@flugel said:

Thanks for doing this again Dutch!  It's always a lot of fun to look back on "what was I thinking?"

Or even why wasn't I thinking?

@dutch-oven said:

That concludes another riveting Dutch's Browns Questions! Thanks to all who participated, see you again in September!

Thanks for doing this again Dutch!  It's always a lot of fun to look back on "what was I thinking?"

Bob806: Baltimore over LA Rams
syd: Green Bay over Buffalo
TexAg1969: Philadelphia over Buffalo
Marvin: Philadelphia over Kansas City
darkside5: Buffalo over Philadelphia
DBone: Detroit over Kansas City
Ibleedbrown: Green Bay over Kansas City
Flugel: Detroit over Denver
Horse Balls: Cleveland over Tamp Bay
nickers: Green Bay over Kansas City
AP1: Buffalo over Detroit
SDBacker: Buffalo over Detroit
Dutch Oven: Buffalo over San Francisco

Answer: The Seattle Seahawks won their second NFL Title by beating the New England Patriots 29-13 in Super Bowl 60.

Winner Winner Chicken Dinner: I can't remember a more wide open season for Super Bowl contenders. It's usually hard to pick the participants around Labor Day when I post these questions, I remember thinking at the end of the regular season that I would still struggle to come up with a good guess. There was not one mention of Seattle or New England in anyone's predictions.

And the 'Big Dummy Award' goes to... When you choose the Browns to win the Super Bowl, especially over a team that didn't make the playoffs, well this is an easy winner Horse Balls. 

@orion said:

Yeah, that doesn't say much for the intellect of this board does it...but in reality, it was just one blow-hard...to my recollection.  

Now....he's, at the very least, the best defensive player the Browns have ever had.  We've had a few of those type players.  Otto Graham, Jim Brown and Joe Thomas.  The best players the Browns have ever had at their positions (arguably the best ever).  And the thing that they have in common is that they never got traded away.  It would have been sacrilege.  (unless they were to hang on too long)  It's bad enough that we let Warfield get away.

We've had some really good defenses lately.  And until Nick Chubb's injury and the collapse of the OL, we were right up near the top of the league in rushing.  But what did that get us?  Not much.  Because you have to be able to pass the ball well in the NFL.  The defense, the running game...they're great to have...and you need them to win championships...but unless you can pass the ball well, you're just not going to amount to much.  And I'm quite certain that that's why Monken was brought in at the expense of Schwartz.  

Sorry to have taken the thread off rail...but I'm up to my knees in snow, I'm sick with a cold  (freakin' colds suck...at least for a day or two ya feel like total shit).  Time for a Musinex sp? and some sleep...I hope.  

Good stuff!  And I'm not just talking about the Mucinex...

@dutch-oven said:

Some of the best and brightest minds on this board in the past have referred Myles Garrett as an "overrated Zumba instructor"

Yeah, that doesn't say much for the intellect of this board does it...but in reality, it was just one blow-hard...to my recollection.  

Now....he's, at the very least, the best defensive player the Browns have ever had.  We've had a few of those type players.  Otto Graham, Jim Brown and Joe Thomas.  The best players the Browns have ever had at their positions (arguably the best ever).  And the thing that they have in common is that they never got traded away.  It would have been sacrilege.  (unless they were to hang on too long)  It's bad enough that we let Warfield get away.

We've had some really good defenses lately.  And until Nick Chubb's injury and the collapse of the OL, we were right up near the top of the league in rushing.  But what did that get us?  Not much.  Because you have to be able to pass the ball well in the NFL.  The defense, the running game...they're great to have...and you need them to win championships...but unless you can pass the ball well, you're just not going to amount to much.  And I'm quite certain that that's why Monken was brought in at the expense of Schwartz.  

Sorry to have taken the thread off rail...but I'm up to my knees in snow, I'm sick with a cold  (freakin' colds suck...at least for a day or two ya feel like total shit).  Time for a Musinex sp? and some sleep...I hope.  

@dutch-oven said:

And the 'Big Dummy Award' goes to... I'm actually puzzled by Ibleedbrown's prediction of 8 sacks. We need an explanation, sir. 

I’m really bombing here, lol. We’ve seen spells where Myles is a little banged up and his production drops. I recall the last half of 2 seasons ago that was the case. 

