Assuming that we started with 90, there would be 16 more to cut before Tuesday at 4pm.

The Cleveland Browns have made the following roster moves:

@syd said:

i just got through watching a interview with #12 and he all most made it sound like this could be his last game as a Brown

I saw that one and I saw another with part of that clip and the assurance of several experts saying they thought he might start out as #3 and that possibly the Browns carry 4 QB's on the 53 to include Pickett as that #4. They said the reason they thought Gabriel would be #2 was that he operated the offense within the pocket better that Sanders did. After seeing tia's tape I hope he reads this and has a comment about what they are saying on that inside the pocket issue.

@syd said:

i just got through watching a interview with #12 and he all most made it sound like this could be his last game as a Brown

Hmm.  Interesting.  I can only guess that he's seeing them treat Gabriel like he's the favorite son.  But I personally don't see Sanders being cut.  

@syd said:

i just got through watching a interview with #12 and he all most made it sound like this could be his last game as a Brown

Sure hope not, keep the 2 rookie QBs

@orion said:

August 26th.  

i just got through watching a interview with #12 and he all most made it sound like this could be his last game as a Brown

@syd said:

so when is cut down day ?

August 26th.  

@dutch-oven said:

Martin Emerson's season ending injury has put the Browns secondary in flux. 

 Em, plus you have questionable safety play.   Week 1 vs CIN should be fun. 

 Edit:  something I noticed more of in PSW2 - 2 high shells. 

@dutch-oven said:

Martin Emerson's season ending injury has put the Browns secondary in flux. 

While true, it's not like Emerson wasn't the bullseye of every opponent. Not that I put a lot of stock in PFF; but Emerson's PFF score was 47.9 last year. This ranked him 194th out of 222 cornerbacks.  His coverage grade was 48.4 which ranked him 111th out of 116 corners per Google AI's summary from PFF...

Point is?  We forfeited bettering this position in the draft to select 2 rookie QBs and 2 rookie RBs.  Even if Emerson stayed healthy, the problem doesn't change.  Teams will exploit him.  I'm okay with the 2 QBs but whether people like or hate Jerome Ford - he averaged 5.4 yards a carry with Duce Staley as his position coach last year (to give us an experience RB in the rotation).  I know he's not the dream in here; but he would have worked well splitting reps with TreVeyon Henderson - I mean...

We have Pickett here if anyone in the league loses a starting QB that would be willing to give up a Corner...

@orion said:

Well, of course Hospital Ward is hurt.  

Water is wet

@syd said:

Denzal Ward hurt his shoulder in practice today

Well, of course Hospital Ward is hurt.  

@unsympathetic said:

When you add the Michelin CrossClimate2's to the CX5, it holds the road like an entirely different car.  Obviously no Vette, but the OEM's are weak sauce compared to the CrossClimate2's.  I have a 2020 CX5 with the turbo [same engine as the 2025] and just put my second pair of crossclimates on.  That tire is the top performer in all weather, not just snow&rain.  Tirerack ratings are occasionally correct.

Tia, am I too early in calling McGuire finally the bookend opposite MG that makes DL the top strength of the team?

I wouldn't say "bookend".  This isn't Freeney and Mathis 2.0.   But I see McGuire as a solid compliment.  I'm every bit, if not more interested in seeing what Graham, Hall and possibly Kamara bring to the interior rush.  

 If the whole thing gets going, then they'll be the top unit of the team.  (Still worried about Collins as a starter though) 

@orion said:

Then bought a new Mazda CX-5.  Premium Plus trim so I could have the Heads Up Display, Adaptive Headlight and heated rear seats.  

When you add the Michelin CrossClimate2's to the CX5, it holds the road like an entirely different car.  Obviously no Vette, but the OEM's are weak sauce compared to the CrossClimate2's.  I have a 2020 CX5 with the turbo [same engine as the 2025] and just put my second pair of crossclimates on.  That tire is the top performer in all weather, not just snow&rain.  Tirerack ratings are occasionally correct.

Tia, am I too early in calling McGuire finally the bookend opposite MG that makes DL the top strength of the team?

@orion said:

I wouldn't have drafted a midget QB.  

Easy with that.  Stings. 

@tiamat63 said:

 I notice you've mentioned this a few times.  I don't believe anyone is denying the Browns had a draft plan/strategy.  I also don't see anyone begrudging them for having a plan in place either. 

 However comma just having a plan doesn't make it ....not.....retarded. 

Which is why I said to Dutch that he could call them dipshits if he wanted...and that he might be right.

I wouldn't have drafted Gabriel.  Because I don't like little QB's.  But when Stef & Berry were watching tape of him they kept asking each other, Where does his height come into play negatively?   So they didn't see his size being a problem with him.

As a draft unfolds, your draft plan may need to be tweaked.  We talk about them drafting 2 QB's as not being part of the plan because Sanders fell to round 5.  But does anyone think that they went into the draft planning on drafting 2 RB's?  I think that when they saw Sampson available in round 4 they shifted gears and grabbed him because he was appraised at a higher value and they were revamping the RB position anyway.  

I wouldn't have drafted a midget QB.  But his numbers were right up there with the higher rated QB's in the draft class.

@orion said:

You can call them dipshits.  And you might be right in doing so.  But it was their plan to draft him.  

 I notice you've mentioned this a few times.  I don't believe anyone is denying the Browns had a draft plan/strategy.  I also don't see anyone begrudging them for having a plan in place either. 

 However comma just having a plan doesn't make it ....not.....retarded. 

 You can compliment the front office and how they stuck to their strategy. Bravo.   But it was a questionable strategy.  I rarely bury anyone before they're dead, but Dillon had some serious struggles in camp that are a direct result of him being small for the QB position. 

 But the Browns figured, hey, Russell Wilson was drafted in the 3rd round, why not this one?  Because that's the extent of the logic I can find when I popped on film from Oregon. 

 The Weezy effect.  Wilson and Brees gave people a belief that height can be a rule, not an exception. 

I'll be streaming the HoF game on the BrainyBallers.com    Discord.  

https://discord.gg/wxMcDbuy  

Anyone and everyone is welcomed to join, watch the game and talk shop with us.  We'll be on for the whole game.  

Dylan Sampson has what it takes to lead the Browns rushing attack

@dutch-oven said:

Then let another team make the stupid move, dipshits. 

You can call them dipshits.  And you might be right in doing so.  But it was their plan to draft him.  They had him ranked as the #2 QB in the draft.  They got into the 3rd round and decided to nab their QB and not have to think about that position again until next year's draft.  Then, of course, Saturday happened.  

@dutch-oven said:

And I heard/read someone from the Browns said something along the lines of: 

"We grabbed Dillon in the 3rd because it was apparent he wasn't going to last much longer"

Then let another team make the stupid move, dipshits. 

"Glittering prizes"  

 I believe there's a certain amount of over or under valuation through proximity with prospects at time.

 A group think, so to speak.    Whether that other teams valuation of said prospect was legit or smoke screen.