@texasag1969 said:

Tanking season doesn't start for two weeks.?

It started before training camp

@dutch-oven said:

The current stadium not only hasn't seen a Browns playoff victory, it hasn't seen a Browns playoff game.

2002 the Browns went to Pittsburgh and lost.

2020 the Browns went to Pittsburgh and won, then went to Kansas City and lost.

2023 the Browns went to Houston and lost.

That's it.

The Browns could go to Shit and still find a way to come out a loser.?

The reports I've seen said that Watson looked horrid- and got booed pretty badly. From that, and how crappy he played against the Bears- the QB decision is pretty obvious. Start Sanders. Watson is washed up, great- a $230 million dollar mistake. May as well cut him and be done with it. Browns can probably pick up a scrap heap backup QB when other teams start doing their cuts- they couldn't do any worse. Or work a trade with another team for a backup that would only involve a low draft pick.

@canton-dawg said:

CD, I was volleying between LMAO & feeling REALLY bummed out remembering the Cleveland Browns had a 10-6 record in Joe Thomas' rookie season that wasn't good enough to make the playoffs. That was a very good OL especially when the old feller playing Center Hank Fraley was still able to pull around end vey easily. Today, Fraley is the Run Game Coodinator & O-Line Coach for the Detroit Lions. Moving Kevin Shaffer from LT to RT made him far more efficient in 2007. In ATL he was a LT but his QB Michael Vick was Left handed passer meaning he wasn't functioning as the blind side pass protector there - so when Cleveland 1st used him as a blind side pass protector before the 2007 season Shaffer struggled.

Here's some cut and pastes

Not to forget the big sure-handed 6'5" WR Joe Jurevicious contributing the following (mostly on 3rd downs): 50 receptions, 614 receiving yards @12.3 yards per catch and 3 TDs.

losers again

If he doesn't, I'm already writing Monken off. On to the next head coach that virtually no other NFL team has any interest in hiring in said position, like every fucking head coach Jimmy Haslam has hired since he bought the team. Because no head coach candidate with options would ever consider this shit show.

Monken has a press conference today at 3.

@dutch-oven said:

The current stadium not only hasn't seen a Browns playoff victory, it hasn't seen a Browns playoff game.

2002 the Browns went to Pittsburgh and lost.

2020 the Browns went to Pittsburgh and won, then went to Kansas City and lost.

2023 the Browns went to Houston and lost.

That's it.

Now THAT is adding salt to a wound - why you gotta get hurtful man? ? The Browns are projecting a 0 for 30 seasons at hosting a playoff game in the current stadium unless something miraculous happens before they start playing in the new stadium...

@tiamat63 said:

I'm not in the building, so I don't call the shots. That said, between...

• Watson's commentary

• His completely inability to elevate the 2nd & 3rd team

I don't believe you can start him week 1. I feel Shedeur will get the 1st reps with the 1's on Saturday. Then Watson might get SOME reps. This is all provided Shedeur doesn't fall apart during this full week of practice. But from this perch, Sanders is your QB1 right now (barring a minor miracle)

I sincerely hope so.

I have zero interest in watching Watson play for this team ever again.

@dutch-oven said:

The idea that Watson is going to start

I'm not in the building, so I don't call the shots. That said, between...

• Watson's commentary

• His completely inability to elevate the 2nd & 3rd team

I don't believe you can start him week 1. I feel Shedeur will get the 1st reps with the 1's on Saturday. Then Watson might get SOME reps. This is all provided Shedeur doesn't fall apart during this full week of practice. But from this perch, Sanders is your QB1 right now (barring a minor miracle)

@tiamat63 said:

If I hadn't watched the game, I would have known how bad Watson was going to be just based off of his 2nd throw. My god... this is awful.

The idea that Watson is going to start tells me three things:

1. Sanders is either a few seasons from being a legit starting QB, or...

2. Sanders will never be a legit starting QB

3. Todd Monken has zero chance of succeeding if he thinks Watson should start

@flugel said:

If we're paying attention to the sequel since 99 - quality tanking takes practice before it becomes a well perfected art. There's a lot of newbies this year that gotta learn this.

As we speak, the current home stadium for the Browns hasn't hosted 1 playoff win by the Browns. It's getting too conceivable for comfort that it could go all 30 years without a Cleveland Browns' post season win there before they move to the new stadium being built mostly under-ground. I'm sure a lot of smart ass fans of division rivals can't wait to bust our chops with "Get this, the Browns are building a new stadium that will be easier than ever to bury when they perfect their "Sophisticated Tanking" again.."

The current stadium not only hasn't seen a Browns playoff victory, it hasn't seen a Browns playoff game.

2002 the Browns went to Pittsburgh and lost.

2020 the Browns went to Pittsburgh and won, then went to Kansas City and lost.

2023 the Browns went to Houston and lost.

That's it.

@texasag1969 said:

Tanking season doesn't start for two weeks.?

If we're paying attention to the sequel since 99 - quality tanking takes practice before it becomes a well perfected art. There's a lot of newbies this year that gotta learn this.

As we speak, the current home stadium for the Browns hasn't hosted 1 playoff win by the Browns. It's getting too conceivable for comfort that it could go all 30 years without a Cleveland Browns' post season win there before they move to the new stadium being built mostly under-ground. I'm sure a lot of smart ass fans of division rivals can't wait to bust our chops with "Get this, the Browns are building a new stadium that will be easier than ever to bury when they perfect their "Sophisticated Tanking" again.."

@browns149 said:

Sophisticated Tanking.

Tanking season doesn't start for two weeks.?

@syd said:

OMG Fire him now

Sophisticated Tanking.

@texasag1969 said:

I don't know why the Browns play calling was trying to just run out the clock the last Sanders possession before the half. Totally backfired. Just f'n let him go for it, not just run the damn ball allowing them to preserve enough time to score on the Browns. Very disappointed in that series before half. Took the wind totally out of the team's sails. Let the kid try to do the 2 minute drill, not the two minute milktoast.

OMG Fire him now