Nonetheless he impressed me. 2-3 round pick IMO.

Why do people stay in a cult? Because everyone they know is also in the cult. If there's no differing opinions in your realm, there will be no moving forward.

Sure, OleMiss won a playoff game last season.. So did Oregon, and you can't find anyone crowing about how good the b10 is because of that. Might want to check who that opponent was -- for both of them.

Lane Kiffin just got up on stage and said he wants a 9-3 team to get in over an 11-1 team. My guy, Sark lost to Florida last year [after their coach had already been fired] and barely beat Miss St.. because Texas was not even a good team, let alone a playoff team. The teams above Texas were BYU and Notre Dame for just last year's playoff.. and both would [and SHOULD] have been in before Texas. It wasn't the Ohio State loss that kept Texas out -- it was the Florida loss. And don't forget that San Jose State, UTEP, and Sam Houston were Texas' games after Ohio State.. they already had 3 cupcakes, and now they can't handle life without a 4th? Florida's only wins last season were Long Island University, Florida State, MissSt, and the proposed playoff team Texas. Don't forget that also Texas needed overtime for MissSt.. that's the equivalent of OSU going to overtime against Rutgers.

The floors of the b10 and the SEC are the same... and yet, the parity of both the middle and the ceiling in the b10 is much greater. Only 6 teams have won the SEC in 50 years.. in the b10, that's actually 10. Even Northwestern and Purdue have had their seasons.. Vandy has no shot. Auburn is below Illinois, and Illinois has no shot. Even that one Auburn season had a total of 2 NFL players on the roster - one on each side of the ball - Cam Newton and someone you'll only get looking up Ourlads. Speaking of Illinois, they won the big10 in 2001, have 5 natty's, and of course they beat Tennessee last season.

@gator said:

I'm a huge SK fan and the 90s version of The Stand is pretty good for being a 2 night TV movie. I recently re-read the book and the graphic novels and I was about to watch the 90s version again, when I saw they did a new mini-series in 2020. I made it 30 minutes into the first episode and shut it off lol. I do not recommend it.

I watched that one too. It is remarkably meh. I think the most notable thing is the second to last episode ends in the same spot as the 90s version, but then it goes an episode longer. I’m not sure that was a good thing.

@ibleedbrown said:

That’s pretty cool. The old made for tv version of The Stand in the 90s is a personal favorite. It stars Gary Sinise.

I'm a huge SK fan and the 90s version of The Stand is pretty good for being a 2 night TV movie. I recently re-read the book and the graphic novels and I was about to watch the 90s version again, when I saw they did a new mini-series in 2020. I made it 30 minutes into the first episode and shut it off lol. I do not recommend it.

@ibleedbrown said:

That’s pretty cool. The old made for tv version of The Stand in the 90s is a personal favorite. It stars Gary Sinise.

Yeah, Jackman has some pipes.

I'm gonna have to check that out...

@nickers said:

I just can't imagine Hugh Jackman singing... But a lot of Actors have outside talents... Gary Sinise for example plays bass and has the Lt Dan band..

That’s pretty cool. The old made for tv version of The Stand in the 90s is a personal favorite. It stars Gary Sinise.

Yeah, Jackman has some pipes.

@ibleedbrown said:

The Greatest Showman is fantastic as well if you haven’t seen that. And yes, Jackman can really sing.

I just can't imagine Hugh Jackman singing... But a lot of Actors have outside talents... Gary Sinise for example plays bass and has the Lt Dan band..

@mld-woody said:

Oh, I watched 2012 Les Miserables with my girlfriend this weekend and actually really enjoyed it. Definitely recommend. Wolverine can sing

The Greatest Showman is fantastic as well if you haven’t seen that. And yes, Jackman can really sing.

@dutch-oven said:

Boston looks like the front runner so far...

@mld-woody said:

Oh, I watched 2012 Les Miserables with my girlfriend this weekend and actually really enjoyed it. Definitely recommend. Wolverine can sing

FWIW, Mason Graham is a GREAT kid now that he lives in Ohio during football seasons. I appreciate the movie tip though Woody. Check out the movie "Overcomer" - you can stream it on Tubi and it's available on other streaming providers. Once it gets going, it never stops getting better and going places you didn't see coming.

@flugel said:

Even though Missed Again fans were re-watching Legally Blonde & Ken and Barbie movies with @mld-woody during the last 2 rounds of CFP - the higher ups in Ann Arbor greased the right fannies & paid the right dirt-bags 3 years ago for me to say the Big 10 Won the last 3 National Championships.

