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Smith is the big name with some buzz right now. Would anyone offer anything for Wills or Moore? I would think there’d be a market for Hurst and McLeod.

Oddly enough the guy l think we should keep and try to re-sign is Akins. He’s been a solid TE2.

@ballpeen said:

To answer the question on Garrett....No.

While things aren't good this year, I don't see things as desperate. We just have a toxic brew this season.  Anybody at QB even halfway competent will have the O working better.  I actually think Zappe was a good signing and will make a good bridge QB for the next few years until we draft the eventual starter.

Cooper was toxic this year.  We caused it to some extent. Coop wasn't happy with no contract and signing Judey.  That still doesn't excuse him for half assing it.

Moore has been a problem.

Just a lot of things that can be sorted out in 1 season that don't put us in fire sale mode.

I am hopeful or agree on all of your points with the exception of trading Garrett and this being able to be sorted out in one season.

I want to be wrong and you to be right.

There are too many questions along the OL between needs, age and contract situations. Those problems need solved.

While things aren't good this year, I don't see things as desperate. We just have a toxic brew this season.  Anybody at QB even halfway competent will have the O working better.  I actually think Zappe was a good signing and will make a good bridge QB for the next few years until we draft the eventual starter.

Cooper was toxic this year.  We caused it to some extent. Coop wasn't happy with no contract and signing Judey.  That still doesn't excuse him for half assing it.

Moore has been a problem.

Just a lot of things that can be sorted out in 1 season that don't put us in fire sale mode.

@ibleedbrown said:

Right, lockdown corner on a fixed 3 year deal. That’s super easy to trade if the price is right. 

A team is stuck with a big contract if the head stuff pops up over and over. Or the soft tissue month in street clothes happens per usual. I’d argue he’s probably in his peak now- I don’t expect him to be faster, stronger or catch the ball better. 

@marvin-the-martian said:

Given the way the front office does trades and signings, I expect a 7th round pick (conditional) for Ward and a 4th for Garret

Besides drafting Corey Coleman and getting pennies on the dollar for him.  And Josh Gordon for a ham sandwich (he of course had notable issues).  I think our FO has been very savvy with trades 

@usfbrown said:

It is highly unlikely any blockbuster trades like we're discussing here happens.  If a team is trading for a big name with a big price then it's likely they are a current contender.  Which means if they see to improve immediately - hence your #1 pick will start going lower in value. 

You just don't typically see these types of trades in season.  

That is true… the talk of Myles being traded spiked out of nowhere when the Lions lost their star DE and the Browns lost Watson. A perfect storm of “Well, both teams might do something wild”. The NFC is just begging for the Lions to claim, and the Browns are just begging for a massive rebuild 

You just don't typically see these types of trades in season.  

@marvin-the-martian said:

It is the equivalent of $230 million and 3 first round picks for Watson

But that isn't what I was asking.

I wanted examples of the Browns giving away quality players for pennies on the dollar.

@dutch-oven said:

Give examples that back this thinking. 

It is the equivalent of $230 million and 3 first round picks for Watson

@sdbacker80 said:

He’s got basically three years left on his deal after this season and a long history of concussions and #5 as far as corners go when it comes to money.  2 and 4 I can’t imagine it getting any richer for us than that.  If someone thinks he’s a missing piece a 2026 first rounder that allows a team to compete this year and build next year too and it gives us an extra lottery pick to find a QB in 2026. 

Right, lockdown corner on a fixed 3 year deal. That’s super easy to trade if the price is right. 

@ibleedbrown said:

Health is always the wild card in a game where guys try to level other guys.

I changed my mind. I want 2 first rounders and a 3rd for Denzel Ward.

He’s got basically three years left on his deal after this season and a long history of concussions and #5 as far as corners go when it comes to money.  2 and 4 I can’t imagine it getting any richer for us than that.  If someone thinks he’s a missing piece a 2026 first rounder that allows a team to compete this year and build next year too and it gives us an extra lottery pick to find a QB in 2026. 

@marvin-the-martian said:

Given the way the front office does trades and signings, I expect a 7th round pick (conditional) for Ward and a 4th for Garret

Give examples that back this thinking. 

@ibleedbrown said:

Health is always the wild card in a game where guys try to level other guys.

I changed my mind. I want 2 first rounders and a 3rd for Denzel Ward.

Well I guess ol' Denzel will be retiring as a Brown then. ?

@dutch-oven said:

He's never missed a huge part of a season, but is good for missing 2-4 games every season.

It's crazy, he's in his seventh season already, but he's only 27 years old. 

Health is always the wild card in a game where guys try to level other guys.

I changed my mind. I want 2 first rounders and a 3rd for Denzel Ward.

@ibleedbrown said:

For Denzel Ward?!? I spit in your direction.

His injury history really isn’t that bad. And he’s among the stickiest CBs in the league. I say worth a 1 and 2.

He's never missed a huge part of a season, but is good for missing 2-4 games every season.

It's crazy, he's in his seventh season already, but he's only 27 years old. 

@dutch-oven said:

I'd consider a 2nd and 4th...

I'd probably jump at a 1st and 4th. 

His injury history just screams "take this very nice offer and run". 

For Denzel Ward?!? I spit in your direction.

His injury history really isn’t that bad. And he’s among the stickiest CBs in the league. I say worth a 1 and 2.

@sdbacker80 said:

2nd and a 4th. 
 

Or how about a 2026 1st and a fourth 

I'd consider a 2nd and 4th...

I'd probably jump at a 1st and 4th. 

His injury history just screams "take this very nice offer and run". 

@sdbacker80 said:

2nd and a 4th. 
 

Or how about a 2026 1st and a fourth 

Really? I wouldn’t budge unless a 1 was in the mix next year. I kinda think he’s worth a 1 and 2 next year at least. 

@ibleedbrown said:

Not sure this deserves its own thread, but one of my Bengals buddies asked about Denzel Ward. Waddya think guys? What’ll it take?

2nd and a 4th. 
 

Or how about a 2026 1st and a fourth