@fy56 said:

Oh please, spare me the  “I need statistics” cop out …because you’re cornered. You and Woody, two peas in a pod.

It’s not an opinion, it’s a fact formed by actual events, not here-say.

Neither of you deniers should need statistics to provide instances that equate to the violence either perpetrated or condoned by leftists since you believe both sides are equal partners in crime. 

Look what these assholes said and did: 

I highly doubt the Hamas supporter who recently  killed two Jews at a museum was a conservative, so you can throw that one out.

The 2 assassination attempts on Trump? Yep they were lefties.

The “mostly peaceful” George Floyd protests that caused 2 billion in damages? BLM and Antifa. Most likely not conservatives.

The recent unrest at colleges and universities? There again, liberals. It’s always liberals.

Vandalizing Tesla vehicles? Lefties again.

Politicians implying confronting and being violent toward Republicans. It certainly isn’t Republicans.

When did a conservative try to run onto  a stage attempting to assault Obama during a speech.

When did conservatives block traffic and disrupt Obama rallies?

Those are great anecdotal examples FY. Well done. I know assholery when l see it. You’re doing a fine job pointing out instances of assholery. 

Again, you are free to have your opinion. This isn’t my battle to prove or disprove. It’s an unprovable thing. In my tongue and cheek way l was trying to convey that. 

You could be right. I’m open to that. I like statistics to move my needle. You have seen enough and you don’t need statistics. That’s fine for you. 

But if the theory is “lefties are more prone to violence than righties”, then yeah, there is a formula to break that down and l wanna see it. You should thank me for this next level thinking to prove your point. 

Again, this conversation requires going through every instance you think is violence and you think is a liberal and confirming both statements 

Equally, we can just say conservatives are more prone to racism. I can make that statement based on racist statements and acts by conservatives. And I don't need any data, according to Gorka. 

@ibleedbrown said:

You’re free to form your opinion based on whatever does it for you. I like statistics. 

I don’t think we have anyone here anymore who enjoys participating in anecdotal offs, at least from the left perspective. I recall that guy cccjwh would participate in such things. Not my cup of tea, but it was wild watching everyone try their best to rub faces in whatever assholery was going on at the time. 

Look at what this asshole did!

Oh yeah, well look at what this asshole did! 

Oh yeah? Well look at what this asshole said.. 

It was fun to read to a point. I hope you find your dance partner. 

Oh please, spare me the  “I need statistics” cop out …because you’re cornered. You and Woody, two peas in a pod.

It’s not an opinion, it’s a fact formed by actual events, not here-say.

Neither of you deniers should need statistics to provide instances that equate to the violence either perpetrated or condoned by leftists since you believe both sides are equal partners in crime. 

Look what these assholes said and did: 

The guy who attempted to shoot and kill Republicans at a baseball game was a Bernie Sanders supporter.

I highly doubt the Hamas supporter who recently  killed two Jews at a museum was a conservative, so you can throw that one out.

The recent democrat “lawmakers” that stormed an ICE facility.

The 2 assassination attempts on Trump? Yep they were lefties.

The “mostly peaceful” George Floyd protests that caused 2 billion in damages? BLM and Antifa. Most likely not conservatives.

The recent unrest at colleges and universities? There again, liberals. It’s always liberals.

Vandalizing Tesla vehicles? Lefties again.

Politicians implying confronting and being violent toward Republicans. It certainly isn’t Republicans.

When did a conservative try to run onto  a stage attempting to assault Obama during a speech.

When did conservatives block traffic and disrupt Obama rallies?

@calfoxwc said:

so, you find your women's panties at K-Mart.

too much information. I guess you are joining up with the woodpecker to screw up this forum.

It’s a reference from the movie Rainman. Good flick if you haven’t seen it.

You turned a little Rainman-ny on us last night. Good to see you snap back into form. 

@fy56 said:

Face palm.

I’ll try again.
86’ d (note the ‘d) was uttered by Gaetz AFTER THE SAID INDIVIDUALS WERE REMOVED, indicating mission accomplished, therefore it couldn’t have possibly meant to assassinate you simpleton.

So yes, Comey’s posting of 8647 could be advocating for Trumps death. Comey wasn’t brought in for questioning for nothing other than that. and by what other means would you get rid of Trump at this stage of the game?

