@atenears said:

No one was whining, I simply posted pretty much that todays game bored me, and didn't keep my interest.

You see, I like football and I am more defensive minded than anything. Seeing rainbow passes that might have drawn rain if not in a dome, come down to a receiver who has to wait on it and still have 5-10 yard cushion on the coverage, makes me yawn.

Getting Spotted 21-points by (arguablly) the worst team in the league, and still losing, doesn't have the words, "Best game we've seen all year" roll off my lips too easily.

I suppose if your a Brady Quinn fan, moreso than a Browns fan, today was a great game. But if your a fan of defense, today wasn't a game at all.

Save the tough guy act, boys. It sounded gay.

Tough????Really

I do not post much as you do with your 98789769876796 posts, but I read everything on the board. The fact is, is you make me sick with comments like my team left 10 years ago...really. If they left then why root for this team......

I do not care what everybody thinks about you, but someone had to say it. You are a fan that the Browns do not want. Your like the guy at the bar who gets tanked, the manager kickes him out and on the way out your telling him how much money you spend at the bar and have a right to stay....Nobody cares,the Browns do not want you as a fan, they wanted you 10 years ago.....

Now...Your defense type guy ok well I to like Defense and our Defense made me sick on Sunday, but I watched every single play and didnt yawn because it was fun game to watch.....

@hoorta said:

Game 1 made me cry. It was terrible, wondering what could have been.

Formerly Stone said:

But, I would hang in there.......If I put myself in you guys position, all it would take to make me shake with excitement is two simple things. Fire Mangini and announce a "czar" to take over football operations!

Even the 4-12 season followed by the 6-10 season would be exciting if I saw the right things being done in the organization!

I'll never be a rabid baseball fan until they introduce revenue sharing the same way the NFL does, and have a relatively hard salary cap. I'm sick of seeing teams like the Pirates, Indians, and Royals being farm clubs for the Yankees and Red Sox. You may not be able to buy a World Series every year, but you sure as hell can buy a competitive team.

Seeing Cliff Lee and CC Sabathia in the World Series was almost as pukeful as watching the Browns get beat by the Lions.

@diehardbrownsfan said:

And will ever play again.

@atenears said:

Damn sure a lot better then we have played before.

@hoorta said:

Actually, I think it was I that refered to him mistakenly as Stanton ... but even funnier when reading about the 5 TD's in the Browns Greatest Game of the Year! LOL

The fearsome Culpepper is.

@dj_illness said:

Fixed, my bad Stanton's the backup right?

@atenears said:

I suppose Stanton is the 5-TD per game QB that someone thought he was too ...

Yeah, both team's defenses sucked big time yesterday. FWIW, on Quinn's two TD bombs, I've never seen wrs get that open twice in one game on fly routes.

Oh, and BTW, on that big gain the Lions got on their first series, it was even worse- the Browns totally forgot to cover the guy- there wasn't a white jersey within 20 yards of him when he caught the ball.

Now seniors Dabol and Mangini, did you forget the axiom "if somethings working, you keep doing it until the other team figures out how to stop it"? The Lions were getting shredded through the air, yet we went to turtle ball in the second quarter, and let the Lions get back in the game. Then when it is time to play turtle ball- third and six with 2:00 left in the game- Lions out of time outs, we let it fly. Hard to tell if Quinn threw a bad pass, or more likely, Massaquoi ran the wrong route.

Based on one game, Stafford looks like he could be the franchise qb the Lions thought they drafted.

To reiterate, all I'm saying is Quinn looked OK when given time to throw, and his receivers were getting open. Based on what I saw yesterday, part of the problem may be our wrs are flat-out not good enough to get open against top secondaries. I'm certainly not saying (yet) Brady's the quarterback of the future here, we can make that decision at the end of the year. Don't you agree it sure would help us if we don't have to use another first round pick on a quarterback next year? Lord knows that defense needs some help.

@atenears said:

You see, I like football and I am more defensive minded than anything. Seeing rainbow passes that might have drawn rain if not in a dome, come down to a receiver who has to wait on it and still have 5-10 yard cushion on the coverage, makes me yawn.

Getting Spotted 21-points by (arguablly) the worst team in the league, and still losing, doesn't have the words, "Best game we've seen all year" roll off my lips too easily.

I suppose if your a Brady Quinn fan, moreso than a Browns fan, today was a great game. But if your a fan of defense, today wasn't a game at all.

Um, so I guess you "enjoyed" 6-3 Buffalo game? The only thing bearable about that game was the Browns won in a game I'm sure both teams would call embarrasing.

