@inspecta said:

It is factual. I gave the name of the only guy on Quinn's offense that didn't get a sniff from the NFL.

Here's the deal. Start naming college offensive units that can say 10 or more of their 11 starters were drafted, signed free agent contracts, or turned down the NFL draft...

Man are you going to have to do some research. Heck, has any D-1 team ever had ALL of their starting unit get serious NFL sniffs? It doesn't matter whether or not they became superstars or impact players in the NFL, even the honey of the team, Brady Quinn, hasn't done that. The fact of the matter is, once you get beyond the first few draft picks, there's a heck of a lot of parity in the draft and there's little separating the remaining players that are drafted... their success often depends more on situations with a team's needs more than their position in the draft.

... most college teams are lucky to get a few players get a sniff from an NFL team in any one year.

@atenears said:

LOL! Now why did you replace the hotties with Sling Blade under your screen name? Speaking of which, if he heard you talkin about Quinn he'd say: "Leave the boy alone!"

- Tom F.

@lumbergh said:

Oh man what kind of shitty college offense only has 9 NFL players on it?

you want 11 Hall of Famers before you admit his team was stacked?

your data shits on your conclusion.

Where in gods green earth do you get 9 NFL players?

2 of those 9 aren't on rosters today and 1 isn't even on the active roster.

How many skill positions do you see in that list? Not exactly shitting on my conclusion, since my conclusion was "Not exactly a whose who of offensive players from ND that got drafted, let alone making a major offensive impact in the NFL."

He also didn't have each guy for every year at ND. Notice most are OL.

Masters said:

2005 NFL Draft

Jerome Collins TE - RD5 (hasn't played a down in the NFL)

Ryan Grant RB - UDFA (starting RB for GB)

2006 NFL Draft

Anthony Fasano TE - RD2 (starting TE for MIA)

Maurice Stovall WR - RD3 (3rd/4th WR for TB, 21 career receptions)

Dan Stevenson G - RD6 (not on any teams active roster)

2007 NFL Draft

Brady Quinn QB - RD1

Ryan Harris OT - RD3 (on DEN roster - not listed on depth chart)

Dan Santucci G - RD7 (on CIN roster - on IR)

2008 NFL Draft

John Carlson TE - RD2 (starting TE for SEA)

John Sullivan C - RD6 (starting C for MIN)

Not exactly a whose who of offensive players from ND that got drafted, let alone making a major offensive impact in the NFL. Note there is only 1 skill position player in that list starting in the NFL.

he ONLY played with 4 current NFL starters on his offense in college?

Oh man what kind of shitty college offense only has 9 NFL players on it?

you want 11 Hall of Famers before you admit his team was stacked?

your data shits on your conclusion.

@lumbergh said:

Isn't 7:30 AM PT a tad early to be angry, Lummy?

@riffer-x said:

admit you're a homo and that's why you want Quinn to play

2005 NFL Draft

Jerome Collins TE - RD5 (hasn't played a down in the NFL)

Ryan Grant RB - UDFA (starting RB for GB)

2006 NFL Draft

Anthony Fasano TE - RD2 (starting TE for MIA)

Maurice Stovall WR - RD3 (3rd/4th WR for TB, 21 career receptions)

Dan Stevenson G - RD6 (not on any teams active roster)

2007 NFL Draft

Brady Quinn QB - RD1

Ryan Harris OT - RD3 (on DEN roster - not listed on depth chart)

Dan Santucci G - RD7 (on CIN roster - on IR)

2008 NFL Draft

John Carlson TE - RD2 (starting TE for SEA)

John Sullivan C - RD6 (starting C for MIN)

Not exactly a whose who of offensive players from ND that got drafted, let alone making a major offensive impact in the NFL. Note there is only 1 skill position player in that list starting in the NFL.

@drunkandstoopid said:

I just looked up the Notre Dame offensive starters from 2006... (Michigan game, I figure a game against #4 is important enough they'd play their best guys..)

5 drafted into the NFL, 2 signed free agent contracts with NFL teams, 2 projected NFL draftees announced ahead of time they'd pass (1 to baseball, 1 to the ministry) 1 still playing and is on Outland Trophy watchlist and is a draft prospect... That leaves Ashley McConnell as the ONLY Quinn starting teammate on offense that hasn't garnered NFL interest.

Notre Dame's O was loaded that year.

I'm continually amazed that you bring this topic back up about twice a week.

Is there anything else we can do for you?

