@shepwrite said:

(Whereas the Chargers or Jaguars will be in the City of Industry in 2011.)

But, I will make this deal with you, LA boy (of course that could be a reference to you as Lower Akron boy), I will allow The Clippers or the Kings to win a title in my lifetime.....don't say I never did anything nice for you.

@shepwrite said:

(Whereas the Chargers or Jaguars will be in the City of Industry in 2011.)

If everyone of those teams you mentione pull a Chicago Cubs and don't win a title for the next 100 years, I wouldn't shed a tear.....but then I will probably be dead in 100 years. OK, so, we'll just limit it to my short life expectancy span.

@hoorta said:

The problem in baseball is that the few big market owners, and the Players Association control everything...and they WANT the likes of the Yankees and Red Sox to have unfettered spending power.

The "problem" however is that baseball has in fact been the one sport that the results have turned out to be more egalitarian. Since 1970 (roughly the beginning of divisional play and free agency) more different teams have won a World Series in Baseball than have won titles in the other major sports:

Baseball has had 19 different teams win titles since 1970. (Orioles, Pirates, As, Reds, Yanks, Phillies, Dodgers, Cards, Tigers, Royals, Mets, Twins, Blue Jays, Braves, Marlins, Diamondbacks, Angels, Red Sox, White Sox) That is 63% of the existing teams.

Football (NFL) has had only 15 different title winners since 1970: Colts, Cowboys, Dolphins, Steelers, Raiders, 49ers, Redskins, Bears, Giants, Packers, Broncos, Rams, Ravens, Patriots, Buccaneers. That is only 46.8% of the existing teams.

Basketball (NBA only) has had only 14 different title winners since 1970: Knicks, Bucks, Lakers, Celtics, Warriors, Sonics, Bullets/Wizards, Blazers, 76ers, Pistons, Bulls, Rockets, Spurs, Heat. That is only 45% of the existing franchises.

(this could be higher if you include ABA titles won by the Pacers and Nets)

Hockey has had only 15 Stanley Cup winners since 1970: Bruins, Canadiennes, Flyers, Islanders, Oilers, Flames, Penguins, Rangers, Avalanche, Red Wings, Stars, Devils, Lightning, Hurricanes, Ducks. That is 50% of the existing franchises.

The big market baseball teams and MLBPA always cite these facts for why there should be no salary cap. Of course they ignore the fact that the Yankees can buy up the best players and have a 200+ million dollar payroll where the Royals and Pirates, etc. can barely put together a 30 million dollar payroll.

Paul Byrd - Boston

Victor Martinez - Boston

Mark Derosa - St Louis

Cliff Lee - Philly

Ben Francisco - Philly

CC Sabathia - New York

Carl Pavano - Minnesota

Rafael Betancourt - Colorado

Ronnie Belliard - Los Angeles

Casey Blake - Los Angeles

Jim Thome - Los Angeles

Manny Ramirez - Los Angeles

Did I miss anyone? That's 12!

TheJokersWILD said:

Oh, you nailed it why baseball sucks. Until there's revenue sharing, the Indians and KC are just farm teams for the Yankees, Red Socks, and Dodgers.

thanks.