@orion said:

A real bad injury.  Multiple surgeries for it.  Give him all the time he needs.  If we could have him for a playoff push, that'd be great.

And to add, the recover and rehab take about a year but the operations didn't happen until Oct and again in Nov.  The recover and rehab doesn't start with the injury.  It starts after the operation.  You don't sustain an injury like that and get operated on the next day.

@syd said:

opting instead to sign Treyton Welch as an undrafted free agent.

DBN: With the high amount of success you had in high school as a pass catcher, then at Wyoming the run game was prevalent and you weren’t getting the ball, why didn’t you consider entering the portal and going to a program that would use your pass-catching abilities?

Welch: That was given some thought, but when I signed my name with Wyoming and their coaches, I made a promise to play for their school, which became my school. I could not go back on that agreement. I was not getting the catches I wanted, but that is what I signed up for. They took me on and gave me an education, and asked that I play for them for four years and I had to stick to that.

DBN: You are a high-character guy. Why is that important?

Welch: You have to do what you say you are doing to do, and commit your time and resources to the task at hand. I want to be the person off the field that everyone knows what I am capable of, and will do what’s right to my abilities. We are on this earth to do good things and fill needs in life. God wants us to be good people.

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.....it would be nice to see the guy that wears the white hat succeed once in a while.   

@vambo said:

Thanks Vambo!  Nobody bends steel like Nick Chubb!  If anyone can come back from an injury like that - it's him.  

A batman sighting - Nick Chubb on the practice field Tuesday

Cleveland wraps up the voluntary portion of the offseason this week with practice through Thursday of this week. Attendance becomes mandatory for the final phase of the offseason, which is veteran minicamp running from June 11 through June 13. (Greenbriar, W.V)

Cleveland is just 96 short days away from kicking off the 2024 season with the Dallas Cowboys in Week One on September 8th.

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Good Luck, Nick Chubb ! 

As a 56yr old who has had many injuries and subsequent surgeries in my younger years as a motocross racer and now lives with the consequences on a daily basis, I hope the current Nick thinks a lot more about the future Nick because he is going to pay for it, like it or not.

While I selfishly want to see him back on the field, I really hope he has someone in his corner preaching about the big picture and what really matters in this life and football ain't it.

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@neo said:

He's at the age where rb's start losing a step. Plus he's coming off a major injury. I'm hoping he can return to form. I'm still pissed that the injury happened at all.

We all feel the same.. Would've loved to have seen what Flacco could've been like with that kind of asset protecting him... Now that's just a dream flown bye... I just hope Chubb can run at all.. ?

@bob806 said:

https://sports.yahoo.com/nick-chubb-agrees-lower-salary-122837423.html

Great news....Browns & Chubb sign a deal, although it's only a 1 year deal. Reduced salary with incentives.

Hopefully he can return to form & stay longer. 

He's at the age where rb's start losing a step. Plus he's coming off a major injury. I'm hoping he can return to form. I'm still pissed that the injury happened at all.

Great news....Browns & Chubb sign a deal, although it's only a 1 year deal. Reduced salary with incentives.

Hopefully he can return to form & stay longer. 

@gumby73 said:

won't be much...NFLPA hammers HIPAA privacy rules on players.. Nick Chubb himself/agent, shouldn't release his medical info

Sadly, Most roster projections have Nick listed as going on reserve/PUP list to start the 2024 season. If so, Player must miss first 4 games of season at minimum.

Nick's injury report has been confirmed by everyone but Nick Chubb's medical staff. have read Multiple Reads like...

Chubb underwent surgery on Sept. 29 to repair his medial collaterial ligament, meniscus and medial capsule, the team confirmed Sept. 30 in a statement. Chubb also had a second surgery on Nov. 14th to repair his anterior cruciate ligament, the Browns said.

(MCL & ACL) and some still think full dislocation of left knee? (NFL/media former team Dr. Chao of Chargers)

No timeline, but Browns "on track" has been determined for his return. The Browns said early estimated recovery times suggest Chubb will be able to play "at some point" next season. (wonder where our bye week falls?)

?  ?   Good luck, 2-4 !

edit-- today's Dawand Jones injury update https://247sports.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/longformarticle/cleveland-browns-dawand-jones-229034010/#2390776

Good to see Stefanski enthusiastic about the expectation for Jones, Conklin and Wills being ready to compete for starting jobs at the start of training camp.  Great news!

That dudn't mean this team won't have an eye on OL prospects that have played both OT and OG given our situation.  K-State's Cooper Beebe has played LT, RT, LG, and RG so whoever does their diligence researching OL prospects may land this gem.  The 1 hurdle this 6-3 322 pound trench warrior would have to clear for consideration at LT would be his arm length of 31 1/2" (in comparison our RT Dawand Jones has an arm length of 36 3/8" and LT Jed Wills has an arm length of 34 1/4"). His lateral movement gets mentioned by some (not all) with me thinking a lot of this is when you play OT there's a lot of space on 1 side of you.  At OG, there's limited space on both sides of you - making your pass pro assignment easier. When you move from 1 spot to the other - there's a little curve for getting acclimated/reacclimated). 1 thing that never gets mentioned is the importance of a consistent pre-snap stance that sets up your leverage/success from the hips down (your base).   Wills has remained very inconsistent with getting into an ideal pre-snap stance despite having a great OL Coach like Callahan. This is why I've questioned how hard he's worked at things at times.  From my limited observation, Beebe seems pretty consistent with a stance that sets up his success.

@neo said:

Speaking of Nick Chubb, does anyone know how he's coming along with his recovery? There hasn't been very much said about him.

won't be much...NFLPA hammers HIPAA privacy rules on players.. Nick Chubb himself/agent, shouldn't release his medical info

Sadly, Most roster projections have Nick listed as going on reserve/PUP list to start the 2024 season. If so, Player must miss first 4 games of season at minimum.

Nick's injury report has been confirmed by everyone but Nick Chubb's medical staff. have read Multiple Reads like...

Chubb underwent surgery on Sept. 29 to repair his medial collaterial ligament, meniscus and medial capsule, the team confirmed Sept. 30 in a statement. Chubb also had a second surgery on Nov. 14th to repair his anterior cruciate ligament, the Browns said.

(MCL & ACL) and some still think full dislocation of left knee? (NFL/media former team Dr. Chao of Chargers)

No timeline, but Browns "on track" has been determined for his return. The Browns said early estimated recovery times suggest Chubb will be able to play "at some point" next season. (wonder where our bye week falls?)

?  ?   Good luck, 2-4 !

edit-- today's Dawand Jones injury update https://247sports.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/longformarticle/cleveland-browns-dawand-jones-229034010/#2390776