@flugel said:

Incredible!  He'll probably land on one of the teams we hate in the AFC North. 

A standin for Henry in very short yardage situations? Less wear and tear on the older RB extends his usefulness in the 4th Q.

@syd said:

Incredible!  He'll probably land on one of the teams we hate in the AFC North. 

@orion said:

Kinda' reminds me of that whack-job Peyton Hillis we had a while back.  He had a 4 on his jersey too.

this guy can hold onto the ball,Hillis uumm well. seemed to have a problem with that 

@syd said:

Kinda' reminds me of that whack-job Peyton Hillis we had a while back.  He had a 4 on his jersey too.

@dutch-oven said:

while one did accurately predict Kansas City losing it. No winner for this category.

...I dunno...essentially, you had to pick who would win and who would lose.  DBone was the only one to get one of 'em right.  He has the highest score.  He is alone and untied at the top of the standings.  I think the rule book should be consulted under the Cone Of Silence.  Or in a blue tent.  

@syd said:

#woof

@bob806 said:

Grab a bruiser-type RB in the draft mid rounds to help Ford out. 

@dutch-oven said:

8. Who leads the Browns in rushing in 2024? How many yards?

Bob806: Ford, 1067
DBone: Ford, 1005
SDBacker80: Ford, 887
Flugel: Ford, 925
AP1: Ford, 1050
syd: Ford, 756
Ibleedbrown: Strong, 1320
DutchOven: Chubb, 850
mjp28: Ford, 1235

Answer: Jerome Ford lead the Browns in rushing with 565 yards. Other notables were Nick Chubb (332 yards), D'Onta Foreman (232) and Pierre Strong (108). 

Winner Winner Chicken Dinner: It was RB by committee in 2024 for the Browns, but I admit, I was kind of shocked to find out that Ford had a prime Nick Chubb average per carry (5.4). With virtually the same amount of rushes as Chubb, Ford rushed for 200+ more yards as Chubb post-knee surgery. Most of us predicted Ford leading the team, but were way optimistic on the yardage. syd wins this question.

And the 'Big Dummy Award' goes to... Many thanks to Ibleedbrown for saving me from winning this dubious award! Pierre Strong was a bold choice, and Ibleedbrown is a bold man!

I think Ford is above average. He's not a 20+ carry guy every week, but he's shown he can make some plays. 

I think he's still under the rookie deal to, an added bonus for this roster.

Grab a bruiser-type RB in the draft mid rounds to help Ford out. 

Bob806: Cleveland over Atlanta
DBone: San Francisco over Kansas City
SDBacker80: San Francisco over Houston
Flugel: Kansas City over Detroit
AP1: Cleveland over Detroit
syd: Cleveland over San Francisco
Ibleedbrown: Buffalo over Chicago
DutchOven: Kansas City over San Francisco
mjp28: Cleveland over San Francisco

Answer: The Philadelphia Eagles beat the Kansas City Chiefs 40-22 to win Super Bowl 59. 

Winner Winner Chicken Dinner: Not a soul predicted the Eagles to play in the Super Bowl, while one did accurately predict Kansas City losing it. No winner for this category.

And the 'Big Dummy Award' goes to... An argument could be made that everyone but Flugel could win this. San Francisco was a popular pick who went 6-11 and finished in last place in the NFC West. There has been a long-standing rule on Dutch's Questions that dates back to Red's Questions on the old ESPN Browns message board though... if you pick the Browns, especially to win the Super Bowl, well.... ? Bob806, AP1, Syd and mjp28 for one last time wear the goat horns on this question.

Well gentlemen, this concludes another rousing (and perhaps arousing) installment of Dutch's Browns Questions! As always, it's been a hoot, and I'll see you this coming fall for another fun-filled Browns season to predict!

Bob806: 3-2-1
DBone: 2-4
SDBacker80: 3-3
Flugel: 3-3
AP1: 5-1
syd: 4-2
Ibleedbrown: 3-3
DutchOven: 2-4
mjp28: 4-2

Answer: The Browns went 2-4 vs their AFC North rivals. 

Winner Winner Chicken Dinner: The highlights of this miserable season were the home wins vs Baltimore and Pittsburgh, the second a Thursday night game played in blizzard-like conditions. DBone and DutchOven for the win.

And the 'Big Dummy Award' goes to... AP1 was going for the gusto with his predictions for the Browns this season! 

Bob806: 22
DBone: 22.5
SDBacker80: 21
Flugel: 20
AP1: 26
syd: 24
Ibleedbrown: 22
DutchOven: 20
mjp28: 33

Answer: Garrett and Smith combined for 19 sacks for the Browns. 

Winner Winner Chicken Dinner: Smith was another veteran traded prior to the trade deadline when it became obvious the season was lost, or the combined total would have been higher. Garrett had 14 sacks in yet another Pro-Bowl year for him, Smith added 5. Flugel and DutchOven share the sweet taste of victory.

And the 'Big Dummy Award' goes to... If you add Smith's 4 sacks he had in Detroit, the total would have been 23 for the season between the two DEnds. That still makes mjp's prediction on the very optimistic side. 