@texasag1969 said:

Next year I'm hoping you will ask how many TDs K.C. Concepcion returns for punts and kickoffs combined. We need this open field do everything slot player really bad.??

That wouldn't suck at all Aggies...

@dutch-oven said:

How many sacks does Myles Garrett have in 2025?

Bob806: 17
syd: 19
TexAg1969: 21
Marvin: 11
darkside5: 18
DBone: 13
Ibleedbrown: 8
Flugel: 14
HorseBalls: 20
nickers: 13
AP1: 16
SDBacker: 18
Dutch Oven: 16

Answer: The NFL Defensive Player of the Year (again) finished the season with 23 sacks, a new NFL season record. 

Winner Winner Chicken Dinner: Not surprisingly, TexAg1969 was the most bullish on the former Aggie, and wins this question. 

Next year I'm hoping you will ask how many TDs K.C. Concepcion returns for punts and kickoffs combined. We need this open field do everything slot player really bad.??

@dutch-oven said:

17. Browns record vs AFC North in 2025?

And the 'Big Dummy Award' goes to... Could you imagine a season where Horse Balls/Zombo would be right? A season where the Browns swept the six games? We'd all have to consult a physician after four hours, fo sho. 

I've imagined it on multiple occasions; and every damn time it ended abruptly by the sound of annoying alarm clock I wanted to give a Kung-Flug kick to...

Bob806: 3-3
syd: 2-4
TexAg1969: 3-3
Marvin: 2-4
darkside5: 4-2
DBone: 2-4
Ibleedbrown: 4-2
Flugel: 2-4
HorseBalls: 6-0
nickers: 3-3
AP1: 3-3
SDBacker: 2-4
Dutch Oven: 1-5

Answer: The Browns went 2-4 vs the AFC North, with wins in their last two games of the season vs Pittsburgh and Cincinnati.

Winner Winner Chicken Dinner: Most of us predicted a 3-3 or worse season vs the AFC North, and that came true. In the six seasons under Kevin Stefanski, the Browns went 17-20 vs their division rivals. They went 4-8 vs Baltimore, 7-5 vs Cincinnati and 6-7 vs Pittsburgh (including the 2020 playoff game). Not great, but compared to what the Browns have done vs the Ravens, Bengals and Steelers before, not too shabby either. syd, Marvin, DBone, Flugel and SDBacker share this win.

And the 'Big Dummy Award' goes to... Could you imagine a season where Horse Balls/Zombo would be right? A season where the Browns swept the six games? We'd all have to consult a physician after four hours, fo sho. 

Bob806: 17
syd: 19
TexAg1969: 21
Marvin: 11
darkside5: 18
DBone: 13
Ibleedbrown: 8
Flugel: 14
HorseBalls: 20
nickers: 13
AP1: 16
SDBacker: 18
Dutch Oven: 16

Answer: The NFL Defensive Player of the Year (again) finished the season with 23 sacks, a new NFL season record. 

Winner Winner Chicken Dinner: Some of the best and brightest minds on this board in the past have referred Myles Garrett as an "overrated Zumba instructor" and some other really intelligent, well-thought out takes that definitely were not pathetic attempts to rage-bait. Well, he's sitting on 125.5 career sacks as of today, and is a first ballot Hall of Famer in waiting. He's also the greatest defensive player the Browns have ever had. Most of the predictions were calling for a big year for Myles, yet he lapped them all. Not surprisingly, TexAg1969 was the most bullish on the former Aggie, and wins this question. 

And the 'Big Dummy Award' goes to... I'm actually puzzled by Ibleedbrown's prediction of 8 sacks. We need an explanation, sir. 

Bob806: Jeudy, 68
syd: Njoku, 51
TexAg1969: Jeudy,98
Marvin: Jeudy, 68
darkside5: Jeudy, 69
DBone: Njoku, 69
Ibleedbrown: Njoku, 83
Flugel: Njoku, 60
HorseBalls: Njoku, 46
nickers: Njoku, 55
AP1: Jeudy, 75
SDBacker: Njoku, 64
Dutch Oven: Njoku, 58

Answer: Jerry Jeudy finished second in receptions for the Browns with 50. 

Winner Winner Chicken Dinner: The overall reception numbers in the leaderboard kind of resembles a mediocre passing offense from the 80s. Bob806 and Marvin edged out darkside5 for the sweet taste of victory. 

