Hamilton just had better chemistry with our QBs than our Receivers.  If I had to guess, Ed Reed got so fond of the generous gifts he probably invited Kelly Holcomb to his wedding.  That's probably a huge exaggeration on my part; but it's a good way to release nervous energy while my human sized Hamster wheel is in the repair shop.

Last but not least, your buddy Flugel's college Cortland just won the Division III National Championship yesterday.  That was their 1st and only football championship. On the map, that's about 30 miles south of Syracuse and 20 miles East of Nowhere.

@dutch-oven said:

Think about how many of the players of those groups are getting up there in years. 

Still thinking the use of WR/PR Jakeem Grant Sr. was a big early loss too..

Two from the other dept. to consider?

Might have Rode with QB PJ Walker & PK Cade York to long?

this teams battles with next man up is way underrated from big media

@flugel said:

Here's who it's looking like will be/remain out for this week:

RT Jack Conklin, RT Dawand Jones

C Ethan Pocic

LT Jedrick Wills

QB Deshaun Watson

RB Nick Chubb

DT Maurice Hurst, DT Jordan Elliott

DE Ogbo Okoronkwo

LB Jordan Kunaszyk

S Grant Delpit

FS Juan Thornhill

Meanwhile, Myles Garrett is playing with only 1 healthy shoulder; and there's no guarantee Denzel Ward is ready to play just yet. 

That's a lot to overcome but this team is 8-5 with this unfolding all season.

Like usual, let's see what happens... 

That list makes me want to start to "lightly" talk draft, and how we need to invest in the OLine and DLine, and add another RB. 

Think about how many of the players of those groups are getting up there in years. 

@flugel said:

Here's who it's looking like will be/remain out for this week:

RT Jack Conklin, RT Dawand Jones

C Ethan Pocic

LT Jedrick Wills

QB Deshaun Watson

RB Nick Chubb

DT Maurice Hurst, DT Jordan Elliott

DE Ogbo Okoronkwo

LB Jordan Kunaszyk

S Grant Delpit

FS Juan Thornhill

Meanwhile, Myles Garrett is playing with only 1 healthy shoulder; and there's no guarantee Denzel Ward is ready to play just yet. 

That's a lot to overcome but this team is 8-5 with this unfolding all season.

Like usual, let's see what happens... 

Not sure in garrets shoulder, he’s banged up but I don’t think he’ll need any surgery or anything. Seems like he can move it fine maybe just has some pain or something. Ward practicing for the second week in a row I’d be very surprised if he’s out again 

I’m actually pretty confident Thornhill and Duran Harman and the other guys can give us adequate safety play, just need Thornhill to get damn healthy. I feel like Harman can give us similar to what McLeod gave us, but we’ll have to see…

And at least some of those guys aren’t season ending like Pocic and Elliot, slight bright side. I hope Walker is good news though and we didn’t have another guy tear a knee ligament in practice. 

@dutch-oven said:

Saw something today that something like 24% of our Opening Week roster has suffered season-ending injuries.

We still have four regular season games to go. 

Here's who it's looking like will be/remain out for this week:

RT Jack Conklin, RT Dawand Jones

C Ethan Pocic

LT Jedrick Wills

QB Deshaun Watson

RB Nick Chubb

DT Maurice Hurst, DT Jordan Elliott

DE Ogbo Okoronkwo

LB Jordan Kunaszyk

S Grant Delpit

FS Juan Thornhill

Meanwhile, Myles Garrett is playing with only 1 healthy shoulder; and there's no guarantee Denzel Ward is ready to play just yet. 

That's a lot to overcome but this team is 8-5 with this unfolding all season.

Like usual, let's see what happens... 

@dutch-oven said:

Saw something today that something like 24% of our Opening Week roster has suffered season-ending injuries.

We still have four regular season games to go. 

We currently have 11 guys on IR.  With Drew Forbes,  Reserve / Non- Football Illness.  And Michael Woods II,  Reserve / Non-Football Injury.  So, that's 13...which is 24.5% of the guys that can suit up.  Heck, we've got starters AND their backup on IR.  Let's face it, football is not made for guys with human bodies.  

And so back to the pads for a moment......I'm certain there's been improvement to the equipment over the years.  But how much of the improvement is meant more to enhance the abilities of the player while sacrificing protection?  To make the player more elusive and harder to grab?  To give the player more and easier range of motion for catching and throwing?  -  Just sayin'...

@syd said:

We still have four regular season games to go. 

Walker hurt his knee in practice, last time we heard that it was big thanos with a torn MCL. Hopefully not that

• DT Jordan Elliott - Concussion - Questionable
• LB Jordan Kunaszyk - Calf - Out
• DE Ogbonnia Okoronkwo - Pectoral - Out
• OL Ethan Pocic - Stinger - Out
• S Juan Thornhill - Calf - Out
• LB Anthony Walker - Rest, Knee - Questionable
• CB Denzel Ward - Shoulder - Questionable

Given all the players already on injured reserve, if Elliott, Walker and Ward can’t play as well, Cleveland’s snap counts will be high all around.

Bears Injury Report

• DB Jaquan Brisker - Groin - Questionable
• WR DJ Moore - Ankle - Questionable
• LB Noah Sewell - Knee - Out
• WR Equanimeous St. Brown - Pectoral - Out

Two very important players listed as questionable for Chicago in Brisker and Moore. Missing the game, Brown is a starter and Sewell is a depth piece for the team.

...Three out on D.  Denzel is probably on the frail side still.  And we're so beat up on D we NEED Jordan Elliott to play.  We've GOT to get RB's tackled. 

@orion said:

Notice the protective pads they wore.   Now, more games and less protection.  And the beautiful helmets we used to have....before the Haslems got their meddling hands on them.

And how often do we see the football pants even covering the knees any more?

@bob806 said:

Fields is the key. Contain him, don't let DJ Moore slip open too many times. The Bears will make a few plays (hope not).

The Browns need this one real bad. Once again, injuries are a huge obstacle. The home crowd has to get involved like last week, it was a blast down there. 

Precisely Bob!   Without looking, I'm pretty sure Fields is their leading rusher.  He's pretty dangerous when he runs the ball.  That said, he's also very sloppy with ball security when he does so.  The last time I saw him play he fumbled the ball away on decent runs on successive possessions.

If post season is the goal, there is no margin of error remaining on the wins and losses.  Every game left should be played like there's no tomorrow if the Browns lose.