@atenears said:

That was a stupid comment. Anderson made bad passes but, really, to have any chance at getting back into the game he had to try to force the issue by making vertical passes. What's the difference if you lose by 24 or 50? Taking what the offense gives you at the point of the second and third pick would only act to pad your stats.

That said, Brody freakin' Coyle put up a 118 passer rating against this same defense and a real QB (Rivers) lit them up for 440 yards.

I see no future in a guy who can't make the throws, though. And that looks to be Quinn. Save $11 million and invest it in the scouting department. This team is going to have the benefit of some high picks.

Sorry I posted on your DA rah rah board... But this makes Zero sense to me. They guy is making exactly the same mistakes he made last year..he has learned nothing, changed nothing.. his is exactly who he was last year.. 3 picks in a half..which should have been 4 or 5...He cannot even stand on his own 2 feet in the pocket without tripping over his clown shoes. No thanks.

@hammertime said:

God damn zombo, you're going senile.

@jadbf said:

At this point, I'd freaking alternate every other game with who starts. If your not winning and playing well by half time. the other guy goes in after the half. If the guy plays the 2nd half well, he earns the start for the next week.

I'd tell them, "until one of you figures out how to be a god damn QB, your both on a very short leash, go out and god damn do something."

So I'd start Quinn this week in Cincy, and if he's not producing, heck even after two full series, go back to Anderson.

I'm tired of both of them.

Not a bad idea. Make them prove they deserve it.

Maybe we should make a list and send it to them.

I think at this point it doesn't matter who the QB is. Put in Brady.....put in Manning......i'm not sure our team would win games. So to put this on Quinn and Anderson is either here nor there.

We need to start breaking this offense down and finding the root cancers......is our Oline perfect. No.....how can we make it better. Cribbs as a WR...not going so well......how about the hole in TE since Winslow left.......it's there........etc.etc. This doesn't even cover how crappy some of our defensive players are.

@pl4tinum said:

Let's promote the guy who just threw 3 interceptions and nearly another 2 in about 12 throws.

That's a nearly 50% interception rate, that'll win us some games!

Yeehaw!

Fvck that, bring on Ratliff... can't be any worse really.

never say it cant get worse. never.

Let's promote the guy who just threw 3 interceptions and nearly another 2 in about 12 throws.

That's a nearly 50% interception rate, that'll win us some games!

Yeehaw!

Fvck that, bring on Ratliff... can't be any worse really.

I also think whoever the QB is.....we have alot more serious problems.

Or the first Int from Quinn at 12:25 sec in the first quarter quinn throws an awful pass that leads the ravens in the redzone.....

AFTER a MONTH of Quinn taking the first team reps DA gets thrown into the game against the Ravens..... and actually moves the ball..... making first downs on 3rd downs...

Does he have a penchant for craziness? YES but Daboll does not do him any favors making him nonstop sling the rock when the ravens know it.....

Really what is the difference to a 40 yard bomb that turns into a int versus a dink and dunk that leads to a punt?

from the others teams standpoint they are getting the ball regardless from ours it at least changes the defensive sets to spread the field.

It is up to the play callers to start running the ball at that point and calling screens, and short slant routes....

DA needs to be leashed by good offensive play calling and planning plain and simple.... BUT AT LEAST HE NEEDS TO BE LEASHED.... quinn is like the poodle that you just let out because no one cares if he tries to bite you.

@sisky-fringo said:

you don't think DA is worried about making mistakes, or about being benched? he's been counted out so much...people consider him such a non-factor they think he got where he is by accident or something, like he has no drive or ambition.

i have never wavered on this board in years in saying i've seen improvement from the guy EVERY year. maybe it wasn't huge strides but he's worked on his game nonetheless and you can see it if you were looking for it. he was only throwing to one side of the field at first. then he cut down on the risks and had less picks (when not playing from behind mind you). then his footwork and touch showed some improvement. personally, i think when he drops back he looks pretty smooth out there. but hey, i'm looking for improvement tweaks, not dwelling on his faults that get beat to death here.

one of my favorite attributes of his is his short memory. i think it was phil simms or rich gannon that said in '07 they felt he had the perfect temperament to play QB. that's a big statement IMO, and for an accomplished QB to say it I listen. he's been yanked from starting multiple times yet i've never heard one person remark they are worried "his confidence might be shattered" etc. it's always downplayed that he has nothing to lose, like BJ said. i never worry if he'll bounce back. he's 2,000 miles from home with a fanbase out here the size of a hot dog line at the stadium and he still holds his head high. that's unflappable confidence. that's the type of a leader that people can feed off of. and his laid back attitude>>>when the going gets tough that's the type of personality that will calm down the huddle in a high pressure situation like the playoffs.

those are my favorite things about the guy. go figure, and i didn't even mention his arm.

