I'm not talkin grizzleys. Well, maybe mountain lion or black bear....

or maybe, someday, 500 wild boars from down south...

Guy at the store, (young guy, doesn't know his stuff), says

their store gets in a lot of used guns a bit closer to Christmas -

some folks trade them in/sell them because they have kids in the house...

or money is just tight...

So, we're checking around. I have a hunch I'd like to buy from

a private party this wsekend, so if worse comes to worse,

nobody in the gov will be ABLE to know I have it.

One of the guns I researched of my friends'... the company went out of business

in California in 2001. They were suing the gun manufacturers for every crime,

every freak twist of the law, possible, and the manufactures went out of business.

The company is now owned by a Texas company, where the mgf is done.

I may never use it, hopefully never. But, if I ever have to, it's there, that's all,

and just big enough to be effective.

If somebody things that's dumb, well, the game warden came out and we walked out property,

took two hours, great guy, and he said that's why HE carries mace and his gun. You just never know.

Research about your area, and check and see the frequency of black bear in your county or state.

Ya might be surprised.

I figure the .44 would go through several walls....

He had a little .38 special, but it looked like an antique, it was small, like in an old Dick Tracy movie.

I think we'll set on a 9mm.... maybe pick up a used one at the show.

I know at the sporting goods store, your gun isn't registed with the gov at the time of purchase...

but the purchase record stays permanently at the store.

Where the Obama gov could probably order that list turned over...

I have a .50 caliber slingshot, but it isn't very accurate.....

@mr.-t said:

But if you anticpate a fire fight you will need to dump lead through the air with accuracy and the 9mm semi auto will work fine for this task. less recoil quiker time to readjust your aim so you can repeat your fire. most hand gun fights happen within 8 feet so you dont have to be all that accurate like to say being able to shoot a fly's ass out from underneath him from 50 yards with a pistol. if that is your task in hand then get a rifle.

Stay away from 380 you can buy the handgun cheap now but the ammo is expensive and hard to find since Obama came into office.

I have a .357 mag revolver (6 inch barrel). If an intruder even looked at it, he would probably pass out from fear! I also have a 9mm semi auto. And one of my favorites is a 30 cal Winchester. I love that rifle.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091029/ap_on_...a_coyote_attack

I would rarely ever use it, so I wouldn't worry about the cartidges, I would look for them and pick em up, though.

I was too busy over the summer to start my treasure finder hobby with my nice metal detector.

14 acres of woods should provide plenty of searching...especially around where there used to be an

old homestead cabin a hundred years ago...

Maybe I'll go out in the morning. Right now, I have a bunch of peppers in the dehydrator, and I am going to mix and bake

a bunch of stuffed bell peppers and freeze them.

I cooked up a big batch of navy beans, and added some sweet peppers, a semi-hot, chopped onion and a few dashes of

Smokin Joe's Hot Sauce. That's some fine food for freezing, too.

There's a gun show at the Summit County Fairgrounds this weekend. I think we'll go do some research.

But if you anticpate a fire fight you will need to dump lead through the air with accuracy and the 9mm semi auto will work fine for this task. less recoil quiker time to readjust your aim so you can repeat your fire. most hand gun fights happen within 8 feet so you dont have to be all that accurate like to say being able to shoot a fly's ass out from underneath him from 50 yards with a pistol. if that is your task in hand then get a rifle.

Stay away from 380 you can buy the handgun cheap now but the ammo is expensive and hard to find since Obama came into office.

@calfoxwc said:

and it was gone the next day.

9mm. Maybe .38, but 9mm ammo is less expensive.

Sad that this young lady didn't have a gun on her.

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Coyotes kill woman on hike in Canadian park

AP – This undated promotional photo released by LW Communications shows Taylor Mitchell, 19. Two coyotes attacked …

By ROB GILLIES, Associated Press Writer Rob Gillies, Associated Press Writer – 3 mins ago

TORONTO – Two coyotes attacked a promising young musician as she was hiking alone in a national park in eastern

Canada, and authorities said she died Wednesday of her injuries.

The victim was identified as Taylor Mitchell, 19, a singer-songwriter from Toronto who was touring

her new album on the East Coast.

She was hiking solo on a trail in Cape Breton Highlands National Park in Nova Scotia on Tuesday

when the attack occurred. She was airlifted to a Halifax hospital in critical condition and

died Wednesday morning, authorities said.

