@tiamat63 said:

Absolutely wild stat.

I'm certain we could've beaten those stats...if we had a QB that could last that many games.   

@ibleedbrown said:

"This lil piggy went to the... "WHAT?!?!"

@dutch-oven said:

It is. 

My high school was actually one of the first places in the nation to install it back in 1999. Definitely has more give than Astroturf, which was just a thin carpet on top of concrete. 

my son while in high school played rugby on that crap,they hated it

@dutch-oven said:

https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/17590-turf-toe

Makes sense that it would be a big problem, with possible torn ligaments in your big toe.

They need a better, more catastrophic-sounding name for it though. "Turf Toe" makes it sound like a stubbed toe or something lame. ?

Yeah, they give these severe injuries benign sounding names to hide how horrific the injuries from the sport are. "High ankle sprain" is another when it's actually the bones of the lower leg that are separated and or broken.

@clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

Who has a better shot at wildcard, Browns or Bengals?
I wonder if they trade for a QB like Cousins 

The Browns' roster has some nice players but after two games, it's clear the offense isn't playoff worthy. 

WRs not separating, dropping balls. It's causing a very conservative approach, which gets you nowhere 

Still way too early but my optimism is dying. 

@dutch-oven said:

I hate that Ohio State also has Field Turf, but from what I've heard/read they really, really struggle to keep grass alive at Ohio Stadium for some reason, hence the fake turf.

I don't think I'll ever get used to the Browns playing on turf once they move to Brookpark, assuming it actually happens. 

Agree.

Where's Eric Metcalf when you need him lol. The quick guys excel on turf, that's about it, maybe a punter with the bounces 

@orion said:

The FieldTurf has GOT to be better than that old artificial turf carpet over concrete that used to be the norm.  

It is. 

My high school was actually one of the first places in the nation to install it back in 1999. Definitely has more give than Astroturf, which was just a thin carpet on top of concrete. 

@vaportrail said:

Big toe is super important for acceleration. Cincinnati made a dumbass move switching to turf. Lionel Messi (GOAT soccer player) refuses to play on these artificial surfaces. I have no idea why the NFL allows them still. Lower extremity injury rate is way higher on artificial turf. 

I hate that Ohio State also has Field Turf, but from what I've heard/read they really, really struggle to keep grass alive at Ohio Stadium for some reason, hence the fake turf.

I don't think I'll ever get used to the Browns playing on turf once they move to Brookpark, assuming it actually happens. 

@browns149 said:

Turf toe is no joke.  Jack Lambert, Deion Sanders and Steve McNair all retired because of complications from it

Big toe is super important for acceleration. Cincinnati made a dumbass move switching to turf. Lionel Messi (GOAT soccer player) refuses to play on these artificial surfaces. I have no idea why the NFL allows them still. Lower extremity injury rate is way higher on artificial turf. 

@browns149 said:

Turf toe is no joke.  Jack Lambert, Deion Sanders and Steve McNair all retired because of complications from it

https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/17590-turf-toe

Makes sense that it would be a big problem, with possible torn ligaments in your big toe.

They need a better, more catastrophic-sounding name for it though. "Turf Toe" makes it sound like a stubbed toe or something lame. ?

@nickers said:

Joe is fragile... And has a shitbag personality.. He's supremely talented... But... There's Karma..

Karma explains all your health issues then. 

Much of this morning was spent with “Burrow watch ‘25” until the news came out, only to be followed up by what a good backup QB Browning is.