@mjp28 said:

Ghoolie is very right on !

Well in his £*€k/&$ way of getting things out and on a screen.  And in regards to this stuff in some way .......

.......  [from ghoolie]   Some of you c*nts just don't get it. This is a fucking football board, not a bullshit, grade school trash talk forum.

 A couple years before he passed, Stan asked me and one other guy to help him and to reach out to members via e mail, who don't post and find out why.

The number one reason? Regulars turning every fucking thread into bullshit personal comments.

Younger posters don't want to join in if they are going to be attacked or ridiculed.

Two mother fucking threads I post to talk about the stadium, and two cocksukers just decide to drag their bullshit over and keep at it.

Seriously, Tom, Dutch, you two, c*nts are like Behar and Whoopie. No matter what the fucking topic, you imbeciles can't resist from addressing the poster.

Talk football, or shut your fucking pieholes. If you were on a construction crew you both would have gotten your asses severely kicked long ago. [end ghoolie] ......

I got ghoolie's meaning out of that the first time I read it ..... now I might reconsider it reading through his murdering the English language.

Or better yet let this thread stay dead and buried.

Yes,  EOM.

@fy56 said:

As for you Syd, even a circus monkey could make the connection.

dude it was a fucking reach. And you know it, You just wanted to bring politics in to it.

@ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:

This board has hundreds of members, yet we seldom see new posters. It should be generating thousands of posts, yet it is only the same handful who post.

Flugel, a guy I like, Dutch Oven, and a few more are physically unable to disagree with someone without adding either a personal insult, politics, or in Flugel's case, a novel sized psychoanalysis of the poster.

I post about the stadium, and get to read about me being an altar boy. Who the fuck outside of a few people even know wtf that is about?

Some of you c*nts just don't get it. This is a fucking football board, not a bullshit, grade school trash talk forum.

 A couple years before he passed, Stan asked me and one other guy to help him and to reach out to members via e mail, who don't post and find out why.

The number one reason? Regulars turning every fucking thread into bullshit personal comments.

Younger posters don't want to join in if they are going to be attacked or ridiculed.

Two mother fucking threads I post to talk about the stadium, and two cocksukers just decide to drag their bullshit over and keep at it.

Seriously, Tom, Dutch, you two, c*nts are like Behar and Whoopie. No matter what the fucking topic, you imbeciles can't resist from addressing the poster.

Talk football, or shut your fucking pieholes. If you were on a construction crew you both would have gotten your asses severely kicked long ago.

I like you too when you take your meds.  

As for all the other unresolved feelings you have from the times you'd rather be your persona than Tom - our history has been breaking out the cyber mallets on each other. We've even had some surprising fun with it at times. You're correct that I'm better at that than pretending I'm Dr Frasier Crane. 

My initial reply to you started with I'm glad you're healthy.  I don't say anything I don't mean unless it's obvious I'm kidding (and you knew where I did that).  The rest of it all pretty much got away from us.  

I've always been here for the football appreciating the common bonds I find with others that are here for the same reason.  We're usually pretty good on the football board at trying to limit the inevitable differences of opinion from escalating to an inability to finish threads people were enjoying. However, there are some poli guys that come here to bait and troll.  For the love of God, Gorka has been begging for your attention in his 2nd screen name FY56 even before you disappeared.  Please give him some cyber fanny pats in here.  He just wants to be noticed or recognized.

We're gonna be okay. Welcome back - now let's have some FUCKING fun!

@ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:

This board has hundreds of members, yet we seldom see new posters. It should be generating thousands of posts, yet it is only the same handful who post.

Flugel, a guy I like, Dutch Oven, and a few more are physically unable to disagree with someone without adding either a personal insult, politics, or in Flugel's case, a novel sized psychoanalysis of the poster.

I post about the stadium, and get to read about me being an altar boy. Who the fuck outside of a few people even know wtf that is about?

Some of you c*nts just don't get it. This is a fucking football board, not a bullshit, grade school trash talk forum.

