@solon16 said:

There we go.

I don't think we're at the point of hoping Savage has/had blind-squirrel syndrome with Quinn, but I'm guessing Mangini's not finished with the meat cleaver yet, either.

@atenears said:

I really would like to go this route even if we draft a QB in round #1 next year.

Shep will tell ya, I always favored bringing in a vet to push (break-up?) the Frye/Anderson/Quinn party, the Couch/Holcomb party and would have been in favor of a real vet this year (one with more clout than Ratliff).

These vets have maybe 5-6 years tops, but are huge in allowing you to grow a grass-roots younger QB in the system.

I am not in favor of Michael Vick, though.

What good Vet Qb's out there? I don't see a good fit do you?

@clevelandfanforlife said:

LOL..they important too....Why can't the Browns find a franchise QB?

@solon16 said:

what about 52 other guys?

@brownindian said:

I'm always game to bring in a good QB Vet, I wanted Bledsoe when the Pats let him go for cheap, I wanted Rich Gannon during the expansion kick-off, I would have waited for Drew Brees shoulder (turned out there was no wait necessary). I always like Collins ... I didn't turn my nose at us trying Garcia the skitterish water bug ...

I really would like to go this route even if we draft a QB in round #1 next year.

Shep will tell ya, I always favored bringing in a vet to push (break-up?) the Frye/Anderson/Quinn party, the Couch/Holcomb party and would have been in favor of a real vet this year (one with more clout than Ratliff).

These vets have maybe 5-6 years tops, but are huge in allowing you to grow a grass-roots younger QB in the system.

I am not in favor of Michael Vick, though.

@legacy-fan said:

Tim Couch

Let's look at that for a minute....

Rothlisberger, Ryan, Flacco, Manning, Rivers, Mcnabb,C. Palmer .... Vs. J. Harrington, Alex Smith, David Carr, Akili Smith,Tim Couch

Caveat....You must Take a Qb and Be CORRECT!

@brownindian said:

Nothing is more important than a franchise QB...Nothing!

Right side of the line is really really bad. No wonder the Bears were glad they got rid of St. Clair

Jamal Lewis is still an awful running back. He will not help this team win. There were a lot of people on this board who did not want to sign a free agent RB. Heck, give me Fred Taylor over him.

Where are the screen passes to Harrison? They need to get this guy more looks. What did he have, 5 carries? Romeo didn't use him, and Mangini isn't either. He's quicker and more explosive than Lewis. Give him the damn ball.

The defense isn't that bad at all. If we had an offense that could move the ball down the field and actually score, we could easily be 2-0.

This team is so hard to watch!

@solon16 said:

Anything other than QB is a waste of time

not really. If u look @ Arizona, Tennessee (warner and Collins) they went with an older QB as a backup and they landed up beating the starters (leinart and young). We can also just use free agency to grab a decent QB (Eagles have Vick and Jeff Garcia) or hang on to one of these two as a stop gap solution. If many feel that there are other problems in the offense that are as important as the QB then we should try to concentrate our draft choices on that.

@solon16 said:

Anything other than QB is a waste of time

Signed,

Tim Couch

@legacy-fan said:

IF we have a top 5 pick it's because our QB play Sucks...You take a QB if you are in top 5. We should have taken a QB this year but didn't know what we had in BQ....If we in top 5 in 10' draft we MUST take a QB!

Anything other than QB is a waste of time

@solon16 said:

I agree that Mack had a good game blocking. But he is seriously needing a long lesson when it comes to making sure the QB gets the ball from the shotgun! The QB play was what it was. I won;t argue for or against it. But I'm not ready to bring in DA.

@atenears said:

Pool should be flat out cut after that pussified performance yesterday.

Pool takes games off some time or even plays off, we have seen it in the past, and what was McDonald doing out on the field shadow dancing receivers and not able to bring them down.

Ole!

@legacy-fan said:

If we go top 5? After the first two games I cant see us drafting any higher than 3. Its going to be a long year. What size is your browns gear Im always looking for a deal?

@atenears said:

now manbearpig is leaving .... we'll never win again.

you must have ice in your veins

now manbearpig is leaving .... we'll never win again.

Pool should be flat out cut after that pussified performance yesterday.

@solon16 said:

Guess which guy was open? Guess why he was open?

Or after the 2 second pocket collapse guess which receivers haven't broken their routes yet?

Our sorry ass pass blocking right side is designed for a screen pass if I've ever seen it.

@solon16 said:

QB,RB and RT....should be first three picks next year in order!

Sam Bradford?

I would add 2 safeties ,2 WRs and 1 DE to that mix...

Im not ready to think its BQ or even DAs fault at this point its more about simplistic scripted crap and poor poor playcalling that is designed to cause us to lose the 2 QBs are our best pieces in a puzzle with many missing pieces..

@mr.-t said:

We cannot run the ball, and we only have one better than average receiver on the field.

Then add in the pathetic right side of the O line. and what do you get? 0-2

I still think BQ could have done better, but we have more than a QB controversy. Depending on who is available in the draft I would love for us to draft a 2nd round right tackle.

0-2 people, not 0-16...there is a LOT of football to be played this year still.

We cannot run the ball, and we only have one better than average receiver on the field.

Then add in the pathetic right side of the O line. and what do you get? 0-2