Deion Sanders to Dallas Cowboys? Jerry Jones willing to make Prime Time splash

@dutch-oven said:

The movie came out during the era of "gritty camera work" where everything was herky jerky and "realistic" and it actually would make me feel like I'd get motion sickness watching it. BBT is a fantastic actor, loved him in 'Monsters Ball' too. 

Definitely check out the Carter doc. 

My only knock on my favorite movie was what you described.  The quick cut fight sequences that don't flow, too choppy, and are poorly edited. The "gritty" Bourne Identity-esque type.    It just doesn't work with some things. 

@flugel said:

Yeah, as much as Billy Bob Thornton is a great actor (ie; Sling Blade, The Judge & Landman Series) - he's not exactly the best guy to play a football coach in a state where people live and breathe high school football.

That 30 for 30 for the Carter High School football program sounds interesting. 

The movie came out during the era of "gritty camera work" where everything was herky jerky and "realistic" and it actually would make me feel like I'd get motion sickness watching it. BBT is a fantastic actor, loved him in 'Monsters Ball' too. 

Definitely check out the Carter doc. 

@dutch-oven said:

'Friday Night Lights' is a fantastic book (now that you brought it up it has dawned on me that I let someone borrow it years ago and its been years since I've had any contact with her, so that book is gone like a fart in the wind. I guess I'll have to get another copy... anyways...) that I was so excited to see being made into a movie. Went and saw it in the theater and honestly was a little underwhelmed. I'll have to give it another shot.

There's a really good ESPN doc (30 for 30 probably?) regarding the team Permian loses to in the state title game - Carter. Check it out if you haven't seen it already.

Yeah, as much as Billy Bob Thornton is a great actor (ie; Sling Blade, The Judge & Landman Series) - he's not exactly the best guy to play a football coach in a state where people live and breathe high school football.

That 30 for 30 for the Carter High School football program sounds interesting. 

@flugel said:

For now, Permian High School can also rest easy that Billy Bob Thornton won't be leaving their football program anytime soon either.  Next time I watch that movie they're gonna be favored by 3 points...

'Friday Night Lights' is a fantastic book (now that you brought it up it has dawned on me that I let someone borrow it years ago and its been years since I've had any contact with her, so that book is gone like a fart in the wind. I guess I'll have to get another copy... anyways...) that I was so excited to see being made into a movie. Went and saw it in the theater and honestly was a little underwhelmed. I'll have to give it another shot.

There's a really good ESPN doc (30 for 30 probably?) regarding the team Permian loses to in the state title game - Carter. Check it out if you haven't seen it already.

@dutch-oven said:

Now thinking about it, Deion as head coach of the Cowboys never really made any sense.

Jerry Jones needs to be the face of the Cowboys. Ask Jimmy Johnson. 

For now, Permian High School can also rest easy that Billy Bob Thornton won't be leaving their football program anytime soon either.  Next time I watch that movie they're gonna be favored by 3 points...

Jerry Jones needs to be the face of the Cowboys. Ask Jimmy Johnson. 

@orion said:

Do we know that for sure?  Will he not want his own shiny, new QB?  

If the Cowboys had signed Deion, there's no doubt drafting his son was a part of the deal. From the #12 spot, the Cowboys would have to give up a king's ransom to move up to #2. I see them sticking with Dak.

@berniesuperbowl2 said:

We can rule out the Cowboys trading up for Shedeur.

Do we know that for sure?  Will he not want his own shiny, new QB?  

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/43552501/cowboys-hire-coordinator-brian-schottenheimer-head-coach

@dutch-oven said:

The only reason John Lynch still is the GM is because he hit on the lottery ticket that is Brock Purdy...

There's some thought though that Purdy's shine is starting to come off, but still, that's a helluva pick. 

Understanding Lynch was hired on January 29th 2017 (another source has it as February 2017) - here's some other reasons he's still there: TE George Kittle rd 5 2017, WR Deebo Samuel rd 2 2019, DE Nick Bosa rd 1 2019, LB Dre Greenlau rd 5 2019, LB Fred Warner rd 3 2018, LG Aaron Banks rd 2 2021, RG Colton McKivitz rd 5 2020 (who re-joined SF as a FA 1 year later). That's without even looking at who the former SS drafted for their secondary because I don't know who their starters are...

@bob806 said:

...and somehow, they never got near the scrutiny for picking Trey Lance that they deserved. 

They got lucky that Purdy bailed them out.

The only reason John Lynch still is the GM is because he hit on the lottery ticket that is Brock Purdy...

There's some thought though that Purdy's shine is starting to come off, but still, that's a helluva pick. 

@syd said:

what ever happened to that dude ? last I heard he was in Dallas

Yes, I think he's still there. 3rd string behind Cooper Rush

@bob806 said:

Trey Lance

what ever happened to that dude ? last I heard he was in Dallas

@sdbacker80 said:

49ers went from 12 to 3 in 2021.

