@chicopee-john said:

The politicians put the military is horrible environments and then shackle them by micromanaging from DC.

WHAT? So the first Persian gulf war was a failure? Or the Korean, WW1 and 2? hell technically the second Iraq invasion and Afghanistan in terms of military "war" were massively successful.

I think you are mistakenly attributing Nation building, in Iraq and Afghanistan as "military wars".... Occupation and stabilizing a region AFTER and invasion is not what this military was built to do.....

Micromanaging...... how funny, we have a NUCLEAR country that is being destabilized by our invasion and destruction of a nation and government and somehow this is being "micro managed"....

Military folks understand that nation building and occupations are not what militaries are created to do......

@kosar_for_president said:

As frightening as it might seem, this is the SECOND time I've agreed with Kosar this week. Of course, the topics were comparable.

The politicians put the military is horrible environments and then shackle them by micromanaging from DC.

@calfoxwc said:

If it was ALL Bush's fault,

Now it's ALL Obama's fault.

Make up yer Bush hatin minds ..............

They both suck balls. Backing either "party" is a waste of time. They are both the same. The ideals they set up for both parties are meant to keep us busy while in turn, both of those parties can do what ever they want to the people who support them (pretty ironic). Patriot act, "stimulus" packages, invading countries, second "stimulus" packages. Bush let the banks rape us. Obama is doing the same. Obama's "change"? What in the f'ck is he changing. Spending like Bush, ignoring our rights. Both parties let our country get raped. The sooner people come together and realize that, the sooner we can save face.

If it was ALL Bush's fault,

Now it's ALL Obama's fault.

Make up yer Bush hatin minds ..............

@chicopee-john said:

really?......

So a "general" whose mandate it is to wage MILITARY actions specifically will come in with lets all hold on..... a request based on his mandate to wage MILITARY based actions is going to request more troops in a large mountainous region, with a segregrated low educated population that is more tribal than a unified people, with a porous uncontrolled border that fully support the "insurgents",funded by opium sales, without a strong central government who the vast majority of the tribal religous driven populace dont support, with arms and funding supported by other regional influences.....

is going to talk about a military theatre that Obama did not create but is worried about a NUCLEAR Pakistan being destabilized by a population flowing from a country WE BROKE.....

Wow earth shaking.... or maybe those bureacrats whose job it is to think about the big geo political picture and long term stability of Pakistan and India both who happens to be nuclear may have a different perspective than say a general whose job it is to worry about his military theatre and military mandates...... Since you brought up the art of war I am sure you must have read it because there are quite a lot of references about knowing the geographics and the population in order to plan your military actions properly.......

earth shattering..... good god some of you guys seem like you are searching for anything to politically attack someone you clearly did not vote for...

son of a...

Well, they think they learned about war by reading

Saul Alinski's "Rules for Radicals"...

"sigh"

while he panders to the left, and waffles, imho.

And his willingness to side against Israel in the conflict, has encouraged

multiple terrorist threats/attempts at violence around our country.

Not good. Obama has no American values to base any leadership on.

Just his radical leanings that got him avid support in his career, via

his college education with his admitted favorite professors... the socialist ones.