I saw this on the PFT power rankings and thought I would share

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@atenears said:

Same thing with being down, none of this sissy touch a guy while his knee is touching, you should have to physically pin that guy to the ground.

Yes to all that....and the ground SHOULD BE ABLE to cause a fumble. Cradle it, protect it, otherwise, it's a fumble.

Some of this replay crap is like watching figure skating....subjective as hell.

@blowe said:

In other news, I cannot believe the Broncos are 6-0..........

oh no doubt, but i give the NBA some slack cause they are truly pressured to give calls to superstars. But yea I thought the same thing for sure even last night, but just not watching it on sportscenter I realized it was right.

And yea i know right about the broncos. Their defense is legit dirty as hell. I also think despite them being undefeated people don't see them as good, idk why. Kyle Orton is 27-12 as a starter, who knew?

@jrb12711 said:

It's the same thing as that santonio holmes catch last year if you remember. Same rule, and maybe it shouldn't be but it was the correct call.

to the OP: Think about that and realize the refs got it RIGHT on the field. the refs do a great job in the NFL i think, the best refs in all the major sports by far.

I don't remember that last night. I don't remember the ball crossing the goal line, but instead of looking it up I'll take your word for it. I can definitely agree with you that the refs in football are better than any other sport....the NBA officials have to be the worst

In other news, I cannot believe the Broncos are 6-0..........

@blowe said:

no man, im sorry but you're wrong. Stokley had possession of the ball across the plane of the goal line. By rule that is a TD no matter where he lands. The play is ruled over once that occurs, plain and simple. Could you argue that he didn't have complete posession until he hit the ground? Maybe, but it's clear the ball was across the plane when he caught. Look at it again, that part is pretty clear.

It's the same thing as that santonio holmes catch last year if you remember. Same rule, and maybe it shouldn't be but it was the correct call.

to the OP: Think about that and realize the refs got it RIGHT on the field. the refs do a great job in the NFL i think, the best refs in all the major sports by far.

@choco said:

Are you talking about the same play I am? I'm talking about the Monday night game, not the Browns game. The Denver player's knee was down, the ball had not crossed the goal line, and a chargers defender had touched him down. That=no touchdown

@blowe said:

except that if you knew the rule, you'd know that a knee doesn't have to be down for it to be a TD. the ball needs to cross the plane, while both feet are down. thats all......he caught the ball at the line with both feet down....then fell forward out of the end zone.

Same thing with being down, none of this sissy touch a guy while his knee is touching, you should have to physically pin that guy to the ground.

That is how it was in the Jim Brown days ... screw replays, play the freaking game in blood, guts and tears. Not booths, red flags, and replays.

As for the MNF game...you are absolutely correct. There is no way that is a touchdown. The ball was at least a full foot outside of the endzone when the runner's knee was down AND he was touched in the back by the Charger's defender. Utter BS...something stinks in this league

@clevelandfanforlife said:

But how do you explain the officiating before they took instant replay away and allow it to be only used by the challenge flag or in the end of the halfs? They used to use replay alot before that happened and I didn't think the officiating was that lackadaisical then. They did a decent job then but I'm not saying they were perfect or ever will be. Human error is allow sticking around....like those damn gravity traps. But there has to be another reason for their lack of attention or desire to officiate a solid game anymore. There always seems to be calls that are missed these past couple of years. How long before they over turned the field goal last year that hit the main pole of the goal post before they said it was good? There were 2 refs standing there and they didn't know what to do so they called it no good.

Anyone know the credentials you need to be a ref in the NFL? I know it's pretty strict to be an umpire at all levels of play. I had my hand in that for years myself.