@flugel said:

I just wish this franchise was way better at drafting

And that's the catch.  No matter where you're drafting at, it's a bit of a crap-shoot.  

@orion said:

Of course you do.  Nobody wants to see their team lose a game.  Especially on gameday.

But, when you step back 30,000 ft.....you see that you might be wanting to draft a QB.  Having the very highest draft pick possible is very helpful in that regard.  The QB position is like no other.  Without your starting QB of the foreseeable future your team will not be too good.  And if you DO have your QB in place then you aren't thinking about the draft in mid-October.  The QB position is off the curve.  It's all bets are off.  (see trade for Watson)  

Obviously your draft spots in subsequent rounds are better and more valuable to other teams for trading purposes...but also, in theory, your schedule will be weaker than other teams in your division.  

The only game(s) that you're allowed to 'tank' is at the end of the season and you're a locked in playoff team resting your players.

I agree with every bit of that.  I just wish this franchise was way better at drafting/finding the right QB. I feel like Linus heading to the pumpkin patch again with it all.

@flugel said:

I have mixed feelings about wanting to tank to root for the better draft slots

Of course you do.  Nobody wants to see their team lose a game.  Especially on gameday.

But, when you step back 30,000 ft.....you see that you might be wanting to draft a QB.  Having the very highest draft pick possible is very helpful in that regard.  The QB position is like no other.  Without your starting QB of the foreseeable future your team will not be too good.  And if you DO have your QB in place then you aren't thinking about the draft in mid-October.  The QB position is off the curve.  It's all bets are off.  (see trade for Watson)  

Obviously your draft spots in subsequent rounds are better and more valuable to other teams for trading purposes...but also, in theory, your schedule will be weaker than other teams in your division.  

The only game(s) that you're allowed to 'tank' is at the end of the season and you're a locked in playoff team resting your players.

@flugel said:

Well said!  Not to take away from what looks like an Offensive Rookie of the Year in Washington if healthy - but Goff looks like the best QB in the NFC.  Good for him because impatience wanting a scapegoat in one place led to a better opportunity in another.  Seems like a quiet kid that's very easy for his hometown fans to embrace. 

It helps that his HC spent 11 years in the pros as a TE. He knows how to talk with QBs better than most HCs. I credit him with supporting and bringing out the best in Goff after he was traded to Detroit. Here is Goff pulling a prank-one of my favorites. Really got the starting QB worried. LOL!

@orion said:

Basically, we traded Smith for a late 5th round pick (at the moment like, 2nd last pick in the round).  Oh, and we swapped next year's 7th rounder for their 6th rounder (one practice squad player for another).  -  I'm sure Smith is whistling on his way to the plane.  Good for the Lions.  I like Jared Goff.  I think the Rams did him a disservice.

Well said!  Not to take away from what looks like an Offensive Rookie of the Year in Washington if healthy - but Goff looks like the best QB in the NFC.  Good for him because impatience wanting a scapegoat in one place led to a better opportunity in another.  Seems like a quiet kid that's very easy for his hometown fans to embrace.  

I have mixed feelings about wanting to tank to root for the better draft slots especially when some drafts aren't deep at QB and other areas of big need for this team.  Not only that, many of our Pro Bowl players (Garrett, Ward, Bitonio, Teller, Chubb, Njoku) weren't drafted by this FO.  The only guy with star potential they've drafted since 2020 is JOK although I'm starting to think Cedric Tillman belongs in the same category.  I want to be wrong about these negative feelings I have; and hopefully they'll prove me wrong.  That hasn't been too hard to do lately...

I just want some wins after the BYE week. It would be even better if they sent DePodesta packing.

Wonder who else they’ll get shipped out before the deadline 

@packernation said:

Everyone and their brother kicks your Browns ass. Sit down until your team wins something. 

We will let you know when you get a seat at the big boys table.

Back to Z...and how he is mediocre at best. 

But they still kicked your ass

@diehardbrownsfan1 said:

Lions kicked your ass.?

Everyone and their brother kicks your Browns ass. Sit down until your team wins something. 

We will let you know when you get a seat at the big boys table.

Back to Z...and how he is mediocre at best. 

@texasag1969 said:

But, but, but..........................what about the bag of beans that come with the trade??

Beans? I thought it was a warm 6 pack of beer?

@canton-dawg said:

Ahh, the good old 5th and 6th round picks. Rest assured they will be used on 2 guys that shouldn’t be on an NFL roster.

But, but, but..........................what about the bag of beans that come with the trade??

Dont give me that  NFL Championship BS.
Detroit got 4 of those things too.

And so it goes......

But it is what it is.  Mcguire is pushing Alex Wright out for more snaps, so this is a decent ROI while pushing towards a youth movement from McGuire and Mikey Hall.

@packernation said:

Z has not been good since his time in Green Bay. He was done when he left Green Bay disgruntled. He was upset the Packers let him go.

A 5th and 6th round pick is a steal for Z.

Lions kicked your ass.?

A 5th and 6th round pick is a steal for Z.