And the 'Big Dummy Award' goes to... It was a solid prediction, but Njoku's injury-filled season kind of torpedoed Ibleedbrown's guess, with him being 57 receptions too high. 

Bob806: Njoku, 74
syd: Jeudy, 64
TexAg1969: Njoku, 108
Marvin: Njoku, 78
darkside5: Njoku, 77
DBone: Jeudy, 77
Ibleedbrown: Thrash, 88
Flugel: Jeudy, 85
HorseBalls: Jeudy, 80
nickers: Jeudy, 90
AP1: Njoku, 80
SDBacker: Jeudy, 71
Dutch Oven: Jeudy, 85

Answer: Rookie tight end Harold Fannin, from Canton McKinley and Bowling Green, lead the Browns in receptions with 72. 

Winner Winner Chicken Dinner: Fannin won this question convincingly, easily lapping the field. Other notables were Jeudy with 50 receptions, Njoku and Sampson with 33, and Judkins and Ford tied with 26. Jeudy and Njoku were popular predictions, but Jeudy played like the first rounder that Denver couldn't wait to unload in 2025, and Njoku in possibly his last season with the Browns missed time with injuries. No one predicted a Harold Fannin win. 

And the 'Big Dummy Award' goes to... Our boy Ibleedbrown was taking a mighty swing on the last few questions, I appreciate the outside the box thinking, but Thrash had all of 10 receptions in 2025. 

@bob806 said:

@syd Honorable Mention with 813 yards?️

Patriots 19 

SeaHags 14 

Good yardage prediction, waaaaay off for Ford though. 

@dutch-oven said:

13. Who leads the Browns in rushing yards? How many yards?

Bob806: Judkins, 1043
syd: Ford, 813
TexAg1969: Sampson, 888
Marvin: Sampson, 688
darkside5: Ford, 1012
DBone: Sampson, 707
Ibleedbrown: Strong, 1042
Flugel: Judkins, 1100
HorseBalls: Sampson, 860
nickers: Sampson, 925
AP1: Judkins, 1003
SDBacker: Judkins, 771
Dutch Oven: Judkins, 750

Answer: Quinshon Judkins lead the Browns in rushing yards in 2025 with 827.

Winner Winner Chicken Dinner: Judkins easily lapped the field, with Dylan Sampson a distant second with 175 yards. It was tough sledding for all rushers behind the Browns OLine, Judkins only averaged 3.6 yards a carry. He probably would have been everyone's favorite for this question but his off the field issue that happened during training camp caused doubt on his availability. SDBacker wins with the closest prediction. 

And the 'Big Dummy Award' goes to... With Judkins easily winning this question, there's no shortage of people who could win this. Ibleedbrown wins this dubious award with this selection of Pierre Strong, who gained exactly 1042 yards less for the Browns than his prediction.

@syd Honorable Mention with 813 yards?️

Patriots 19 

SeaHags 14 

Bob806: Judkins, 1043
syd: Ford, 813
TexAg1969: Sampson, 888
Marvin: Sampson, 688
darkside5: Ford, 1012
DBone: Sampson, 707
Ibleedbrown: Strong, 1042
Flugel: Judkins, 1100
HorseBalls: Sampson, 860
nickers: Sampson, 925
AP1: Judkins, 1003
SDBacker: Judkins, 771
Dutch Oven: Judkins, 750

Answer: Quinshon Judkins lead the Browns in rushing yards in 2025 with 827.

Winner Winner Chicken Dinner: Judkins easily lapped the field, with Dylan Sampson a distant second with 175 yards. It was tough sledding for all rushers behind the Browns OLine, Judkins only averaged 3.6 yards a carry. He probably would have been everyone's favorite for this question but his off the field issue that happened during training camp caused doubt on his availability. SDBacker wins with the closest prediction. 

And the 'Big Dummy Award' goes to... With Judkins easily winning this question, there's no shortage of people who could win this. Ibleedbrown wins this dubious award with this selection of Pierre Strong, who gained exactly 1042 yards less for the Browns than his prediction.

@dutch-oven said:

11. How many yards, touchdowns and interceptions does Dillon Gabriel throw for?
Flugel: 1980, 17, 11

Answer: Dillon Gabriel started six games for the Browns in 2025, throwing for 937 yards with 7 touchdowns and 2 interceptions.