Bob806: Njoku, 68
DBone: Njoku, 74
SDBacker80: Tillman, 59
Flugel: Njoku, 73
AP1: Njoku, 70
syd: Njoku, 68
Ibleedbrown: Njoku, 64
DutchOven: Jeudy, 70
mjp28: Njoku, 75

Answer: David Njoku finished second to Jerry Jeudy with 64 receptions. Other notables were Elijah Moore (61 receptions), Jordan Akins (40), Cedric Tillman (29) and Amari Cooper (24). 

Winner Winner Chicken Dinner: The Chief was a popular choice, as he's become one of the better tight ends in the NFL. It's hard to believe he's been with the Browns for eight seasons now, and he's now #3 in team history in receptions, behind Dante Lavelli (including AAFC totals) and Ozzie Newsome. Seven posters chose Njoku, but Ibleedbrown nailed it on the head!

And the 'Big Dummy Award' goes to... Jerry Jeudy actually did better than the 70 receptions I predicted, so I'll give myself a pass... I hesitate to give hang this shame on SDBacker80, because if not for a concussion that sidelined Cedric Tillman for the last handful of games he probably would have ended up close to his prediction. No big dummy on this one. 

Jamari Thrash is a badass name. I wish my name was Jamari Thrash. I was actually pretty confident that Jamari Thrash would be a solid out-of-the box choice for this question. Did anyone catch fewer passes than Jamari Thrash last year?

I’m gonna double up. Jamari Thrash is going to throw down the gauntlet this year. He’s gonna break necks turning heads. Look out for Jamari Thrash in 2025. 

Bob806: Cooper, 75
DBone: Cooper, 79
SDBacker: Njoku, 72
Flugel: Cooper, 75
AP1: Cooper, 85
syd: Cooper, 90
Ibleedbrown: Thrash, 66
DutchOven: Cooper, 80
mjp28: Cooper, 85

Answer: Newcomer Jerry Jeudy lead the Browns with 90 receptions. 

Winner Winner Chicken Dinner: Browns GM Andrew Berry might not knock your socks off drafting, but the guy can trade for veteran WRs with the best of them. A few years ago he practically stole Amari Cooper from the Cowboys in what was basically a salary dump, in the off-season prior to the 2024 season he made another shrewd move by trading for Jerry Jeudy of the Broncos. Berry wasn't planning on extending Cooper, so he just gave Jeudy an extension and traded Cooper for a third round pick from Buffalo during the season, after Cooper played with all the enthusiasm of a wet sock for the Browns. Nary a soul pegged Jeudy as the leading receiver, so no winner for this category, ONE YEAR!

And the 'Big Dummy Award' goes to... Now, a person might say all the people who picked Cooper were big dummies, but I think there's one predictor, a rather bold young lad who rose above all to grab this award with panache - Ibleedbrown with his selection of Jamari Thrash, who had all of 3 receptions! 

No no…

Bob806: Ford, 1067
DBone: Ford, 1005
SDBacker80: Ford, 887
Flugel: Ford, 925
AP1: Ford, 1050
syd: Ford, 756
Ibleedbrown: Strong, 1320
DutchOven: Chubb, 850
mjp28: Ford, 1235

Answer: Jerome Ford lead the Browns in rushing with 565 yards. Other notables were Nick Chubb (332 yards), D'Onta Foreman (232) and Pierre Strong (108). 

Winner Winner Chicken Dinner: It was RB by committee in 2024 for the Browns, but I admit, I was kind of shocked to find out that Ford had a prime Nick Chubb average per carry (5.4). With virtually the same amount of rushes as Chubb, Ford rushed for 200+ more yards as Chubb post-knee surgery. Most of us predicted Ford leading the team, but were way optimistic on the yardage. syd wins this question.

And the 'Big Dummy Award' goes to... Many thanks to Ibleedbrown for saving me from winning this dubious award! Pierre Strong was a bold choice, and Ibleedbrown is a bold man!

@dutch-oven said:

7. How many games are started at QB by people not named Deshaun Watson in 2024?

Bob806: 2
DBone: 10
SDBacker80: 4
Flugel: 2
AP1: 10
syd: 2
Ibleedbrown: 3
DutchOven: 7
mjp28: 3

Answer: Watson - coming off a throwing shoulder injury that ended his season in 2023 prematurely - was only able to make 7 starts in 2024 before suffering a season-ending Achilles tear. In the 10 other games, Jameis Winston started 7, Dorian Thompson-Robinson 2 and Bailey Zappe 1. 

Winner Winner Chicken Dinner: While no one thought he was going to go all Iron Horse and start all the games, a few of us had doubts he'd play most of them. DBone and AP1 nailed this one.

And the 'Big Dummy Award' goes to... Bob806, Flugel and syd all ended up being wildly optimistic in what will end up being Watson's last season as the Browns starting QB. He reinjured his Achilles this off-season, resulting in another surgery, pretty much guaranteeing he won't sniff the field in 2025.  

In fairness, we needed to give MJP a break from having our backs throughout these terrifying results.

