<![CDATA[Toilet Bowl '09: Browns vs. Lions]]>We all know this is going to be an epic battle between two titans of the NFL. Here are both teams' stats coming into this week (spoiler: we're worse!)

Offense

Detroit Rank 26th Total Yards-2645 YDS/G-293.9 Pass-1717 Rush-928 Points-143 Points/G-15.9

Cleveland Rank 32nd Total Yards-1929 YDS/G-214.3 Pass-1046 Rush-883 Points-78 Points/G-8.7

Defense

Detroit Rank 31st Yards Allowed-3476 YDS/G-386.2 Pass-2445 Rush-1031 Points-264 Points/G-29.3

Cleveland Rank 32nd Yard Allowed-3547 YDS/G-394.1 Pass-2055 Rush-1492 Points-225 Points/G-25.0

]]>https://brownsboard.com/topic/8754/toilet-bowl-09-browns-vs.-lionsRSS for NodeFri, 02 Oct 2026 08:22:21 GMTThu, 19 Nov 2009 17:23:34 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to Toilet Bowl '09: Browns vs. Lions on Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:59:02 GMT]]>I'm actually excited about watching this game. I'm picking Detroit 24-10. But I still think it's a more interesting game than some this week.

Kickoff in a few!

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/139116https://brownsboard.com/post/139116Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:59:02 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Toilet Bowl '09: Browns vs. Lions on Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:00:06 GMT]]>Honestly, I'd rather watch a replay of one of those 1950's championship games between the Browns and Lions. You know, Otto Graham? Bobby Layne? Paul Brown? Dante Lavelli?

Hard to believe these 2 teams played for all the marbles 4 times in the 1950's. 😒

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/138848https://brownsboard.com/post/138848Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:00:06 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Toilet Bowl '09: Browns vs. Lions on Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:10:33 GMT]]>even the Lions are gonna stack the box against us.......

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/138808https://brownsboard.com/post/138808Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:10:33 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Toilet Bowl '09: Browns vs. Lions on Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:32:30 GMT]]>In all honesty, I cannot predict how this game will turn out. They've had a decently tough schedule themselves, outside of Seattle, Washington, and St. Louis. It's not as tough as ours was, but it's not a cupcake-athon, either. They have offensive playmakers, we do not. I think we can have a better defense performance though, if they play like they did last week. The only bright side I see is that this game SHOULD give Quinn a chance to actually drop back without being instantly pressured for once in his career. Hopefully that will give him some confidence.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/138797https://brownsboard.com/post/138797Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:32:30 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Toilet Bowl '09: Browns vs. Lions on Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:26:03 GMT]]>

@dj_illness said:

17-3.

i like the games where we take the opening possesion and march down the field..... for a FG.

so we think, "eh, okay...we might do allright."

and then we do NOTHING offensively the rest of the game.

I've seen more of these games than I care to remember. The offense goes into hibernation until we are down 21-3. I wonder how many times this has happened in the past 3 years?

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/138781https://brownsboard.com/post/138781Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:26:03 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Toilet Bowl '09: Browns vs. Lions on Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:09:31 GMT]]>

@clevelandfanforlife said:

no joke, my defense this week is playing new england this week in fantasy and i picked up the lions. it hurts me to do it but come on, you all know it was a good move.

i've had detroits D as one of two D's for a while. They actually A- don't have HUGE blowouts all the time, and B- manage about 2-3 turnovers a game.

they aren't a terrible play. I also am starting them in one of my leagues (over Colts..playing Ravens).

also, my league figures return yards into team D (i dunno why), which makes Detroit a huge play. they get kicked-off to a lot.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/138771https://brownsboard.com/post/138771Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:09:31 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Toilet Bowl '09: Browns vs. Lions on Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:07:35 GMT]]>

@brownindian said:

I like this game for many reasons. We are testing ourselves versus a weak but promising team. Some things i will be looking out for.

* Can Quinn move the chain forward now that our OL will buy him some time to throw the ball ?

* Can the receivers and/or TE's get separation and catch the ball ?

* Can any of our RB's not named JL get a 100 yard game ?

* Are we going to see successful throws that are beyond 10 yards (not even 20) ?

* Can we score a meaningful touchdown ?

These 7 questions will truly tell us the state of our offense. Did I miss any points ?

didn't harrison have our last 100+ game? we need to be done with JL.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/138769https://brownsboard.com/post/138769Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:07:35 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Toilet Bowl '09: Browns vs. Lions on Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:18:47 GMT]]>

@clevelandfanforlife said:

no joke, my defense this week is playing new england this week in fantasy and i picked up the lions. it hurts me to do it but come on, you all know it was a good move.

OUCH! Can't say I blame you though considering the Browns ability to score this year.

By looking at the stats and playmakers on both teams it seems Detroit has a slight edge but if the Browns D shows up and we don't have any pick - 6's (both big ifs!) against us I can see this ugly game ending in a 0-0 tie.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/138764https://brownsboard.com/post/138764Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:18:47 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Toilet Bowl '09: Browns vs. Lions on Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:16:40 GMT]]>I like this game for many reasons. We are testing ourselves versus a weak but promising team. Some things i will be looking out for.

