Lay off the red bulls. They make you fly.

@nebbrownsfan said:

We gave up 3 points. And Buffalo is pretty good running the ball. I think they were ranked 12th or something like that. Pretty good for being a bad team.

And I thought last week we did a pretty good job against a now 4-1 team. We are getting better that is for sure. Remember the Ravens game? My goodness.

So agree to disagree it is.

@car-ramrod said:

How can you say that when the defense gave up almost 150 rush yards to a team that has no offensive line? Doesn't matter though, we'll agree to disagree.....or disagree to disagree, whatever way...lol

@nebbrownsfan said:

Yep, sure will there big guy. But seriousy if you didnt understand it the first time I will tell you again. WE did not play like shit. OUR offense played like shit. 2 out of the 3 units played lights out.

@car-ramrod said:

Oh and the team DIDN'T play like shit. The offense played like shit. Get it straight.

Sure thing dude. Keep dreamin'.

@nebbrownsfan said:

Nope I will stay in my dream world and I bet it is much better than you and Masters very dark and dull world.

Oh and the team DIDN'T play like shit. The offense played like shit. Get it straight.

@greythan said:

Winning cures all. Winning lucky, winning ugly, whatever. Winning works wonders for athletes' confidence. Its an elusive thing and Pittsburg better be ready!

Greythan, Buffalo won a game before facing us. It doesn't seem that winning cured anything for them.

Masters is done drinking the Kool-Aid. Stop trying to find positives in a shit performance against a shit team and recognize that the team as a whole is not getting better and there are a lot of losses coming our way if we have to rely on opponents 'out-sucking us' to win football games.

I'm done with the Kool-Aid. Prove to me you are getting better. Win games. No excuses.

@car-ramrod said:

Now go in your corner and be negative all by yourself.

LOL....unlike you, I am concerned with how the team plays, win or lose. Yes, getting the win was nice. But the team played like shit, and NO SPIN you put on it will change that fact. Come out of your dream world where ONE win makes it all better. There are 15 other games that count too.

@nebbrownsfan said:

Did WE win??????????? Thats what I thought there.

Now go in your corner and be negative all by yourself.

@car-ramrod said:

And the team is getting better

A.) because we won instead of lost (and please save the Bills are worse then us BS, they should have beat the Patriots Game 1 this year and are a NFL football team and was favored to beat us)

B.) The D has really stepped up the past two weeks. That is by far BETTER than the first 3 games of the season. Is that not progress? We held a team to 3 points....... That is improving in my mind.

C.) The running game is BETTER

D.)special teams gets BETTER every week it seems like.

Change that to "they were given the game YESTERDAY" and it will be more accurate. Buffalo did more to lose that game than Cleveland did to win it.

Zombo said:

In the last two games, we have played nine quarters and the defense has only surrendered one touchdown.

Yesterday we had a pass rush, we had a lot of gang tackling and tackles administered at the point of attack, we had a very sticky pass defense, and we only surrendered a field goal.

Throw in the great special teams play and two different backs running for 100 yards for us in two weeks ... if he can get the passing game going we're going to b a pretty good team.

Zombo

We have also seen that same thing from the previous D under RAC. BUF O is as terrible as the Browns. You'll have to forgive my lack of excitement over keeping BUF statistically to what they have pretty much done the last 2 weeks, except for the rushing yards allowed. You will not beat a quality team by giving up that much on the ground.

Yesterday CLE had a pass rush against a team who has OL troubles of past Browns team propotions. Look at what BUF O has done the last two weeks. Let's not fool ourselves on thsi.

ST play was great for CLE. Of course that is nothing new this year or from past years.

Running all over a team that gave up 250 yards on the ground the previous week, is missing all of their starting LBs, and their starting saftey is not something I'd hang my hat on.

@car-ramrod said:

I was looking for the hell yeah we won threads but all I see is a bunch of negative people posting negative shit.

Getting a little tired of the "Where's the whoop whoop for the win you lousy Browns' fans?" I think it's safe to say the ALL browns' fans are thrilled the Browns won. But to get all excited about it isn't justified.. Horrible game from both sides. Whoop Whoop

@pl4tinum said:

In case you didn't notice, we just won 6-3 over possibly the worst team in our conference other than ourselves, and set a new futility record for passing in an NFL game.

What fvcking planet are you from?

@car-ramrod said:

I was looking for the hell yeah we won threads but all I see is a bunch of negative people posting negative shit.

Did you not just read the article in the OP? Dude, we're talking about an article bashing the game. If you don't want to hear comments about it, don't read the article, and get the fvck out of this thread.

In case you didn't notice, we just won 6-3 over possibly the worst team in our conference other than ourselves, and set a new futility record for passing in an NFL game.

What fvcking planet are you from?

Masters said:

Well in case you didnt notice we won YESTERDAY.

And the team is getting better

A.) because we won instead of lost (and please save the Bills are worse then us BS, they should have beat the Patriots Game 1 this year and are a NFL football team and was favored to beat us)

B.) The D has really stepped up the past two weeks. That is by far BETTER than the first 3 games of the season. Is that not progress? We held a team to 3 points....... That is improving in my mind.

C.) The running game is BETTER

D.)special teams gets BETTER every week it seems like.

Winning cures all. Winning lucky, winning ugly, whatever. Winning works wonders for athletes' confidence. Its an elusive thing and Pittsburg better be ready!

@car-ramrod said:

Then show me a Browns team that went out and won a game, or a team that looks to be getting better. Neither have occured yet from what I have seen.

If the defense was better, it would lead to a better team, but it is what it is.

Masters said:

I don't want CLE to lose and I hate having to bitch about the Browns. My track record over the years has been to try and find as many positives as possible from every game (and I did say a win was a positive). I just don't see that as a huge positive as far as the team goes, based on what actually occured on the field.

I just refuse to pretend that game, or last weeks was anything more than they actually were.

Good luck with that. While you are sitting in the corner not having any fun, I will be on the dance floor living it up. Let me know when you want to join. My goal is to make you a postitve person and get you dancing Masters.

@car-ramrod said:

Oh and Dave Zati (damn im not even going to try the rest) is the best pucter in the league. Send him to the pro bowl and give that a guy a raise. Ive never seen a punter win a game before. He won that game.

I don't want CLE to lose and I hate having to bitch about the Browns. My track record over the years has been to try and find as many positives as possible from every game (and I did say a win was a positive). I just don't see that as a huge positive as far as the team goes, based on what actually occured on the field.

I just refuse to pretend that game, or last weeks was anything more than they actually were.

Masters said:

Shit yes there was. One HUGE positive. WE WON THE GAME. Thats a pretty big positive my man. I think that you want us to lose just so you can bitch here everyday about the same shit. Switch it up a little.

Oh and Dave Zati (damn im not even going to try the rest) is the best pucter in the league. Send him to the pro bowl and give that a guy a raise. Ive never seen a punter win a game before. He won that game.

Zombo said:

Zombo

Only if I was impressed by CLE giving up 145 yards on the ground instead of their average coming into the game.