 A couple years before he passed, Stan asked me and one other guy to help him and to reach out to members via e mail, who don't post and find out why.

The number one reason? Regulars turning every fucking thread into bullshit personal comments.

Younger posters don't want to join in if they are going to be attacked or ridiculed.

Two mother fucking threads I post to talk about the stadium, and two cocksukers just decide to drag their bullshit over and keep at it.

Seriously, Tom, Dutch, you two, c*nts are like Behar and Whoopie. No matter what the fucking topic, you imbeciles can't resist from addressing the poster.

Talk football, or shut your fucking pieholes. If you were on a construction crew you both would have gotten your asses severely kicked long ago.

For someone who tries desperately to try to convince the world you are an "alpha", you are one impressive victim-playing snowflake. Embarrassing... 

No wonder you are the champion of other shit-talking bitches on here who get their asses handed to them on the regular. 

@texasag1969 said:

Don't worry. Pretty soon he'll be accusing you, Dutch and Flugs of violating the football board with politalk. ??

And like clockwork, the old queen does just this ? 

@flugel said:

This is supposed to be a guy that will put America 1st when he can't even put his wives and children 1st.  He can bellyache and cry STOP THE CHEAT - but could he stop the cheating?   Best of all?  It's all Biden's fault... ?

Like Clinton did with Paula Jones and Monica Lewinsky and a half a dozen others... Just sayin'...

@dutch-oven said:

Is Trump still falling asleep during his first of many criminal trials he's facing or does his legal team have a buzzer that goes off every time he shits his diaper? 

@flugel said:

This is supposed to be a guy that will put America 1st when he can't even put his wives and children 1st.  He can bellyache and cry STOP THE CHEAT - but could he stop the cheating?   Best of all?  It's all Biden's fault... ?

I suspected that would trigger someone.

But really guys, you two should post your liberal shit over in the poli board where it belongs. Thats where it belongs right?

@syd said:

what kind of fruit cake can go from winston to biden ? oh wait ? my bad. a poli board member

As for you Syd, even a circus monkey could make the connection.

@syd said:

what kind of fruit cake can go from winston to biden ? oh wait ? my bad. a poli board member

Don't worry. Pretty soon he'll be accusing you, Dutch and Flugs of violating the football board with politalk. ??

@dutch-oven said:

Is Trump still falling asleep during his first of many criminal trials he's facing or does his legal team have a buzzer that goes off every time he shits his diaper? 

This is supposed to be a guy that will put America 1st when he can't even put his wives and children 1st.  He can bellyache and cry STOP THE CHEAT - but could he stop the cheating?   Best of all?  It's all Biden's fault... ?

[ NOTICE ]  THIS SPOT LEFT BLANK ON PURPOSE.  THANK YOU.     

@fy56 said:

Except that he wasn't trying to be funny.

The humor he generates has nothing to do with being witty, it has everything to do with him being a bumbling, fumbling, stumbling idiot. Like Joe Biden.

Is Trump still falling asleep during his first of many criminal trials he's facing or does his legal team have a buzzer that goes off every time he shits his diaper? 

@texasag1969 said:

Nah ahn ahn. Delete it.

what kind of fruit cake can go from winston to biden ? oh wait ? my bad. a poli board member

@fy56 said:

Like Joe Biden.

Nah ahn ahn. Delete it.

@calfoxwc said:

I think they signed Winston because he has a sense of humor, unlike watson and stefanski

Except that he wasn't trying to be funny.

The humor he generates has nothing to do with being witty, it has everything to do with him being a bumbling, fumbling, stumbling idiot. Like Joe Biden.

@ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:

Let the guy play,.bro..Let.him play.

Oh hell ya. You gotta give him a pass for at least half a season to "shake off the rust".

Then "wait till next year" LOL

@ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:

Debacle? You think giving away all those first round picks was bad, yes?

Couch, weeden, Winslow, Mayfield, Manziel, William Green, Richardson, Warren, Courtney and of course butterfinger Edward's.