All that said, understanding how easily SEC schools like Alabama, LSU, Georgia, Florida, etc seemed to have the highest volume of top recruits every year - did Nick Saban just decide he was going to be unbeatable as soon as he left Michigan State or did he have a little access to double-secret player salaries going on when he arrived at LSU and later on again at Alabama? When we think about it, the end of Clemson's ability to compete with the elite began when Kirby Smart landed at GA. Impact? All of the top high school players in GA stopped leaving their home state to go play at competitive places like Clemson. Consequently, Swinney's team/program took it on the chin. It sure looked like Smart brought what he learned about taking a program to a higher level from Saban to GA. Reality is as soon as other conferences were allowed to pay players the chants of "S-E-C, S-E-C, S-E-C" aren't heard nearly as frequently after someone from the midwest intercepted that southern little "I've got a secret."

Let's slap a positive spin on this stuff; because @mld-woody and his classmates/buddies up in Ann Arbor are looking to provide emotional support and constructive alternatives to disappointed college football fans in lieu of watching the College Football Playoffs. I bet they make adorable little angels in the snow that time of year so stay tuned...

@flugel said:

Even though Missed Again fans were re-watching Legally Blonde & Ken and Barbie movies with @mld-woody during the last 2 rounds of CFP - the higher ups in Ann Arbor greased the right fannies & paid the right dirt-bags 3 years ago for me to say the Big 10 Won the last 3 National Championships.

All that said, understanding how easily SEC schools like Alabama, LSU, Georgia, Florida, etc seemed to have the highest volume of top recruits every year - did Nick Saban just decide he was going to be unbeatable as soon as he left Michigan State or did he have a little access to double-secret player salaries going on when he arrived at LSU and later on again at Alabama? When we think about it, the end of Clemson's ability to compete with the elite began when Kirby Smart landed at GA. Impact? All of the top high school players in GA stopped leaving their home state to go play at competitive places like Clemson. Consequently, Swinney's team/program took it on the chin. It sure looked like Smart brought what he learned about taking a program to a higher level from Saban to GA. Reality is as soon as other conferences were allowed to pay players the chants of "S-E-C, S-E-C, S-E-C" aren't heard nearly as frequently after someone from the midwest intercepted that southern little "I've got a secret."

Let's slap a positive spin on this stuff; because @mld-woody and his classmates/buddies up in Ann Arbor are looking to provide emotional support and constructive alternatives to disappointed college football fans in lieu of watching the College Football Playoffs. I bet they make adorable little angels in the snow that time of year so stay tuned...

Do... Do you need someone to talk to? Is everything alright at home?

Oh, I watched 2012 Les Miserables with my girlfriend this weekend and actually really enjoyed it. Definitely recommend. Wolverine can sing

@canton-dawg said:

With all that first round talent it makes you wonder why the SEC can’t make it to the championship game. ?

Even though Missed Again fans were re-watching Legally Blonde & Ken and Barbie movies with @mld-woody during the last 2 rounds of CFP - the higher ups in Ann Arbor greased the right fannies & paid the right dirt-bags 3 years ago for me to say the Big 10 Won the last 3 National Championships.

All that said, understanding how easily SEC schools like Alabama, LSU, Georgia, Florida, etc seemed to have the highest volume of top recruits every year - did Nick Saban just decide he was going to be unbeatable as soon as he left Michigan State or did he have a little access to double-secret player salaries going on when he arrived at LSU and later on again at Alabama? When we think about it, the end of Clemson's ability to compete with the elite began when Kirby Smart landed at GA. Impact? All of the top high school players in GA stopped leaving their home state to go play at competitive places like Clemson. Consequently, Swinney's team/program took it on the chin. It sure looked like Smart brought what he learned about taking a program to a higher level from Saban to GA. Reality is as soon as other conferences were allowed to pay players the chants of "S-E-C, S-E-C, S-E-C" aren't heard nearly as frequently after someone from the midwest intercepted that southern little "I've got a secret."

Let's slap a positive spin on this stuff; because @mld-woody and his classmates/buddies up in Ann Arbor are looking to provide emotional support and constructive alternatives to disappointed college football fans in lieu of watching the College Football Playoffs. I bet they make adorable little angels in the snow that time of year so stay tuned...

@tiamat63 said:

Already saw that with the Vols coming to Columbus.

That’s what I was thinking when I made the post.

@canton-dawg said:

I would love this to happen.

Can you imagine getting an SEC team out of their own backyard for the playoffs?

Especially like Columbus or Ann Arbor in December or January?

Already saw that with the Vols coming to Columbus.

@tiamat63 said:

- Top 4 seeds host. 