Great post. I've seen this kid continue to work on his game as well. Yesterday called for airing it out at all cost, and he did. But for those who watched, DA's short passes were much improved and included a bit of touch on the ball as well.

I hope he starts, after getting all the reps and the game plan drawn around him. It's our only chance of offense we have.

Let's work with this kid, he is light years ahead of Quinn.

@calfoxwc said:

Clodhopper trips, flips, ints, and grins.

At least Quinn TRIES to get things happening.

Are you kidding?

@beefjerky said:

I think it's more so about Quinn not having any confidence, and having a lot of pressure knowing that with any mistake, he can be benched. DA has nothing to lose so he just airs it out.

i disagree jerky. i don't think it's because he has nothing to lose, he has MILLIONS to lose. he airs it out because that's who he is.

you don't think DA is worried about making mistakes, or about being benched? he's been counted out so much...people consider him such a non-factor they think he got where he is by accident or something, like he has no drive or ambition.

i have never wavered on this board in years in saying i've seen improvement from the guy EVERY year. maybe it wasn't huge strides but he's worked on his game nonetheless and you can see it if you were looking for it. he was only throwing to one side of the field at first. then he cut down on the risks and had less picks (when not playing from behind mind you). then his footwork and touch showed some improvement. personally, i think when he drops back he looks pretty smooth out there. but hey, i'm looking for improvement tweaks, not dwelling on his faults that get beat to death here.

one of my favorite attributes of his is his short memory. i think it was phil simms or rich gannon that said in '07 they felt he had the perfect temperament to play QB. that's a big statement IMO, and for an accomplished QB to say it I listen. he's been yanked from starting multiple times yet i've never heard one person remark they are worried "his confidence might be shattered" etc. it's always downplayed that he has nothing to lose, like BJ said. i never worry if he'll bounce back. he's 2,000 miles from home with a fanbase out here the size of a hot dog line at the stadium and he still holds his head high. that's unflappable confidence. that's the type of a leader that people can feed off of. and his laid back attitude>>>when the going gets tough that's the type of personality that will calm down the huddle in a high pressure situation like the playoffs.

those are my favorite things about the guy. go figure, and i didn't even mention his arm.

@atenears said:

I'll go with the interception machine the rest of the year. This season is toast anyway- like Quinn gave up almost 400 passing yards to Flacco- Hello, Sam Bradford\Colt McCoy.

Clodhopper trips, flips, ints, and grins.

At least Quinn TRIES to get things happening.

But it's not good football.

@dawgpound3 said:

LOL.....DA is a good QB? In what fantasy world?

@greythan said:

We already have that quantified and we saw it all in one half of football today.

1) How do you get sacked without getting touched? Watch DA fall down in the pocket when forced to move a little. He has no athleticism (sorry Z, but you're out to lunch on that one). None for an NFL QB. This isn't necessarily a huge deal, but we all know not to expect much if he has to move. (i.e., cockpit isn't perfect)

2) Decision making. Rusty? Sure, maybe. Watch the first INT again. Where, exactly, did he think that ball would fit other than into the defender's hip? That wasn't trying to make something happen, that was just an awful decision. 2 more INT's follow.

3) Accuracy. His nearly fourth INT on the pass to Furrey.

Maybe he gives us the best chance to win, but that's only because we don't have another option if indeed its "stick a fork in Quinn time". Its too bad, because I think being forced to "invest" more development time in DA is most likely a poor bet.

Someone suggested the turf sacked him. I don't have a recording but that's not what I remember seeing.

I don't believe the turf had much, if anything to do with that sack. I think he was hearing footsteps. (Whether they were there or not.) He's not without athleticism. He used to run high hurdles.

Both QBs looked like they were playing scared and feared getting the hook after the next down.

At least the HC did get to see both QBs play against the same #2 defense from last season.