Why bring up the snide "Quinn fan" remark unless you want to start another QB thread war? Frankly I don't care if Fidel F'ing Castro is our QB as long as he can avoid the rush long enough to get the ball down field to an open receiver.

I was just happy to see for the first time (oh, OK the 2nd time - Cinci game) the offense actually played well as a team and gave me a reason to try to see the game through any means necessary. Watching this team put zeros or the occasional field goal on the board week after week was getting old. It got to the point where I would pick the Browns to score the least number of points in the pickem league everyweek, it was that pathetic.

@atenears said:

No one was whining, I simply posted pretty much that todays game bored me, and didn't keep my interest.

You see, I like football and I am more defensive minded than anything. Seeing rainbow passes that might have drawn rain if not in a dome, come down to a receiver who has to wait on it and still have 5-10 yard cushion on the coverage, makes me yawn.

Getting Spotted 21-points by (arguablly) the worst team in the league, and still losing, doesn't have the words, "Best game we've seen all year" roll off my lips too easily.

I suppose if your a Brady Quinn fan, moreso than a Browns fan, today was a great game. But if your a fan of defense, today wasn't a game at all.

Save the tough guy act, boys. It sounded gay.

Why am i not surprised to see your true colors in a thread like this. Are you that miserable . Looking forward to more of your positive thoughts.

Medication should be taken 7 days a week, if needed. Not 6.

@bonedawg said:

Boo, hoo. I know your emotional it is that time of the month for you, but come on. We lost it's a game move on and have a good Monday.

@diehardbrownsfan said:

True DieHard. But we did see what he can do if given time, that was evident.

@bonedawg said:

Go whine to your mother, little bitch.

@hoorta said:

Quinn Rag? I thought I was ripping on both teams defense?

I suppose Stanton is the 5-TD per game QB that someone thought he was too ...

@diehardbrownsfan said:

I think we at least learned what Quinn can do under the best of circumstances. He needs to continue developing along with his receivers. He needs his supporting cast to be improved. What Quinn showed, IMO, is that there IS an upside to having him as QB.

@medicineman said:

This was Quinn's best game of his pro career. That being said, lets see how he does against a much better Bengals Defense. I thought we played a lot more agressively on Offense. We even had a fake field goal. The two point conversion that was snapped directly to JL was pretty good. That's something anyway. Our Defense looks like they forgot how to cover people and tackle. This has been a problem since we returned in 1999. Maybe we need some good old fashioned head on tackle drills to remind them? Probably a talent thing. Anyway, I enjoyed the game because at least it was exciting and we lost in traditional Browns fashion, in the last seconds.

@hoorta said:

Dabol and Mangini have got to go- preferably by tomorrow morning- Bo Shembeckler could have done better job coaching, and he's been dead a few years. The guys busted their asses out there, and got torpedoed by lousy play calling.

Save the Quinn rag Stan. BQ put up 4 TDs- that should have been more than enough to beat the Lions. Or you just afraid to admit Quinn might not be that bad if the o-line gives him more than a 1\2 second to throw, and his receivers can actually get separation on a DB?

I will not deny Quinn looked great today. He almost looked like the guy we thought he would be when we drafted him 3 years ago. We will have to wait and see what happens next week before we get high on him again.

@atenears said:

No one was whining, I simply posted pretty much that todays game bored me, and didn't keep my interest.

You see, I like football and I am more defensive minded than anything. Seeing rainbow passes that might have drawn rain if not in a dome, come down to a receiver who has to wait on it and still have 5-10 yard cushion on the coverage, makes me yawn.

Getting Spotted 21-points by (arguablly) the worst team in the league, and still losing, doesn't have the words, "Best game we've seen all year" roll off my lips too easily.

I suppose if your a Brady Quinn fan, moreso than a Browns fan, today was a great game. But if your a fan of defense, today wasn't a game at all.

Save the tough guy act, boys. It sounded gay.

Well Stan, it is getting kind of old to watch this brand of football, and I feel the frustration. I drove 240 miles to watch an entertaining game that the Browns managed to lose twice in yet another new and creative way. Shades of the Bills- Oilers, IIRC. Ranks right up there with the Dwayne Rudd helmet-toss game against KC, and bottlegate.

Dabol and Mangini have got to go- preferably by tomorrow morning- Bo Shembeckler could have done better job coaching, and he's been dead a few years. The guys busted their asses out there, and got torpedoed by lousy play calling.

Save the Quinn rag Stan. BQ put up 4 TDs- that should have been more than enough to beat the Lions. Or you just afraid to admit Quinn might not be that bad if the o-line gives him more than a 1\2 second to throw, and his receivers can actually get separation on a DB?