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Father of Elijah Moore calls out Browns, Deshaun Watson on social media

@nickers said:

The problem for me is... We paid him $230 mill to elevate the team and be a leader... So far... He has not shown that outside of a couple of decent games... All we keep hearing about is more potential lawsuits, Injuries and rust... It's exhausting

No argument here! It absolutely is exhausting. And as a new fan, it's really disappointing to walk into supporting this team and instantly having to navigate a domestic violence case from Hall and sexual assault lawsuits from Watson. But I guess my thing is doing that was stupid and there was no reason to think Watson was a leader or that he could elevate the team. I'm not a football expert but I don't have to be to see there aren't many leadership qualities in this person. Its expected of him just because thats what QBs are expected to do. If there is someone with the personality to be a leader on the Browns in my opinion its JOK, but that isn't a position where that can shine espicially for the offense. So I guess I just can't blame Watson. If you hire me to be a doctor people are going to die.

@orange_ranger said:

Regardless of Watson's off the field drama the thing is it seems like in all of football for as long as I've been alive all anyone wants to talk about is the QB. He throws balls. He isn't a Wizard. Holding the ball too long? I don't know, I think he doesn't have anywhere else to put it which is why he runs through pockets himself so much. I kind of feel bad for him and I find him pretty suspect as an individual. But all anyone ever wants to chant is "this isn't the Deshaun we saw in Houston." Ok well...I wasn't there to be fair so you guys who have been with the sport a lot longer tell me - in Houston did he have to deal with an offensive line that couldn't block a grandma limping on a walker? In Houston did he have to deal with players who were so in love with the other team they couldn't stop holding them affectionately, cancelling touchdowns and sending us back to a 20 yard 1st down every other play? In Houston did he have recievers who had so little seperation they might as well hold hands with their coverage and frolic through the daisies? In Houston did he have running backs drop balls on hand offs, and recievers fail to catch sniper shots right between their jersey numbers? In Houston did he end up on his back more times than his favorite massage therapists? Honest questions. Cause are we over paying him? I mean yes but in my opinion we over pay everyone in the league. Is he making choices that aren't the best in a play? Yeah he does, though he's under constant pressure because he doesn't have an O-line to speak of at all so there's no time to pan and scan and wait for someone to finish their date. We deffinitely depend too much on him to carry this team. He has nothing to work with. I'm good at my job but if I don't have the tools I need to do it, you aren't going to think so.

The problem for me is... We paid him $230 mill to elevate the team and be a leader... So far... He has not shown that outside of a couple of decent games... All we keep hearing about is more potential lawsuits, Injuries and rust... It's exhausting

@orion said:

Currently I don't see any reason to rush Chubb back.  At least not until our starting tackles have played a game or two. 

I agree... its better to let him mend as long as possible...

@korsou-dawg said:

Chubb about to start taking part in team practice again.

Currently I don't see any reason to rush Chubb back.  At least not until our starting tackles have played a game or two. 

@texasag1969 said:

Is this like Conklin "about" to be a real Browns player and not a ghost??

Conklin finally retiring would make a decent second on the Browns best wish list!

@kvoethe said:

Offensive genius on display!!

that would be the coach calling the plays for....

the Raiders?

lol

@korsou-dawg said:

Chubb about to start taking part in team practice again. Seeing him get back onto the filed and get carries is just about the only thing Browns related I am genuinely looking forward to at this point.  

Chubb though may be a slower version of his old self but... If he could just be a bruising bell cow back... I think thats the best we can hope for.. On one hand though.. I don't doubt the mans heart...

@korsou-dawg said:

Chubb about to start taking part in team practice again. Seeing him get back onto the filed and get carries is just about the only thing Browns related I am genuinely looking forward to at this point.  

Is this like Conklin "about" to be a real Browns player and not a ghost??

@packernation said:

Wait, you're an Aggies fan? Telling me Arkansas is going to pull the upset...

Something fishy here.?

+5.5 not enough to take Arkansas. 

It's in Jerry World.

Well I was wrong about Arkansas winning, but I was right to take them with 5.5 points. A&M 21 - Ark 17 final score. The difference was 3 turnovers by Ark to 0 for A&M.

@dutch-oven said:

I already am, hence the QB thread I started... ?

