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@dutch-oven said:

Remember when Mo Carthon called a fullback pass on like 4th and 1? I think it would have been Vickers who attempted to pass? 

He also called a play-action pass for a Hail Mary attempt.

We could go on for a long time.  Like when Pettine tried a 60+ yard FG with Devon Hester awaiting at the goal line.  TWICE!  The first time being just after the Falcons idiot coach called time out to 'ice' him...so that we could all see Hester field the ball.  That wasn't enough for Pettine.  He had him kick it again and Hester was stopped just short of scoring a TD by Bitonio who said, I Just Kept Runnin'.  

BTW - after beating the Steelers a couple of weeks ago, I don't think we stand a snow ball's chance in hell of winning this game.  

@dutch-oven said:

Mo Carthon

forgot all about that guy

@nickers said:

The commonality between Haslam and Modell is both are always looking for the quick fix or a way to buy.. Or cheat their way to a championship... The only time Modell ever got it right is when he unfortunatly moved our team and let Ozzie run the team which for me was an ever bigger slap in the face... I even lost a little respect for Ozzie helping that POS... But I get it was a job..... Stiil... I would've never shit on the fans like that and that's how I still view it so fuck Ozzie too!... When he took that job I took it as a personal slam on the fans... The ones who supported and helped enrich his career... Call me old and bitter but that's how I feel... Cheated...

Agree. Ozzie was a legend here but damn. Watching  the Ratbirds win a SB so soon after bolting was rough. I'll never get over it

@orion said:

...or call a WR bubble screen on 1st and goal, in OT, at the Steeler one yard line.

Remember when Mo Carthon called a fullback pass on like 4th and 1? I think it would have been Vickers who attempted to pass? 

@bob806 said:

I'm convinced Haslam's management structure is the problem.

He simply doesn't trust coach/GM to make decisions. He relies on DePodesta too much ( IMHO). So there's too many cooks in the kitchen.

Modell was similar. 

Too bad we can't pick our owner.

The commonality between Haslam and Modell is both are always looking for the quick fix or a way to buy.. Or cheat their way to a championship... The only time Modell ever got it right is when he unfortunatly moved our team and let Ozzie run the team which for me was an ever bigger slap in the face... I even lost a little respect for Ozzie helping that POS... But I get it was a job..... Stiil... I would've never shit on the fans like that and that's how I still view it so fuck Ozzie too!... When he took that job I took it as a personal slam on the fans... The ones who supported and helped enrich his career... Call me old and bitter but that's how I feel... Cheated...

@orion said:

And we never ever deserved it.  Browns fans love their team.  They're loyal.  Loudly supportive...and loudly critical, which is a sign of engagement.  For the longest time we were given a team that promoted apathy.  And it was because ownership did not know how to select a head coach and general manager.  

I'm convinced Haslam's management structure is the problem.

He simply doesn't trust coach/GM to make decisions. He relies on DePodesta too much ( IMHO). So there's too many cooks in the kitchen.

Modell was similar. 

Too bad we can't pick our owner.

@bob806 said:

Insanity. 

We don't deserve this lol

And we never ever deserved it.  Browns fans love their team.  They're loyal.  Loudly supportive...and loudly critical, which is a sign of engagement.  For the longest time we were given a team that promoted apathy.  And it was because ownership did not know how to select a head coach and general manager.  

Granted, some states only have little parts that get the game, but if you happen to be the lucky guy living in Hornbeak, TN, well you get the Browns game in the comfort of your Hornbeaky home.

All of Ohio gets the game, too, including my usually forsaken homies in Van Wert. 

https://506sports.com/nfl.php?yr=2024&wk=14

@orion said:

...or call a WR bubble screen on 1st and goal, in OT, at the Steeler one yard line.

Insanity. 

We don't deserve this lol

@bob806 said:

...or take his helmet off on the last play of the game thinking there was a sack?

...or call a WR bubble screen on 1st and goal, in OT, at the Steeler one yard line.

@orion said:

Me either.  Well, at least not when the game is going on.      I could never root for a Browns player to miss a FG...or drop a pass...fumble...fall down....or anything like that.

...or take his helmet off on the last play of the game thinking there was a sack?

@bob806 said:

I'll never ever root for a Browns loss.

Me either.  Well, at least not when the game is going on.      I could never root for a Browns player to miss a FG...or drop a pass...fumble...fall down....or anything like that.

@orion said:

Again, we need to lose in order to improve our draft position......but 'F' That!  It's the Steelers!

Nope. I'll never ever root for a Browns loss. 

Sweep the Steelers

@orion said:

Every NFL draft pick the Browns have made under GM Andrew Berry

OT Jedrick Wills (Round 1, Pick 10 in the 2020 NFL draft)
S Grant Delpit (Round 2, Pick 44 of the 2020 NFL draft)
DT Jordan Elliott (Round 3, Pick 88 of the 2020 NFL draft)
LB Jacob Phillips (Round 3, Pick 97 of the 2020 NFL draft)
TE Harrison Bryant (Round 4, Pick 115 of the 2020 NFL draft)
C Nick Harris (Round 5, Pick 160 of the 2020 NFL draft)
WR Donovan Peoples-Jones (Round 6, Pick 187 of the 2020 NFL draft)
CB Greg Newsome II (Round 1, Pick 26 of the 2021 NFL draft)
LB Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah (Round 2, Pick 52 of the 2021 NFL draft)
WR Anthony Schwartz (Round 3, Pick 91 of the 2021 NFL draft)
OT James Hudson III (Round 4, Pick 110 of the 2021 NFL draft)
DT Tommy Togiai (Round 4, Pick 132 of the 2021 NFL draft)
LB Tony Fields II (Round 5, Pick 153 of the 2021 NFL draft)
S Richard LeCounte III (Round 5, Pick 169 of the 2021 NFL draft)
RB/WR Demetric Felton (Round 6, Pick 211 of the 2021 NFL draft)
CB Martin Emerson Jr. (Round 3, Pick 68 of the 2022 NFL draft)
DE Alex Wright (Round 3, Pick 78 of the 2022 NFL draft)
WR David Bell (Round 3, Pick 99 of the 2022 NFL draft)
DT Perrion Winfrey (Round 4, Pick 108 of the 2022 NFL draft)
K Cade York (Round 4, Pick 124 of the 2022 NFL draft)

