@mddawg said:

Here you go, I remember watching this play and saying Shedeur would have made that pass   

I would even think that throw to that side was easier for a lefty

@mddawg said:

Maybe but both required a completed throw in the flat. 

FIFY

@reality said:

Apples and bananas plays

Maybe but both required a throw in the flat. 

@mddawg said:

Here you go, I remember watching this play and saying Shedeur would have made that pass   

Apples and bananas plays

@reality said:

I do not recall any missed screen pass setup in the Jets game.

I am not trying to defend Gabriel.  I am simply pointing out that stats and stat comparisons in a vacuum (example: X number of passes to get to X number of passing yards), without context, can be very misleading 

Here you go, I remember watching this play and saying Shedeur would have made that pass   

https://discord.gg/YMn2BnAW

@reality said:

That said, Sanders showed ability and willingness to take deeper throws.  This is something Dillon has not shown.

And that helps open up the D by stretching them further than DG was doing.

@tiamat63 said:

Pooch punt.  Some QBs have practiced it.

@tiamat63 said:

You're right, Gabriel missed a throw on a screen... badly.  

But it's disingenuous to call an orbit motion to HB swing the same as a misdirection throwback off a bootleg. 

Two differently blocked and timed plays. 

I agree, The 2 plays were not equal… if DG didn’t miss, the end result would have been similar. 
They were alike as they were both short throws with blockers out in front.

DG one day might be calm and ready.

I just don’t think that day is now.

@reality said:

Punters 

Pooch punt.  Some QBs have practiced it. 

Last one I can vividly remember with my autistic level recall is Tate Forcier vs Notre Dame in 2009.  

@clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

Gabriel completely overthrew a WR screen against Jets which looked like it was gonna go for a huge play with blockers out in front.
Sure, he is lefty and had to turn around to make the pass. He also missed a short pass to Njoku against NE which was intercepted for almost 6. 
 

Sanders ball placement looked effortless on short and deep throws.

Massive difference in poise and mechanics.

You're right, Gabriel missed a throw on a screen... badly.  

But it's disingenuous to call an orbit motion to HB swing the same as a misdirection throwback off a bootleg. 

Two differently blocked and timed plays. 

@reality said:

I do not recall any missed screen pass setup in the Jets game.

I am not trying to defend Gabriel.  I am simply pointing out that stats and stat comparisons in a vacuum (example: X number of passes to get to X number of passing yards), without context, can be very misleading 

Gabriel completely overthrew a WR screen against Jets which looked like it was gonna go for a huge play with blockers out in front.
Sure, he is lefty and had to turn around to make the pass. He also missed a short pass to Njoku against NE which was intercepted for almost 6. 
 

Sanders ball placement looked effortless on short and deep throws.

Massive difference in poise and mechanics.

@orion said:

Who ever practices that  punt?  

Punters 

@secondwave said:

Agreed. But 30 more pass attempts to get 13 more yards is enough to say otherwise.

Regardless, I'm pumped to see how this offense looks this Sunday vs the 49ers.

That's the thing, it is not.  At least not when you factor in one playing being a 1ish yard pass which went 66.  Sanders stat line looks a whole lot different without Sampson taking that screen to thr house (and the great downfield blocking).  That said, Sanders showed ability and willingness to take deeper throws.  This is something Dillon has not shown. 

SF will be a good challenge and litmus test. 

@the-cysko-kid said:

It's super easy to root against a guy when the hype is absolutely out of control. I mean he did ok but Legendary? Legendary? 

Well his number was retired in Colorado. ?

@dutch-oven said:

I can’t say I’ve ever seen a NFL team punt inside the opposing team’s 30 before ?

Who ever practices that  punt?  

@ibleedbrown said:

Probably wanted to give Myles another chance to pad his sacks total

I don't think that Myles played anymore after that punt.  

@reality said:

I do not recall any missed screen pass setup in the Jets game.

I am not trying to defend Gabriel.  I am simply pointing out that stats and stat comparisons in a vacuum (example: X number of passes to get to X number of passing yards), without context, can be very misleading 

Agreed. But 30 more pass attempts to get 13 more yards is enough to say otherwise.

Regardless, I'm pumped to see how this offense looks this Sunday vs the 49ers.

@orion said:

Did yaz happen to notice Stef trying to minimize the use of his Special Teams at the end of the game?   We were right there in FG range...yet Stef punted.  I mean...the FG could've been blocked.  Even if the FG was good we'd have to kick off to them and tackle the guy with the ball.    

Score was 24-10, with about 1 minute left. LV is out of TOs.  No reason to even attempt a 51 yard FG.  Simply missing it gives LV the ball on their 41 yard line.  That is providing opportunity for a quick TD, an onside kick, and time to do it all. 

This has less to do with STs (punt team is still ST) and more to do with game and time management.  Provide the greatest distances with the least amount of game time for the opponent to score two TDs.  If LV is trailing by 7 or 10 the approach would be different.

@mddawg said:

Yeah because he missed his wide open receiver who would've taken it to the house in the Jets game I think. 

I do not recall any missed screen pass setup in the Jets game.

I am not trying to defend Gabriel.  I am simply pointing out that stats and stat comparisons in a vacuum (example: X number of passes to get to X number of passing yards), without context, can be very misleading 

@reality said:

To be fair, Gabriel didn't have a screen pass go 66 yards

Yeah because he missed his wide open receiver who would've taken it to the house in the Jets game I think. 

@dutch-oven said:

I can’t say I’ve ever seen a NFL team punt inside the opposing team’s 30 before ?

Probably wanted to give Myles another chance to pad his sacks total for the year. He’s 5 away from the single season record. 

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/myles-garrett-is-5-0-sacks-away-from-breaking-the-single-season-sack-record

@orion said:

Did yaz happen to notice Stef trying to minimize the use of his Special Teams at the end of the game?   We were right there in FG range...yet Stef punted.  I mean...the FG could've been blocked.  Even if the FG was good we'd have to kick off to them and tackle the guy with the ball.    

I can’t say I’ve ever seen a NFL team punt inside the opposing team’s 30 before ?