And the 'Big Dummy Award' goes to... On the high side was Flugel, on the low side was HorseBalls and nickers. 

I must have been.  I wonder what the Warden put in the brownies.  Man, they were delicious! ?

@dutch-oven said:

Oh wow, I totally missed your answer so methinks there needs to be a correction ?

OH NO YOU DIT'NT!!! ?

@flugel said:

To all my brothers from other mothers & sisters from different misters - PHEW!!!!!!!!!!

Oh wow, I totally missed your answer so methinks there needs to be a correction ?

@dutch-oven said:

11. How many yards, touchdowns and interceptions does Dillon Gabriel throw for?

Bob806: 862, 7, 4
syd: 812, 4, 4
TexAg1969: 600, 5, 4
Marvin: 700, 5, 4
darkside5: 425, ?, 3
DBone: 1386, 8, 7
Ibleedbrown: 622, 4, 2
Flugel: 1980, 17, 11
HorseBalls: 0
nickers: 0
AP1: 450, 3, 2
SDBacker: 1851, 11, 4
Dutch Oven: 1250, 7, 5

Answer: Dillon Gabriel started six games for the Browns in 2025, throwing for 937 yards with 7 touchdowns and 2 interceptions.

Winner Winner Chicken Dinner: On a positive note, you gotta like a backup QB for can throw for 3.5 touchdowns for every interceptions. Still, the offense was pretty stagnant under Dillon, obviously not all of his fault for reasons already stated with Flacco's question. Like Flacco, Gabriel dinked and dunked his way to a 5.1 yards per attempt. He didn't come to a ready-made offense, but he confirmed his low ceiling status in his playing time. Bob806 wins. 

And the 'Big Dummy Award' goes to... On the high side was SDBacker, on the low side was HorseBalls and nickers. 

To all my brothers from other mothers & sisters from different misters - PHEW!!!!!!!!!!

Bob806: 489, 4, 1
syd: 710, 2, 4
TexAg1969: 290, 2, 0
Marvin: 390, 2, 1
darkside5: 0
DBone: 396, 2, 3
Ibleedbrown: 18, 0, 0
Flugel: 225, 2, 2
Horse Balls: 0
nickers: 0
AP1: 300, 3, 2
SDBacker: 191, 1, 2
Dutch Oven: 500, 3, 5

Answer: Shadeur Sanders started seven games for the Browns in 2025, throwing for 1400 yards with 7 touchdowns and 10 interceptions. 

Winner Winner Chicken Dinner: Sanders was the 4th string QB for most of training camp and ended up starting the most games as QB. It was a mixed bag of course, and he played loose with the ball in comparison to Gabriel, but his yards per attempt were a yard and half more than Flacco and Gabriel. Is he a legit starting QB in the future? A guy the Browns can build around for the future? I honestly don't know, but I saw enough to give him a chance. He played much more than any of us expected, but I'll give Syd the win on this question.

And the 'Big Dummy Award' goes to... No one obviously predicted major things for Sanders, but darkside5, Horse Balls and nickers predicted nothing. 

Bob806: 862, 7, 4
syd: 812, 4, 4
TexAg1969: 600, 5, 4
Marvin: 700, 5, 4
darkside5: 425, ?, 3
DBone: 1386, 8, 7
Ibleedbrown: 622, 4, 2
Flugel: 1980, 17, 11
HorseBalls: 0
nickers: 0
AP1: 450, 3, 2
SDBacker: 1851, 11, 4
Dutch Oven: 1250, 7, 5

Answer: Dillon Gabriel started six games for the Browns in 2025, throwing for 937 yards with 7 touchdowns and 2 interceptions.

Winner Winner Chicken Dinner: On a positive note, you gotta like a backup QB for can throw for 3.5 touchdowns for every interceptions. Still, the offense was pretty stagnant under Dillon, obviously not all of his fault for reasons already stated with Flacco's question. Like Flacco, Gabriel dinked and dunked his way to a 5.1 yards per attempt. He didn't come to a ready-made offense, but he confirmed his low ceiling status in his playing time. Bob806 wins. 

And the 'Big Dummy Award' goes to... On the high side was Flugel, on the low side was HorseBalls and nickers.