Coyotes, which also are known as prairie wolves, are found from Central America to the

United States and Canada.

Wildlife biologist Bob Bancroft said coyote attacks are extremely rare because

the animals are usually shy.

Bancroft, a retired biologist with Nova Scotia's Department of Natural Resources,

said it's possible the coyotes thought Mitchell was a deer or other prey.

"It's very unusual and is not likely to be repeated," Bancroft said. "We shouldn't

assume that coyotes are suddenly going to become the big bad wolf."

Royal Canadian Mounted Police spokeswoman Brigdit Leger said other hikers heard

Mitchell's screams for help on Tuesday and called emergency police dispatchers.

Police who were in the area reached the scene quickly and shot one of the animals,

apparently wounding it. But the wounded animal and a companion coyote managed to get away.

Paul Maynard of Emergency Health Services said Mitchell already was in critical condition

when paramedics arrived on the scene and had multiple bite wounds over her entire body.

"She was losing a considerable amount of blood from the wounds," he said.

An official with Parks Canada said they blocked the entrance to the trail where Mitchell

was attacked and were trying to find the animals to determine what prompted such an

unusual attack.

"There's been some reports of aggressive animals, so it's not unknown," said Helene Robichaud,

the park's superintendent. "But we certainly never have had anything so dramatic and tragic."

Mitchell was an up-and-coming folk and country musician who was nominated for a 2009

Canadian Folk Music Award in the Young Performer of the Year category.

"Words can't begin to express the sadness and tragedy of losing such a sweet,

compassionate, vibrant, and phenomenally talented young woman," Lisa Weitz,

Mitchell's manager, said in an e-mail. "She just turned 19 two months ago, and was so excited about the future."

Never heard of Coyotes killing a human. Rarely do they go after fawns. Link? Wolve's don't usually bother people.

and it was gone the next day.

9mm. Maybe .38, but 9mm ammo is less expensive.

Sad that this young lady didn't have a gun on her.

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Coyotes kill woman on hike in Canadian park

AP – This undated promotional photo released by LW Communications shows Taylor Mitchell, 19. Two coyotes attacked …

By ROB GILLIES, Associated Press Writer Rob Gillies, Associated Press Writer – 3 mins ago

TORONTO – Two coyotes attacked a promising young musician as she was hiking alone in a national park in eastern

Canada, and authorities said she died Wednesday of her injuries.

The victim was identified as Taylor Mitchell, 19, a singer-songwriter from Toronto who was touring

her new album on the East Coast.

She was hiking solo on a trail in Cape Breton Highlands National Park in Nova Scotia on Tuesday

when the attack occurred. She was airlifted to a Halifax hospital in critical condition and

died Wednesday morning, authorities said.

Coyotes, which also are known as prairie wolves, are found from Central America to the

United States and Canada.

Wildlife biologist Bob Bancroft said coyote attacks are extremely rare because

the animals are usually shy.

Bancroft, a retired biologist with Nova Scotia's Department of Natural Resources,

said it's possible the coyotes thought Mitchell was a deer or other prey.

"It's very unusual and is not likely to be repeated," Bancroft said. "We shouldn't

assume that coyotes are suddenly going to become the big bad wolf."

Royal Canadian Mounted Police spokeswoman Brigdit Leger said other hikers heard

Mitchell's screams for help on Tuesday and called emergency police dispatchers.

Police who were in the area reached the scene quickly and shot one of the animals,

apparently wounding it. But the wounded animal and a companion coyote managed to get away.

Paul Maynard of Emergency Health Services said Mitchell already was in critical condition

when paramedics arrived on the scene and had multiple bite wounds over her entire body.

"She was losing a considerable amount of blood from the wounds," he said.

An official with Parks Canada said they blocked the entrance to the trail where Mitchell

was attacked and were trying to find the animals to determine what prompted such an

unusual attack.

"There's been some reports of aggressive animals, so it's not unknown," said Helene Robichaud,

the park's superintendent. "But we certainly never have had anything so dramatic and tragic."

Mitchell was an up-and-coming folk and country musician who was nominated for a 2009

Canadian Folk Music Award in the Young Performer of the Year category.

"Words can't begin to express the sadness and tragedy of losing such a sweet,

compassionate, vibrant, and phenomenally talented young woman," Lisa Weitz,

Mitchell's manager, said in an e-mail. "She just turned 19 two months ago, and was so excited about the future."