* Can Quinn move the chain forward now that our OL will buy him some time to throw the ball ?

* Can the receivers and/or TE's get separation and catch the ball ?

* Can any of our RB's not named JL get a 100 yard game ?

* Are we going to see successful throws that are beyond 10 yards (not even 20) ?

* Can we score a meaningful touchdown ?

These 7 questions will truly tell us the state of our offense. Did I miss any points ?

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/138763https://brownsboard.com/post/138763Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:16:40 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Toilet Bowl '09: Browns vs. Lions on Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:58:09 GMT]]>no joke, my defense this week is playing new england this week in fantasy and i picked up the lions. it hurts me to do it but come on, you all know it was a good move.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/138759https://brownsboard.com/post/138759Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:58:09 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Toilet Bowl '09: Browns vs. Lions on Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:39:10 GMT]]>true.

and

"we just saved a bunch of money by not having the #1 draft pick"

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/138754https://brownsboard.com/post/138754Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:39:10 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Toilet Bowl '09: Browns vs. Lions on Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:23:06 GMT]]>Regardless of who wins the game, each team is going to come out of it saying "ehhhh we just beat the Browns/Lions, who cares"

"

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/138747https://brownsboard.com/post/138747Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:23:06 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Toilet Bowl '09: Browns vs. Lions on Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:02:47 GMT]]>Lions 34 Browns 10

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/138727https://brownsboard.com/post/138727Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:02:47 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Toilet Bowl '09: Browns vs. Lions on Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:58:09 GMT]]>but seriously...

i don't know how....but i do think (i'd like to think?) we can beat Det.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/138725https://brownsboard.com/post/138725Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:58:09 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Toilet Bowl '09: Browns vs. Lions on Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:57:39 GMT]]>17-3.

i like the games where we take the opening possesion and march down the field..... for a FG.

so we think, "eh, okay...we might do allright."

and then we do NOTHING offensively the rest of the game.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/138724https://brownsboard.com/post/138724Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:57:39 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Toilet Bowl '09: Browns vs. Lions on Fri, 20 Nov 2009 06:52:53 GMT]]>

@ballpeen said:

I think the Lions will get it up around 30 points...they aren't that bad.

NO way they score 30 on us, we will lose 17-0

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/138707https://brownsboard.com/post/138707Fri, 20 Nov 2009 06:52:53 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Toilet Bowl '09: Browns vs. Lions on Fri, 20 Nov 2009 06:00:53 GMT]]>

@bonedawg said:

Amazing stat. I mean we are going to break all time lows that go back to before passing was introduced into the game of football.

It's modern football history 16 game season. 🙂 I'm too lazy to look up the exact year, and numbers- but the Cincinnati Reds yes, there was an NFL team by that name- set the all time record back in the 1930's. And that's how many points they scored- like 35 or so, that's for the season, not a game.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/138704https://brownsboard.com/post/138704Fri, 20 Nov 2009 06:00:53 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Toilet Bowl '09: Browns vs. Lions on Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:09:45 GMT]]>

@ballpeen said:

I think the Lions will get it up around 30 points...they aren't that bad.

I was giving a little credit to our defense after playing semi-professional ball last monday.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/138622https://brownsboard.com/post/138622Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:09:45 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Toilet Bowl '09: Browns vs. Lions on Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:03:21 GMT]]>I think the Lions will get it up around 30 points...they aren't that bad.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/138618https://brownsboard.com/post/138618Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:03:21 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Toilet Bowl '09: Browns vs. Lions on Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:15:54 GMT]]>Final Score

Lions 3

Browns 2

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/138598https://brownsboard.com/post/138598Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:15:54 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Toilet Bowl '09: Browns vs. Lions on Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:00:42 GMT]]>i already said a week ago the Lions would beat us. We have no single weapon on offense, we traded our two weapons. They have a awesome reciever and a few decent ones to go along with him. The Lions issue is they needed a QB at a bad time. This past draft had no real stand out QB... kind of like the Russel/quinn draft.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/138595https://brownsboard.com/post/138595Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:00:42 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Toilet Bowl '09: Browns vs. Lions on Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:55:13 GMT]]>I hate to say it but I think the lions are going to crush us. Are defense is tough but our offense can't produce anything.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/138594https://brownsboard.com/post/138594Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:55:13 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Toilet Bowl '09: Browns vs. Lions on Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:01:06 GMT]]>We need to win a game or two so we can avoid the pressure of the #1 pick. Something tells me we can't handle the top pick again 😠

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/138532https://brownsboard.com/post/138532Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:01:06 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Toilet Bowl '09: Browns vs. Lions on Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:37:04 GMT]]>

@hoorta said:

I posted this elsewhere, but if we keep up that scoring pace, it will be the lowest in modern football history. It works out to 139 for the year. The record for fewest points in a 16 game season is 143, held by the Indianapolis Colts. Hey, if were going to stink, might as well set a few all-time records on the way. 🙂

Amazing stat. I mean we are going to break all time lows that go back to before passing was introduced into the game of football.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/138524https://brownsboard.com/post/138524Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:37:04 GMT