Dont be what you accuse Cal of.

More than Gaetz on the right have used the term 86

Trump has directly advocated for violence. 

Cal is a moron and a politically brainwashed one at that. That's not an accusation. That's fact. 

@ibleedbrown said:

I buy my underwear at K-Mart

so, you find your women's panties at K-Mart.

too much information. I guess you are joining up with the woodpecker to screw up this forum.

@mld-woody said:

So when the Reps, multiple Reps, use it, it means remove or impeach

But when Comey, a former Rep, uses it, then it totally definitely means assassinate?

You're gonna strain something pearl clutching 

Face palm.

I’ll try again.
86’ d (note the ‘d) was uttered by Gaetz AFTER THE SAID INDIVIDUALS WERE REMOVED, indicating mission accomplished, therefore it couldn’t have possibly meant to assassinate you simpleton.

So yes, Comey’s posting of 8647 could be advocating for Trumps death. Comey wasn’t brought in for questioning for nothing other than that. and by what other means would you get rid of Trump at this stage of the game?

Dont be what you accuse Cal of.

@fy56 said:

lol Statistics?
We don’t have to show you any stinkin statistics.

That’s  a cop out. You know it is.

The evidence is glaring.

I’ve presented many examples. It’s your job to prove otherwise. Google is a great place to start.

Violence, wishing or implying death from the left goes way back..

A quote from Demonrat Representative Tim Horrigan…

In a thread relating to the plane crash that killed former Alaska Sen. Ted Stevens this week, Halloran wrote, "Just wish Sarah and Levy were on board." The comment appeared to be in reference to Palin and the father of her grandson, Levi Johnston.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/new-hampshire-lawmaker-resigns-after-dead-palin-comment/

You’re not aware of the recent storming of an ICE office by democrat “lawmakers” (sort of an oxymoron eh?), or perhaps an example of irony …then having the gall to proclaim it was justified ? That is a testament of them being inherently prone to violence. 
Like the liberal thug on the street, they believe that they are entitled to it.

Now all you have to is provide evidence that a group of Republicans behaved in that manner because of something they didn’t like.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dem-lawmakers-defend-storming-ice-facility-say-trump-admin-lying-all-levels

You’re free to form your opinion based on whatever does it for you. I like statistics. 

I don’t think we have anyone here anymore who enjoys participating in anecdotal offs, at least from the left perspective. I recall that guy cccjwh would participate in such things. Not my cup of tea, but it was wild watching everyone try their best to rub faces in whatever assholery was going on at the time. 

Look at what this asshole did!

Oh yeah, well look at what this asshole did! 

Oh yeah? Well look at what this asshole said.. 

It was fun to read to a point. I hope you find your dance partner. 

@ibleedbrown said:

I just told you, it will take statistics. If the hypothesis is “lefties are more prone to violence than righties”, then you do what any reasonable person would do if the goal is to prove that. You use statistics. 

Get the names of all violent offenders over a specific period of time in a specific region. Then figure out their political affiliation, and boom, now you have statistics. 

It’s basically an impossible task, which means this is an impossible argument. 

lol Statistics?
We don’t have to show you any stinkin statistics.

That’s  a cop out. You know it is.

The evidence is glaring.

I’ve presented many examples. It’s your job to prove otherwise. Google is a great place to start.

Violence, wishing or implying death from the left goes way back..

A quote from Demonrat Representative Tim Horrigan…

In a thread relating to the plane crash that killed former Alaska Sen. Ted Stevens this week, Halloran wrote, "Just wish Sarah and Levy were on board." The comment appeared to be in reference to Palin and the father of her grandson, Levi Johnston.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/new-hampshire-lawmaker-resigns-after-dead-palin-comment/

You’re not aware of the recent storming of an ICE office by democrat “lawmakers” (sort of an oxymoron eh?), or perhaps an example of irony …then having the gall to proclaim it was justified ? That is a testament of them being inherently prone to violence. 
Like the liberal thug on the street, they believe that they are entitled to it.

Now all you have to is provide evidence that a group of Republicans behaved in that manner because of something they didn’t like.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dem-lawmakers-defend-storming-ice-facility-say-trump-admin-lying-all-levels

@ibleedbrown said:

I buy my underwear at K-Mart

You as well, thanks for discussing things intelligently.

