@dutch-oven said:

Wait... the same mental giant who thought Roethlisberger played for the U of Miami Hurricanes also thought Kosar played for Miami U Redhawks? ?

While it wouldn't shock me that "Mr. Bigly" thought this, even this seems too much. ?

?Whoever did say it will take great comfort knowing how fast Diet Pepsi just travelled north to fly south out of my nostrils.  I gave up busting people's balls in here for lent; so keeping with the Fox News theme I'm gonna be safe and say it's possible that could be plural. ?

@flugel said:

They've done the local stuff with Brady Quinn and former Akron Zip Charlie Frye.  It worked with Bernie Kosar; and even more adorable is there is an itsy-bitsy-teeny-tiny # of guys certain he played his college football at Miami of Ohio... Apparently Fox News can do amazing things...

Wait... the same mental giant who thought Roethlisberger played for the U of Miami Hurricanes also thought Kosar played for Miami U Redhawks? ?

While it wouldn't shock me that "Mr. Bigly" thought this, even this seems too much. ?

Then again, the guy Stan thought of as a "cry baby pussy" did post a link to a NHL Florida Panthers story to show us how dysfunctional the NFL Carolina Panthers were to defend his poor lil' Baker. 

@dutch-oven said:

The Browns could take a local kid who is big and has tons of experience even later in Drew Allar. 

They've done the local stuff with Brady Quinn and former Akron Zip Charlie Frye.  It worked with Bernie Kosar; and even more adorable is there is an itsy-bitsy-teeny-tiny # of guys certain he played his college football at Miami of Ohio... Apparently Fox News can do amazing things...

Not sure his agent is going to want him to come to Cleveland and compete with his other client. 

Not sure the Browns are going to want to get into a contract negotiation with an agent who already bent them over and rammed them bone dry while they are still paying for his last client who was/is a colossal failure. 

@ibleedbrown said:

Beck seems like a guy worth taking a chance on if he slides to the 3rd or beyond round. His stats last season were comparable to his 2023 stats, so it seems he bounced back from his 2024 performance. 

He’s 6’4” and has gobs of experience. I figure the Browns will draft a QB somewhere. 

The Browns could take a local kid who is big and has tons of experience even later in Drew Allar. 

He’s 6’4” and has gobs of experience. I figure the Browns will draft a QB somewhere. 

@dutch-oven said:

And I don't want another "Lets give four mediocre guys reps all training camp" scenario. 

But that's what were gonna get for the OL this year like it or not, except more like 10 instead of 4.

If they add one, it better be a guy who can be a legitimate starter. I don't see that in Beck. 

And I don't want another "Lets give four mediocre guys reps all training camp" scenario. 

@orion said:

It's already been quite fascinating.  And now we're at the combine and Carson Beck has already met with the Browns.  Remember a couple of years ago when Beck was a hot topic?  And then as the college season went on his stock fell and it was felt that he should return to school for another season.  Turned out his stock didn't rise.  He'd be a project.

This might factor in or it might not:

1 final thought from me:

FWIW, Beck led Miami to the National Championship Game after scoring the game winning TD against Ole Miss.  I will admit - I didn't think he was capable of this due his bipolar/hot and cold streaks; but I'll at least give him credit for the will to persevere and accomplishing it to a certain extent. I DO NOT want us using our 1st or 2nd round picks on him though and not even our 3rd given our OL situation.  IMO, he's a 4th round pick We could just trade our step stool QB (but he's a GREAT kid though) for the Rams' step stool QB Stetson Bennett (since he should already be familiar with Monken's offense and winning back to back Nattys in it).

@dutch-oven said:

Like I've said before, this is going to be a fascinating off-season.

It's already been quite fascinating.  And now we're at the combine and Carson Beck has already met with the Browns.  Remember a couple of years ago when Beck was a hot topic?  And then as the college season went on his stock fell and it was felt that he should return to school for another season.  Turned out his stock didn't rise.  He'd be a project.

@dutch-oven said:

Is he still over on the Poliboard messin' with the best and brightest? ?

You must be one miserable person..

@orion said:

New HC's with a high draft pick typically want to draft 'their' new QB.  I view Monken as a guy that operates in today's reality but is also Old School.  He knows that he's got Watson, Sanders & Gabriel in house already.  He knows his receivers and OL will require FA & Draft assets.  So where is this new QB coming from?   He doesn't need any more projects...unless Berry is willing to part with the midget they drafted last year.  

If they're going to bring in the Packer guy, then you're bringing him in as 'the answer'...and not another project.  That would change the dynamic of the QB room.

I say that we're under water in the QB room for another year.  We can't get the #1 draft pick.  So play the year out Watson and his contract, Sanders, and Gabriel (or Gabriel's replacement).  If the QB's need 'new', you can do it next year.    But that's just me!

I think that probably is what is going to happen, but if it comes down to money we all know Haslam will do whatever is needed if he really wants a player.

Like I've said before, this is going to be a fascinating off-season. 

@nickers said:

No that's Woody's dept.

Is he still over on the Poliboard messin' with the best and brightest? ?

If they're going to bring in the Packer guy, then you're bringing him in as 'the answer'...and not another project.  That would change the dynamic of the QB room.

I say that we're under water in the QB room for another year.  We can't get the #1 draft pick.  So play the year out Watson and his contract, Sanders, and Gabriel (or Gabriel's replacement).  If the QB's need 'new', you can do it next year.    But that's just me!

@dutch-oven said:

You are one surly little troll. 

No that's Woody's dept.

@nickers said:

None.. Baker is considered pint sized too as is Dillon Gabriel.. so was Tyrod Taylor... See a trend here?.. I want someone who can see over the goddamn line and make the reads down field without running all over the goddamn place. I don't want Tua or Kylar Murray either.... Take your race baiting elsewhere... Any other stupid questions you have to ask Jr?

For the record as I have stated many times.. I was a Warren Moon and Steve McNair fan.. Until Moon started smacking his ol'lady around.

You are one surly little troll. 

@bob806 said:

Agree. I think he's on borrowed time, the injuries are accumulating. 

Regarding Malik Willis, he really improved from his days in Tennessee, but the Browns can't pay top dollar here. Shedeur is on a rookie deal, let's see what he can do under Monken and hopefully a better offensive line. 

They probably would have to pay him about $30 mill a year. That seems to be the speculation. That’s definitely more than Shadeur makes, but nowhere near what the top QBs make.

It seems like a longshot for the Browns, but hopefully they got something up their sleeve for QB. I don’t like the idea of too many eggs in Sanders’ basket.

@lodilobo said:

Please!...NO!

Agree. I think he's on borrowed time, the injuries are accumulating. 

Regarding Malik Willis, he really improved from his days in Tennessee, but the Browns can't pay top dollar here. Shedeur is on a rookie deal, let's see what he can do under Monken and hopefully a better offensive line. 

@syd said:

I hear Monken really likes Lamar Jackson and that Baltimore is tired of his bullshit, you know just saying

Please!...NO!