 Niners gave up three first round picks and a 3rd round pick. That kind of haul goes a long way in securing your QB for 2026. Maybe finds an heir apparent to Myles and reloads the offensive line.

At 12 give me a tackle.  

...and somehow, they never got near the scrutiny for picking Trey Lance that they deserved. 

They got lucky that Purdy bailed them out.

 Niners gave up three first round picks and a 3rd round pick. That kind of haul goes a long way in securing your QB for 2026. Maybe finds an heir apparent to Myles and reloads the offensive line.

At 12 give me a tackle.  

@orion said:

And Jimmy Haslem is the same way.  Glitzy!  New and Improved!  He'd like nothing more than to make headlines and draft Sanders' son!  

A different option, if you just plain hate the two top QB's, would be to trade to #12 with the Cowboys.  That way the two Sanders' could be together.  Unprecedented!   That's something that would be valued somewhat higher than a regular ol' trade.  We might be able to reacquire some/much of the Watson trade back for present and future use.  -  I know that that would be trading out of the top ten and probably losing the true blue chippers, but the haul would/should be substantial.    ( day dreaming )

Julio Jones

@orion said:

And Jimmy Haslem is the same way.  Glitzy!  New and Improved!  He'd like nothing more than to make headlines and draft Sanders' son!  

A different option, if you just plain hate the two top QB's, would be to trade to #12 with the Cowboys.  That way the two Sanders' could be together.  Unprecedented!   That's something that would be valued somewhat higher than a regular ol' trade.  We might be able to reacquire some/much of the Watson trade back for present and future use.  -  I know that that would be trading out of the top ten and probably losing the true blue chippers, but the haul would/should be substantial.    ( day dreaming )

Here's the thing - I don't know enough about either QB to hate their game.  That said, your your idea intrigues me and I'm guessing you're wanting more than simply swapping a 2nd pick for a 12th.

All that said, do we ever just let the draft fall to us?  It seems like the teams that often do that (ie: Baltimore) always seem to have great football players falling to them. Just prepare for the slots were in and draft the best rated guy that lands in our draft slot.

@flugel said:

Jerry Jones loves to make headlines, and there is no bigger way to take the NFL world by storm than by handing the keys to America's Team to Coach Prime Deion Sanders.

And Jimmy Haslem is the same way.  Glitzy!  New and Improved!  He'd like nothing more than to make headlines and draft Sanders' son!  

A different option, if you just plain hate the two top QB's, would be to trade to #12 with the Cowboys.  That way the two Sanders' could be together.  Unprecedented!   That's something that would be valued somewhat higher than a regular ol' trade.  We might be able to reacquire some/much of the Watson trade back for present and future use.  -  I know that that would be trading out of the top ten and probably losing the true blue chippers, but the haul would/should be substantial.    ( day dreaming )

@dutch-oven said:

I think you and I are pretty much in lock-step regarding this draft… trade down and get as much ammo for a QB in next year’s draft or if we stay at #2, Abdul Carter. 

Yes…that’s exactly what I want so we will have a 10% chance of it happening. 

@sdbacker80 said:

Yes, I said this a week ago as potential trade spot. Teams have to get ahead of the Giants. You get Shadeur locked up on much better deal. 
 

Im more interested in a first round next season - so you have the ammunition to get a QB in 2026. 
 

I think you and I are pretty much in lock-step regarding this draft… trade down and get as much ammo for a QB in next year’s draft or if we stay at #2, Abdul Carter. 

@syd said:

and who says deion cant hit

Okay, now it makes sense Syd.  If I wasn't so old - I would have remembered you're a big Reds fan.  Then again, I remember you're way older than I am with your birthday right around the corner again.  

@syd said:

as I remember he was a pretty damn good shut down corner, and as with ward he shouldn't be asked to tackle

Very talented!  Believe it or not, I enjoyed watching the guy especially when he was about to return a punt in an away game.  He'd put his hand up to the ear hole of his helmet and tilt his head to show the crowd he couldn't hear them.  Next thing you know he'd be taking it to the house. I think we all agree he was an exception to the rule as a shutdown corner that only Revis could somewhat compare to.  Those guys could close off a side of the field to a passing game.  Never said I didn't like the guy.

All that said, he's a coach now.  I can assure you he's not going to want to hear one of his RBs or WRs saying "I don't block" if they're needed to chip an edge rusher or step up to protect a QB if his team has a LT like Jed Wills.  On defense, if an opponent is getting outside running sweeps, off tackle or catching swing passes - is Coach Prime gonna be happy if his 2 or 3 corners on the field don't want to tackle?  FWIW, he just let one of his players play Wide Receiver and Cornerback - and it even worked. Do you know why?  The guy likes to win. 

@flugel said:

In memory of all Deion's previous business decision reminders of "I ain't here to tackle people" wouldn't you love to see a smart ass player ask him the following question?

"Hey Coach Prime we got Derrick Henry coming at us this week. Can you show us how to deliver a nice old school form tackle?"

Your buddy Flugel would pay to hear it and see it...

“Son I didnt give up receptions and any tackling was trying to tackle me”