This is a team destined for a high draft pick. I might start posting some Left Tackle videos too, so people can check out Jed Will's replacement during the college season.

Any Texas A&M prospects we should be looking at? 

The top two are both on the DL and likely to go 1st round, so no real help from us for the Browns this year.

@texasag1969 said:

And if we don't beat Vegas, we are looking seriously to determine who we want for the overall #1 draft choice.

I already am, hence the QB thread I started... ?

This is a team destined for a high draft pick. I might start posting some Left Tackle videos too, so people can check out Jed Will's replacement during the college season.

Any Texas A&M prospects we should be looking at? 

@dutch-oven said:

The OLine is in tatters and our receivers are #1 in dropped passes so far. 

Good times! 

And if we don't beat Vegas, we are looking seriously to determine who we want for the overall #1 draft choice.

@orion said:

IMO, we are a team that's dead in the water.  Without a functioning OL...you're screwed.  Watson & Stefanski will get the blame for this upcoming loss.  

The OLine is in tatters and our receivers are #1 in dropped passes so far. 

Good times! 

@packernation said:

I'm just glad more here are jumping on the bandwagon for the Browns winning this week. With the Raiders injuries to key players, this thing is more than winnable. Yes, I know the Browns have injuries as well.

Don't break those ankles jumping on and off the wagon. 

I say the above to the pessimistic crew here, Bob is not a member of that crew.

I'm a "glass is half full" guy lol. 

I'm no better than anybody else, just have had season tickets since 1979 (my junior year in high school, it was only $66 for the WHOLE season BTW). So yeah, most of that sadly has been subpar, but why give up fandom now. Waaaaay too much emotional investment. 

I do think the Browns can win it, despite the offensive line woes. I go back to the 1st half of the Jax game, where the Browns really did look good in all phases. The bummer is that's only one half, out of 3 games. 

A 3 game road trip may be just what the doctor ordered. Perhaps there's less distractions & more focus, time will tell (no distractions in Vegas hahaha). I know I'm in the minority around here, but I really do think Stefanski & his coaching staff are good (a little to pass happy last week though).

Go Browns. 

• OT Jack Conklin - Hamstring - Out
• LB Jordan Hicks - Ribs, Elbow - Questionable
• TE David Njoku - Ankle - Out
• RB Pierre Strong - Hamstring - Out
• OT Jedrick Wills - Knee - Out

DE Myles Garrett said he was going to play and does not show up on the final injury report after a full practice Friday.

Raiders Injury Report

• RB Ameer Abdullah - Back - Questionable
• WR Davante Adams - Hamstring - Out
• DE Maxx Crosby - Ankle - Doubtful
• LB Divine Deablo - Oblique - Out
• LB Kana’i Mauga - Calf - Questionable
• TE Mike Mayer - Not Injury Related - Out
• OT Thayer Munford Jr. - Knee, Ankle - Doubtful
• CB Decamerion Richardson - Hamstring - Out

@packernation said:

I say the above to the pessimistic crew here, that Bob is not a member of.

Browns prepare for the tank for #1

@bob806 said:

Oh wow, I knew Arizona had that (I've been there twice), didn't know LV had it too.

I guess the jury should disregard my 2nd statement ?, but damnit get some guys running free.

I'm just glad more here are jumping on the bandwagon for the Browns winning this week. With the Raiders injuries to key players, this thing is more than winnable. Yes, I know the Browns have injuries as well.

Don't break those ankles jumping on and off the wagon. 

I say the above to the pessimistic crew here, Bob is not a member of that crew.

@packernation said:

Allegiant Stadium is natural grass. It's a dome stadium, the grass is grown outside and wheeled in stadium for games on a grass tray. 

The Cardinals have the same system at State Farm Stadium in Arizona.

Oh wow, I knew Arizona had that (I've been there twice), didn't know LV had it too.

I guess the jury should disregard my 2nd statement ?, but damnit get some guys running free.

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@bob806 said:

I've got a feeling that the special teams are going to need to come up big for the Browns.

First astroturf game of the season. Can the Browns figure out a way to get speedsters involved (Jeudy, Moore....dare I say it, Thrash?)

Allegiant Stadium is natural grass. It's a dome stadium, the grass is grown outside and wheeled in stadium for games on a grass tray. 

The Cardinals have the same system at State Farm Stadium in Arizona.