RB Jerome Ford (Round 5, Pick 156 of the 2022 NFL draft)
WR Michael Woods II (Round 6, Pick 202 of the 2022 NFL draft)
DE Isaiah Thomas (Round 7, Pick 223 of the 2022 NFL draft)
OL Dawson Deaton (Round 7, Pick 246 of the 2022 NFL draft)
WR Cedric Tillman (Round 3, Pick 74 of the 2023 NFL draft)
DT Siaki Ika (Round 3, Pick 98 of the 2023 NFL draft)
OT Dawand Jones (Round 4, Pick 111 of the 2023 NFL draft)
DE Isaiah McGuire (Round 4, Pick 126 of the 2023 NFL draft)
QB Dorian Thompson-Robinson (Round 5, Pick 140 of the 2023 NFL draft)
CB Cameron Mitchell (Round 5, Pick 142 of the 2023 NFL draft)
C Luke Wypler (Round 6, Pick 190 of the 2023 NFL draft)

That has Super Bowl written all over it.

@nickers said:

At this point it won't matter where we finish if Berry is still shopping for the groceries...

Every NFL draft pick the Browns have made under GM Andrew Berry

OT Jedrick Wills (Round 1, Pick 10 in the 2020 NFL draft)
S Grant Delpit (Round 2, Pick 44 of the 2020 NFL draft)
DT Jordan Elliott (Round 3, Pick 88 of the 2020 NFL draft)
LB Jacob Phillips (Round 3, Pick 97 of the 2020 NFL draft)
TE Harrison Bryant (Round 4, Pick 115 of the 2020 NFL draft)
C Nick Harris (Round 5, Pick 160 of the 2020 NFL draft)
WR Donovan Peoples-Jones (Round 6, Pick 187 of the 2020 NFL draft)
CB Greg Newsome II (Round 1, Pick 26 of the 2021 NFL draft)
LB Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah (Round 2, Pick 52 of the 2021 NFL draft)
WR Anthony Schwartz (Round 3, Pick 91 of the 2021 NFL draft)
OT James Hudson III (Round 4, Pick 110 of the 2021 NFL draft)
DT Tommy Togiai (Round 4, Pick 132 of the 2021 NFL draft)
LB Tony Fields II (Round 5, Pick 153 of the 2021 NFL draft)
S Richard LeCounte III (Round 5, Pick 169 of the 2021 NFL draft)
RB/WR Demetric Felton (Round 6, Pick 211 of the 2021 NFL draft)
CB Martin Emerson Jr. (Round 3, Pick 68 of the 2022 NFL draft)
DE Alex Wright (Round 3, Pick 78 of the 2022 NFL draft)
WR David Bell (Round 3, Pick 99 of the 2022 NFL draft)
DT Perrion Winfrey (Round 4, Pick 108 of the 2022 NFL draft)
K Cade York (Round 4, Pick 124 of the 2022 NFL draft)

RB Jerome Ford (Round 5, Pick 156 of the 2022 NFL draft)
WR Michael Woods II (Round 6, Pick 202 of the 2022 NFL draft)
DE Isaiah Thomas (Round 7, Pick 223 of the 2022 NFL draft)
OL Dawson Deaton (Round 7, Pick 246 of the 2022 NFL draft)
WR Cedric Tillman (Round 3, Pick 74 of the 2023 NFL draft)
DT Siaki Ika (Round 3, Pick 98 of the 2023 NFL draft)
OT Dawand Jones (Round 4, Pick 111 of the 2023 NFL draft)
DE Isaiah McGuire (Round 4, Pick 126 of the 2023 NFL draft)
QB Dorian Thompson-Robinson (Round 5, Pick 140 of the 2023 NFL draft)
CB Cameron Mitchell (Round 5, Pick 142 of the 2023 NFL draft)
C Luke Wypler (Round 6, Pick 190 of the 2023 NFL draft)

@orion said:

The road Steeler game is upon us.  They're in first and we're in last.  I'd say that it doesn't get a whole lot worse than this...but that'd be wrong.  We've seen worse than this.  We have some pretty good players.  We just need more of 'em.

OK, so the numbers show that the Steelers are pretty much 19th when you're talking about the pass.  And we've dropped to 20th against the pass!  And more incredible than that, we've risen to 11th in passing offense!  Winston's 497 yards passing against the Broncos sure changed the numbers in just one game.  But not the outcome.  We still lost.

We've dropped to 30th at running the ball....and the Steelers are #4 against the run.  

And, of course, the glaring stat...the Steelers are +15 in turnover differential while we're at minus 8.    B-F-B   (Beautiful, Freakin' Beautiful)   

Looks like we're going to need Winston to throw another bunch of TD passes again this week....except we'll be needing them thrown only to our guys.

Again, we need to lose in order to improve our draft position......but 'F' That!  It's the Steelers!

At this point it won't matter where we finish if Berry is still shopping for the groceries...