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I like this thought & hadn't thought of it as an option before. Maybe Tucker (previously a DB coach) could work with Hall this offseason on his coverage ability and line him up on the opposite side behind Corey and have the same dynamic end, albeit in reverse. Jackson & Bell as the other two LBs?

Willie McGinist is a convered DE too (was a DE at USC). He also played it some in NE when they needed.

Not sure it would work, but hell, ain't like things are working now....lol.

It's all hypathetical anyway.

What I do know is if I was running it, I sure wouldn't play this passive reactionary D they play now.

i think, among my other concerns, is that 3-4 OLB and 4-3 OLB are such different positions. in the 4-3, OLBs have to stop running backs and cover. they don't really rush the passer, which, despite their inability to do so, is what we've drafted our OLBs to do.

wimbley's a converted 4-3 DE. i think hall is, too, for that matter. our only natural linebackers of note are d'qwell, andra davis, leon williams and beau bell, and of those four, i only ever want to see two on the field. moreover, i only want to see bell to find out if he can even play.

a line of willie, corey williams, shaun rogers and shaun smith would likely stuff the run, but they'd never, ever get to the QB. i guess, though, they'd be doing one thing right, which is more than we're doing right now.

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No, Corey Williams. Not Leon. His ass wouldn't see the field either.

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Oh, I don't. I'd sooner do that w/ Williams at one DE and Willie at the other. Wimbley would be over on the bench if I did it.

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But those 4 guys are alwasy in pass rush mode, so to speak.

In Greythan's plan there, those OLB would really play DE in running plans. Results might not differ, but at least for some downs those guys would actually be setting up and attacking at the run, not just the pass.

I was trying to be specific an indicate I'd have Rogers on the left side with Smith as opposed to with Wimbley. Cute comment either way.

My thinking here was that Wimbley's (supposed) athleticism bolstered by McGinnest's solid play against the run might have some degree of dynacism. I don't like Hall as an everydown OLB in a 4-3 as yet. Too much responsibility in space.

Also, by going four linemen it allows Rogers to be even more of a gap shooter as opposed to a space eater and is Williams more natural element.

Same personnel, but might create different results.

he's the one teaching tucker his shitty version of the 3-4. it's his choices as LB coaches that haven't helped wimbley improve at all. i, for one, still think wimbley has the talent. we should get whoever coached dwight freeney into the monster that he is to work with wimbley. i think the two are comparable athletes.

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Don't forget OSUSEV. Wouldn't want him to feel left out

Actually he posted in here, can't knock him this time

Ooops. I missed that.

Good on you OSUSev. I am glad to see you posting elsewhere

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A) Kam forgot how to play football.

Our "coaches" "coached" him to play how he is.

-Use of quotations signifies the terms are used very loosely.

C) He only has one move and watching 5 minutes of tape fully prepares anyone on the opposing team to make him a non-factor.

I'll take C, with B being why that is still the case.

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He was just cut lose to only rush on passing downs, no tape on him, so raw athletics/speed got him by.

A) Kam forgot how to play football.

Our "coaches" "coached" him to play how he is.

-Use of quotations signifies the terms are used very loosely.

C) He only has one move and watching 5 minutes of tape fully prepares anyone on the opposing team to make him a non-factor.

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Romeo is a tool.

When teams bring in 3 receivers, we go nickle...take out the beef along the line and play a 4-3....then teams run.

It isn't the 3-4....switching to a 4-3 won't do anything.....It is Romeo. Until we change that, it is always going to be something with this bunch.

Bingo Peens, and you also are correct about Kam, he sucks at every aspect of the game, especially open field tackling.

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Wimbly totally sucks at every aspect of the game. It ticks me off.

Really....what is the difference between Wimp and David McMillian??

Nothing except the name.

I would say Thompson, but I guess it would be the same point.

Wimbly totally sucks at every aspect of the game. It ticks me off.

Really....what is the difference between Wimp and David McMillian??

Nothing except the name.

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Romeo is a tool.

When teams bring in 3 receivers, we go nickle...take out the beef along the line and play a 4-3....then teams run.

It isn't the 3-4....switching to a 4-3 won't do anything.....It is Romeo. Until we change that, it is always going to be something with this bunch.

You nailed it.

On the line, it isn't even just the beef missing. They seem to always have the DEs trying to come off the edge as rushers, which just makes it so easy to run between the G and T.

Romeo is a tool.

When teams bring in 3 receivers, we go nickle...take out the beef along the line and play a 4-3....then teams run.

It isn't the 3-4....switching to a 4-3 won't do anything.....It is Romeo. Until we change that, it is always going to be something with this bunch.