Bob806: 2
DBone: 10
SDBacker80: 4
Flugel: 2
AP1: 10
syd: 2
Ibleedbrown: 3
DutchOven: 7
mjp28: 3

Answer: Watson - coming off a throwing shoulder injury that ended his season in 2023 prematurely - was only able to make 7 starts in 2024 before suffering a season-ending Achilles tear. In the 10 other games, Jameis Winston started 7, Dorian Thompson-Robinson 2 and Bailey Zappe 1. 

Winner Winner Chicken Dinner: While no one thought he was going to go all Iron Horse and start all the games, a few of us had doubts he'd play most of them. DBone and AP1 nailed this one.

And the 'Big Dummy Award' goes to... Bob806, Flugel and syd all ended up being wildly optimistic in what will end up being Watson's last season as the Browns starting QB. He reinjured his Achilles this off-season, resulting in another surgery, pretty much guaranteeing he won't sniff the field in 2025.  

@dutch-oven said:

6. How many yards, touchdowns and interceptions does Watson throw for in 2024?

Bob806: 3717, 31, 14
DBone: 1554, 7, 10
SDBacker80: 2897, 16, 10
Flugel: 3475, 22, 12
AP1: 2500, 20, 10
syd: 3952, 22, 6
Ibleedbrown: 2984, 24, 18
DutchOven: 2500, 14, 9
mjp28: 4009, 39, 13

Answer: Coming back from throwing shoulder surgery - an injury that ended his 2023 season prematurely - Watson looked tentative in the new offense rebuilt for him in the seven starts he made before suffering another season ending injury, this time an Achilles tendon tear. He threw for 1148 yards and 5 touchdowns vs 3 interceptions, for a 79.o QB rating.

Winner Winner Chicken Dinner: Welp, the Deshaun Watson Browns Era is pretty much over now. Mentally, the off-the-field nonsense the Browns gleefully signed up for has shot his confidence, and physically he's now a shell of his former arguably Top 5 QB self of 2018-20. It is apparent the Browns are moving on, and with him reinjuring his Achilles recently, he probably couldn't see the field this season even if he wanted to. I guess DBone would be the closest for the win. 

And the Big Dummy Award goes to... Watson's last three starts of 2023, before his season ended with a broken shoulder, were actually pretty good... I'm guessing that was why mjp28 was so optimistic for him going into this season. 

MJP has our back again!  

Bob806: 3717, 31, 14
DBone: 1554, 7, 10
SDBacker80: 2897, 16, 10
Flugel: 3475, 22, 12
AP1: 2500, 20, 10
syd: 3952, 22, 6
Ibleedbrown: 2984, 24, 18
DutchOven: 2500, 14, 9
mjp28: 4009, 39, 13

Answer: Coming back from throwing shoulder surgery - an injury that ended his 2023 season prematurely - Watson looked tentative in the new offense rebuilt for him in the seven starts he made before suffering another season ending injury, this time an Achilles tendon tear. He threw for 1148 yards and 5 touchdowns vs 3 interceptions, for a 79.o QB rating.

Winner Winner Chicken Dinner: Welp, the Deshaun Watson Browns Era is pretty much over now. Mentally, the off-the-field nonsense the Browns gleefully signed up for has shot his confidence, and physically he's now a shell of his former arguably Top 5 QB self of 2018-20. It is apparent the Browns are moving on, and with him reinjuring his Achilles recently, he probably couldn't see the field this season even if he wanted to. I guess DBone would be the closest for the win. 

And the Big Dummy Award goes to... Watson's last three starts of 2023, before his season ended with a broken shoulder, were actually pretty good... I'm guessing that was why mjp28 was so optimistic for him going into this season. 

@texasag1969 said:

I could swear I answered all these. I must have screwed up posting it somehow. That is not beyond comprehension since now I can't find my "paste" function to drop youtube stuff with. Somehow it's just "lost".?‍? 

I went through multiple times when you and Browns149 mentioned earlier that you both thought you filled this out. Neither of you fine gentlemen did. 

@texasag1969 said:

I could swear I answered all these. I must have screwed up posting it somehow. That is not beyond comprehension since now I can't find my "paste" function to drop youtube stuff with. Somehow it's just "lost".?‍? 

Aggies, I think it went to Billy Bob Thornton... Stay tuned?

Bob806: 422, 343
DBone: 366, 391
SDBacker80: 384, 371
Flugel: 419, 355
AP1: 420, 360
syd: 442, 320
Ibleedbrown: 289, 312
DutchOven: 375, 375
mjp28: 445, 332

Answer: The Browns scored 258 points in 2024 (15.2 per game) and allowed 435 points (25.6).

Winner Winner Chicken Dinner: Ouch. Allowing on average 10 more points per game than you score is how you end up 3-14. I still contend that the Browns defense wasn't as bad as it showed, when the offense actually showed life the defense had moments that reminded you of the good defense we saw for about half of 2023. But the Browns offense ranked last in the NFL in points scored, and only slightly better on points allowed (27th). Honestly, no one deserves a tasty dinner on this one. 

And the 'Big Dummy Award' goes to... On the other hand, virtually all of us could deserve this one. mjp28 edges out syd by one point to "win" this dubious honor.