@calfoxwc said:

woodpecker refuses to say Laken Riley's name.....

Well ok then, you made that bit up about the praying grandma. No worries, not out of character.

At least you’re actually quoting Woody instead of inserting goofy peck/fart things. Thanks for discussing things intelligently. 

@calfoxwc said:

woodpecker refuses to say Laken Riley's name.....

I understand that part. I was asking about who here claimed “a grandma in a wheelchair praying outside of an abortion clinic” was an act of violence? Was it Woody? Or Nickers? Or me?

@mld-woody said:

and we don't agree on what is considered violence 

woodpecker refuses to say Laken Riley's name.....

@calfoxwc said:

But you think a Grandma in a wheelchair PRAYING outside of an abortion clinic is violence?

   The point of debate is to discuss things intelligently

You’re spot on there Calf, discuss things intelligently. 

I don’t recall anyone claiming a woman in a wheelchair praying was a violent act. Please link that for me so that l can make fun of them as well. That’s a ridiculous thing to say. 

@mld-woody said:

*LIE* *FART* peck peck

baloney. Say Laken Riley's name. Or continue to be an ostrich woodpecker.

@ibleedbrown said:

I just told you, it will take statistics. If the hypothesis is “lefties are more prone to violence than righties”, then you do what any reasonable person would do if the goal is to prove that. You use statistics. 

Get the names of all violent offenders over a specific period of time in a specific region. Then figure out their political affiliation, and boom, now you have statistics. 

It’s basically an impossible task, which means this is an impossible argument. 

This group will also take ten news stories about illegal immigrant violence and extrapolate it over millions of people 

Definitely nothing else influencing their decision....

@nickers said:

How much more evidence do you need that the left are violent race baiting ,gaslighting commies?...

Wake up lol..

I just told you, it will take statistics. If the hypothesis is “lefties are more prone to violence than righties”, then you do what any reasonable person would do if the goal is to prove that. You use statistics. 

Get the names of all violent offenders over a specific period of time in a specific region. Then figure out their political affiliation, and boom, now you have statistics. 

It’s basically an impossible task, which means this is an impossible argument. 

@mld-woody said:

Again, a large portion of this board thinks Jan 6th didn't happen, or it wasn't actually that bad, or it was an inside job / false flag, etc. 

What's your reality, they were mostly peaceful protests? That 6 feet of separation and masks saved lives? Biden was fine all up until his last debate with Trump?

That men are women and can have babies? Russia collusion is why Trump won the 1st election? Hunters laptop was compromised or didn't exist? It was a staffers cocaine in the WH?

Funny for someone in your reality to criticize anything.

@mld-woody said:

So when the Reps, multiple Reps, use it, it means remove or impeach

But when Comey, a former Rep, uses it, then it totally definitely means assassinate?

You're gonna strain something pearl clutching 

Funny he denied knowing what it even meant. That tells me his thoughts.

@mld-woody said:

*FART* PECK PECK PECK

you don't agree about what violence is? You won't say Laken Riley's name, or any other name who has been raped and murdered etc ?

But you think a Grandma in a wheelchair PRAYING outside of an abortion clinic is violence?

   The point of debate is to discuss things intelligently, but you nave never done it.

Will it never end?

@ibleedbrown said:

It’s an easy enough concept to prove. All you need are all the names of violent crime offenders and their respective political affiliations. It’ll take some sorting.

Aside from that, all there really is are opinion pieces and anecdotal instances to prove that the left has a greater propensity for violence than the right. You could be correct, but l don’t think anyone here has the time or gumption to unequivocally prove that. 

This is akin to the “all righties are racists” argument because some republican made a questionable comment. Maybe righties do have a greater propensity to be racists? But how the heck to you unequivocally prove that? You really can’t without an unreasonable amount of research. 

You also get into the area where we don't agree on who is left or right, and we don't agree on what is considered violence 

Again, a large portion of this board thinks Jan 6th didn't happen, or it wasn't actually that bad, or it was an inside job / false flag, etc. 

If we can't agree on basic reality anymore then what is the point of trying to debate anything?