88fingerslewy said:

He's a first round pick. Ya I know he did a free-fall at the draft but after the fish took Ginn, there wasn't anyone for a dozen picks who needed a QB. And if he sucked so bad, how did he set so many records with weak teams at ND.

I'm continually amazed at the posters here who continue to repeat the falsehood that Quinn was playing with weak Notre Dame teams.

I just looked up the Notre Dame offensive starters from 2006... (Michigan game, I figure a game against #4 is important enough they'd play their best guys..)

5 drafted into the NFL, 2 signed free agent contracts with NFL teams, 2 projected NFL draftees announced ahead of time they'd pass (1 to baseball, 1 to the ministry) 1 still playing and is on Outland Trophy watchlist and is a draft prospect... That leaves Ashley McConnell as the ONLY Quinn starting teammate on offense that hasn't garnered NFL interest.

Notre Dame's O was loaded that year.

@riffer-x said:

You're so full of shit it's ridiculous. Last year you bitched people out constantly for bashing DA, and then would bring up Lewis, the defense, Braylons, etc. in defense of DA. Yes you did. You wanted everybody to bitch about everything else but DA, now you want everybody to bitch about Quinn. Jeebus Cripes da ich tinks you be wishy washy often an regular or sumtin...

I got news for you, that game Quinn had that you act like is the worst QB performance in NFL history is nothing compared to some of the shitfests thrown by DA after numerous starts. Had you posted at all the last seven months you may be a little more enlightened on things rather than playing da ich card of selective memory.

Why are you always trying to tell people what they can post about anyway? Big Bad Stan gonna lay down the law if he don't agree with it...........we get it, you want us all to just foam at the mouth and berate the QB and the team because they lost to the Vikes (who for some reason you don't understand are a damn good team----insert blatant exaggerated claims of Purple People Eater Dynasty here), but I don't understand why you feel the need to tell the board what they can and should talk about.

Shame on any of us gayfag fans out here who don't throw the team and the QB under the bus after one game of a new regime and new starter. Satn will set us straight.

Got news for you, while you were on a 7 month vacation we were busy here talking Browns football, moderating, dissecting the team, keeping the board hopping etc. Some of us are not ready to throw a complete hissy fit and proclaim the season over, Brady Queen a lost cause and overlook some of the good things we saw last week. We actually choose to have a little faith in a team going through major changes and looking like maybe somebody knows what they're doing.

Boy I can't wait to see what this post rates on Satn's fagometer.

Fag.

@riffer-x said:

Killin two birds with one stone.

And he is Ohio-Born and played for Notre Dame. How dreamy!

@shepwrite said:

OMG! LOL....that is bad.

Killin two birds with one stone.

@shepwrite said:

He is SUCH a great kid!

- Tom F.

88fingerslewy said:

I Heart Boobs!!!!

off topic isn't so bad some times.

Zombo said:

Zombo

My bad, I was counting the Pro Bowl loss and the time he lost his girlfriend to me.

Zombo said:

Zombo

Seriously? People weren't saying jack about DA until certain people (who happen to be vocal supporters of DA) were trashing Quinn after one game. But you go ahead and focus on the responses rather than the initial start...

@jadbf said:

He didn't say "support the team", he said, "Let's give Brady Quinn 10 games" and I responded that I've purchased my tickets, as if 'I wasn't going anywhere', wasn't presenting an ultimatium like some fags that either Quinn goes or I go. I was stating that I'm here through thick or thin and will be here every step of Baby Quinns way ... you fucking Retard.

@jadbf said:

Exactly, you don't actually listen to what other people say, you just lump them into little categories that suit your needs.

See above.

@jadbf said:

Except we aren't blaming the rest of the team like you guys did.

Crying about his "cockpit".

Ok, fine ... all players in the NFL are equal. Now, using this new logic, let's discuss the 10-7 record with Derek Anderson at the helm in 2007. He whipped the leagues best each and every game, right?

@inspecta said:

Just.....wow....

I didnt get any really good weed. Who do I give my address to?

@riffer-x said:

I can forgive stupid takes after a 7 month sabbatical for a shot of that.

I had no idea the Raiders even had cowboy hats, but I bet that bitch looked kickass on Satn though.

Any jean shorts and cowboy boots to go with?

Unfortunately I think skippy had all the photo evidence of the Raiders cowboy hat destroyed. The best part was the Raiders jammies as well, and the fact that the easter bunny brought them and all was right in the world is how the quote went as I remember it.

And no I'm not making any of that shit up...