God yes, the Browns would never have achieved 1-31 and other greatness with all those "important" 1st round picks.

Whether Watson pans out has no bearing on the decision that was made.

The franchise wants a championship, Mayfield isn't taking anyone, anywhere. Watson was the best prospect available. Other teams dealt hard for him.

Gamble? It is all a gamble..However, they guy playing $100 slot machine is never going to be a millionaire.

Let the guy play,.bro..Let.him play.

He has played and looked like hammered shit doing so.  

@orion said:

I understand the power of benching the player.  It's humiliating.  But I just don't like punishing the whole rest of the team, which is what taking out your starting QB does.  The fine affects just the player.  I would just tell Watson, If you take on tacklers instead of sliding we're going to fine you and we're going to let Roger GoToHell calculate the dollar amount.    

I don't care if they have to do cartwheels wearing fanny floss as long as they get him sliding or trying to avoid contact.

@flugel said:

I thought about a fine too; but

I understand the power of benching the player.  It's humiliating.  But I just don't like punishing the whole rest of the team, which is what taking out your starting QB does.  The fine affects just the player.  I would just tell Watson, If you take on tacklers instead of sliding we're going to fine you and we're going to let Roger GoToHell calculate the dollar amount.    

@orion said:

^  Thank you.

I've said pretty much that, except I chose to Fine and not bench the player.

I thought about a fine too; but the only guy in the entire organization that makes more money than Watson is Jimmy Haslam.  If you want to change/correct a bad habit on the field - I think we're better off empowering the coaching staff with its wealth of experience to handle it.  The Browns hired Bill Musgrave as a Sr Offensive Assistant last year - he/Watson's position coach can provide safer alternatives when watching film with Watson and the offense. They don't necessarily have to start with benching Watson if he does it something like once in the 1st 2 games or so. If Watson starts blowing off the coaching points and initiates contact again - then you bench him for a series or a quarter or a half - all dependent on where they are with the situation. My guess is a competitive guy/QB would rather get fined than benched in a nationally televised game.  Lucky for us, we're just fans so this isn't our responsibility.

@flugel said:

Any QB that confuses what he's here to do with thinking he's Larry Csonka initiating contact with LBers and DL - needs to be BENCHED by coaches or inevitable injury will do it for them.

^  Thank you.

I've said pretty much that, except I chose to Fine and not bench the player.

@orion said:

Why is it sticking in my craw that somewhere I read Stef commenting on Winston and saying something like he's much more capable on the move than people think?   

I think they signed Winston because he has a sense of humor, unlike watson and stefanski

@mjp28 said:

Astute observations by  Mr Flugs  with some  old time NFL FOOTBALL players and our current  Cleveland BROWNS  situatations.

Even though we always wish for our  BROWNS  to do well in every season and in every situation ..... well this might be a tough one.

Let's hope our very high priced current. QB DW can come close to finishing a complete season  -AND-  put up some BIG numbers  -AND-  get into the  PLAYOFFS  -AND-  win some games.

Asking too much ?       

Thanks MJP!  A lot of Stefanski earning the NFL Coach of the Year honor stemmed from what he did without Watson (using 4 other QBs).  For example, the Joe Flacco no other teams wanted in 2023 suddenly had other teams interested once he played for Stefanski. Having said that, in the last game we watched Watson play - he looked much more like the player we thought we traded for.  The Rats didn't have a solution for him when he heated up and led us to a comeback win. Hopefully that was what we will be seeing on a more regular basis.  

I think we have a very talented team on both sides of the ball like 11 wins reminded us. It can probably go even better if we can keep at least 1 of our 2 very talented Right Tackles healthy. I hope this isn't just wishful thinking; but I think we'll have even better depth this year.

@tiamat63 said:

Why not?  The RPO, built off the inside zone or even a QB centered inside zone read

As it relates to the QB I would prefer RPO be PROB. 

Pass, if ya can't pass then Run and slide if it's safe,  or throw it OB.