I would love this to happen.

Can you imagine getting an SEC team out of their own backyard for the playoffs?

Especially like Columbus or Ann Arbor in December or January?

@tiamat63 said:

 These institutions also makes sense in terms of their endowment & academic prestige.    Notre Dame should be Big 10.  Penn State I'm on the fence about.  But it would make for a strong conference if the old Big East had Penn State & Miami in it. 

Yes INDEED!  

I just watched a little of the Lacrosse Semi-Finals game between Syracuse & Notre Dame.  Even though SU got rathoused - they pulled the score within 9-7 until SU surrendered about 4 or 5 goals against ND's awesome power play.  SU has won some Nattys in Lax; but I can't help but wondering what it would have been like to watch Jim Brown playing Lax at Syracuse.  He never lost 1 face-off.  Here's a little info on how he did. 

@dutch-oven said:

Yes. Conferences need to be capped at 12 max. 

Get USC, Oregon, etc back into the PAC. Get Oklahoma, Texas, Texas A&M, etc into a new Southwest Conference. 

If Notre Dame would ever join the Big Ten, I'd hope for Penn State to leave and form a new Eastern conference with teams like West Virginia, Pitt, Syracuse, Boston College, Maryland, Virginia Tech, Virginia, etc. 

Get the geographical rivalries back. 

 These institutions also makes sense in terms of their endowment & academic prestige.    Notre Dame should be Big 10.  Penn State I'm on the fence about.  But it would make for a strong conference if the old Big East had Penn State & Miami in it. 

@tiamat63 said:

- Reform the old conferences. 

Yes. Conferences need to be capped at 12 max. 

Get USC, Oregon, etc back into the PAC. Get Oklahoma, Texas, Texas A&M, etc into a new Southwest Conference. 

If Notre Dame would ever join the Big Ten, I'd hope for Penn State to leave and form a new Eastern conference with teams like West Virginia, Pitt, Syracuse, Boston College, Maryland, Virginia Tech, Virginia, etc. 

Get the geographical rivalries back. 

@flugel said:

Texas A&M doesn't think they can spell SECCESS without the SEC; and we wonder why they need a 12th man?  

That said Texas Tech and their killer good defense didn't need the SEC...  A&M, Texas, Oklahoma, Nebraska, Mizzou, Colorado and others should have gone back to the way it was now that the NIL for all could restore some of those old rivalries & traditions.

- Reform the old conferences. 

- Bring back the traditional rivalries. 

- Bring back the BCS formula to help with pre-season rankings and minimize human bias. 

- Cut out conference title games 

- Round Robin, 9 conference games 

- 2 OOC 

- Automatic playoff bid to conference champion. Top 4 seeds host. 

- 1 at large. 

 Gives us the best of the BCS without watering down the product with an expanded playoffs;  further invalidating, what used to be, the best regular season in sports.  

@dutch-oven said:

Because I don’t think there has been a team more hyped up that never delivers shit like his favorite team. Guess he feels the need to pimp the conference to do the work his team never can do.

Texas A&M doesn't think they can spell SECCESS without the SEC; and we wonder why they need a 12th man?  

That said Texas Tech and their killer good defense didn't need the SEC...  A&M, Texas, Oklahoma, Nebraska, Mizzou, Colorado and others should have gone back to the way it was now that the NIL for all could restore some of those old rivalries & traditions.

@canton-dawg said:

That’s what the SEC homers do.

Because I don’t think there has been a team more hyped up that never delivers shit like his favorite team. Guess he feels the need to pimp the conference to do the work his team never can do.

@texasag1969 said:

He was cherry picking. Michigan lost to SEC 6th overall Texas by 14 and to 7th overall Oklahoma by 11. Wisconsin lost to 4th in the SEC Texas by 24. And anyone who believes that no major team in the Big 10 was ever "cheating" in recruiting is either lying or very naive. The $100 handshake goes way back in history, but the amount changed over time. Now it's all legal. And Hayden Fry took his cheating ways (Eric Dickerson and others) from SMU to Iowa decades ago.

I love you defending the SEC with every dying breath. Texas A&M isn’t even a real SEC team, they’ve been in that league for a small fraction of your life. 

@tiamat63 said:

Now we see the coaching, talent & money has leveled out and that leveling has provided a clarity;  We see which conference benefitted disproportionately from their behaviors in comparison to others. 

And we shall see if that holds up over about a 10 year period. Then and only then can conclusions be made. Correlation does not equal cause and effect. I'll do my best to stick around long enough.? 

And the references he was making were from games this past season. That was cherry picking. I just clarified it a little.